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What do you believe in?
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jesus is; the rest is commentary.
Is that a question or an accusation?
The negative assumption inherent in your question, that I was not born again, is sort of hurtful.
Try: Did you need to be born again? or, Was being born again a part of that for you? or even, What role did being born again play?
Those are positive or neutral, and thus respectful.
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RobertZ
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Its a question, not an accusation and im sorry if you took it as such. I will ask it differently this time, are you born again or do you believe that you need to be born again in order to enter into Gods kingdom?
Your profile says you became a christian at the age of 9 so I take it you were born again at the age of 9 correct?
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Im not saying anything bro, im just asking a simple yes or no question, You sure do get offended mighty easily over something so simple, I would hate to think how you would handle something really stressful.
Again dude, it was just a question and one now that I deeply regret asking you. Im not gonna make that mistake again, I can assure you of that.
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jesus is; the rest is commentary.
Chill out.
I'm encouraged not to give out more personal info than I feel comfortable giving, and if this line of questioning wasn't leading to some theological point, then I must have misunderstood. I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to sound negative.
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My last post here.
You want to know what I believe in?
See here: "What I (DeaconDean Believe)".
And: "My View of the Bible".
God Bless
Till all are one.
You want to know what I believe in?
See here: "What I (DeaconDean Believe)".
And: "My View of the Bible".
God Bless
Till all are one.
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Yes, you certainly did misunderstand me. Im not playing games and trying to lead you down some path of theological games, I was asking the question because I was simply wanting to know more about your testimony and when you were born again.
There is no need to put up a guard with me as im not out to harm you in some way, im one of the last people around here that you need to worry about when it comes to that.
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If a person was designed to fail, and that person fails, then God succeeded. It would be circular logic to say otherwise, like if I said, "This sentence is false."
If we fail, we fail. If we succeed, we succeed. But God always wins. If we are with God, we have victory. If we're without God, everything is failure.
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jesus is; the rest is commentary.
Your statement contradicts itself right there at the end.
"If we are without God..."
In the world where God is the only one making us do anything, how could any of us possible be "without God."
That is where the circular logic being employed starts showing cracks.
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jesus is; the rest is commentary.
Yeah.
My bad.
Apologies.
Mind explaining why when I perceive myself as being born again was important?
I am interested to know what made that an important enough part of the process for you that you would zero in on it in getting to know my testimony.
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Your statement contradicts itself right there at the end.
"If we are without God..."
In the world where God is the only one making us do anything, how could any of us possible be "without God."
That is where the circular logic being employed starts showing cracks.
There are no contradictions or circular logic in my statement. The unsaved are the people without God. They do not belong to God, they're on the wrong side: the losing side.
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God is good, and He cannot mix Himself with evil. Evil people are used by God in His plan, but He discards them when He's finished with them. The unsaved are like plastic silverware, which is used, then thrown in the trash. But the saved are like fine china, which is kept displayed proudly.
It doesn't matter how evil became evil. Evil is evil, regardless of its origin. You wouldn't say that a black car is any less black because somebody painted it that way.
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