Do you agree that christians should keep the 10 Commandments? (4)

[from scratch]

Brother the condescending nature of your fellowship is unnecessary. Surely i am not the foolish Galatian you take me for. Is it foolish to obey the will of God? You are just confused.

Then why the reliance on a rule list and demand the performance of the flesh?

 

[from scratch]

It seems like you want to have it your way. This aint Burger King.

Your right but its buger king.

 

[Frogster]

What is paul teaching if not Gods will? You mistakenly suggest that posting or learning instruction in obedience to Gods will according to the word is wrong. The instruction in Gods Will that's found in the NT is there for us to learn from. the whole bible in fact is good. We limit God when we limit His word. All you ever talk about is Grace and thats not the whole word of God. And if anyone else suggests any law besides the law of grace you scoff at them. Did Paul teach only Grace? nope

No mixing, teaching is not what you suppose. You just strain at indicatives, to clutch to law righteousness.

6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace.

 

[11822]

Then why the reliance on a rule list and demand the performance of the flesh?

Gods Will is obedience to faith, love and holiness. Thats what Paul teaches and i dont list things, Paul does.

 

[Frogster]

Then why the reliance on a rule list and demand the performance of the flesh?

Perfect reply! The judaized are bewitched.

 

[Frogster]

I think that's a great quesion. I would like to know as well. I've addressed that issue in the past with no response.

don't hole ye ole breath.

 

[Frogster]

The Apostle Paul teaches the Gospel of GRACE, as do all the other Apostles.

Acts 20:24 But I do not account my life of any value nor as precious to myself, if only I may finish my course and the ministry that I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify to the gospel of the grace of God.

 

[11822]

No mixing, teaching is not what you suppose. You just strain at indicatives, to clutch to law righteousness.

6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace.

Im mixing nothing. This thread is about the law which includes laws for faith, love and holiness.

 

[Frogster]

The apostles gave us instruction in faith, love and holiness. We shouldn't ignore one while promoting the other.

did u notice the opposite happend in galatia, once thery got under law? Read 5.

Why did Paul tell tim, after saying to remove the law party, the goal is love. Do you see a pattern my little bro?

5 The aim of our charge is love that issues from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. 6 Certain persons, by swerving from these, have wandered away into vain discussion,


CAST OUT THE BONDWOMAN~

7 desiring to be teachers of the law, without understanding either what they are saying or the things about which they make confident assertions.

 

[Frogster]

Im mixing nothing. This thread is about the law which includes laws for faith, love and holiness.

sorry..but u stand corrected, it u reread the post.

 

[Frogster]

Yes it is the instructions in righteousness, and by love we can follow under the guidance of His Word and His Holy Spirit...

Then why does scripture use Abe, who had no moses, as the example, to the galatians, who had no, or certainly very limited law knowledge, as their example?

How do the just live? The context of faith, would be that of Abe. Scripture uses the faith of Abe, to ward off law life..go figure.


Gal 3:11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.”

 

[11822]

Yes it is the instructions in righteousness, and by love we can follow under the guidance of His Word and His Holy Spirit...

1Jo 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

Jas 3:18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace

1Pe 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

1Jo 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother

 

[11822]

did u notice the opposite happend in galatia, once thery got under law? Read 5.

Why did Paul tell tim, after saying to remove the law party, the goal is love. Do you see a pattern my little bro?

5 The aim of our charge is love that issues from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. 6 Certain persons, by swerving from these, have wandered away into vain discussion,


CAST OUT THE BONDWOMAN~

7 desiring to be teachers of the law, without understanding either what they are saying or the things about which they make confident assertions.

The opposite happened in Galatia because Jews were going behind Paul and teaching circumcision for salvation, they were not teaching faith, love and holiness by the 10 commandments.

 

[11822]

Then why does scripture use Abe, who had no moses, as the example, to the galatians, who had no, or certainly very limited law knowledge, as their example?

How do the just live? The context of faith, would be that of Abe. Scripture uses the faith of Abe, to ward off law life..go figure.


Gal 3:11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.”

Paul uses moses as an example in Hebrews 3 and 1Corinthians 10

 

[sheina]

The opposite happened in Galatia because Jews were going behind Paul and teaching circumcision for salvation, they were not teaching faith, love and holiness by the 10 commandments.

It was not only circumcision for salvation, but the also the law of Moses.

Acts 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

The legalistic Judaizers were ADDING to the Gospel of grace and teaching "another gospel" (Galatians 1:8-9). Paul taught GRACE, the Galatian legalists were teaching "works salvation". The problem was that they WERE teaching the 10 commandments in addition to the other 603 commandments of the law of Moses, plus circumcision. As a result, the Galatian Christians (Gentiles), were trying to be "sanctified"/perfected by the flesh. That was the error....NOT that these Judaizers were failing to teach faith, love, and holiness by the 10 commandments.

 

[11822]

It was not only circumcision for salvation, but the also the law of Moses.

Acts 15:5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.

The legalistic Judaizers were ADDING to the Gospel of grace and teaching "another gospel" (Galatians 1:8-9). Paul taught GRACE, the Galatian legalists were teaching "works salvation". The problem was that they WERE teaching the 10 commandments in addition to the other 603 commandments of the law of Moses, plus circumcision. As a result, the Galatian Christians (Gentiles), were trying to be "sanctified"/perfected by the flesh. That was the error....NOT that these Judaizers were failing to teach faith, love, and holiness by the 10 commandments.

If Paul mentions moses law in Galations he cant be talking about all of moses law because love thy neighbor is in moses law also. Does paul mention the 10 Cs? I only remember circumcision being mentioned.

 

[MamaZ]

If Paul mentions moses law in Galations he cant be talking about all of moses law because love thy neighbor is in moses law also. Does paul mention the 10 Cs? I only remember circumcision being mentioned.

Read the scripture it says right in there what you are saying it is not saying. She had posted it for you to read. The 10 Cs are part of the law of Moses.

 

[Frogster]

The opposite happened in Galatia because Jews were going behind Paul and teaching circumcision for salvation, they were not teaching faith, love and holiness by the 10 commandments.

No, after the law came, trouble came. What are u talking about?!

The 10 work wrath and condemnation read rom 4;15, and 2 cor 3.

Bro! please receive this in all humility. You are a fledgling bible student, and it is getting tiresome to argue with u, you take things out of context, have very little historical oversight, and frankly speaking, know very little.

They pushed law life, had you taken me up on gal 3:3 u might have learned something!

Yet, I admit I like you..oh well..such is forum life..lol

 

[Frogster]

If Paul mentions moses law in Galations he cant be talking about all of moses law because love thy neighbor is in moses law also. Does paul mention the 10 Cs? I only remember circumcision being mentioned.

hoot dangy!

what bound all in sin, ceremonial law?


22 But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

23 Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed


EVERYTHING in the book of the law! That would include the 10..10..10..

10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.”

 

[Frogster]

1Jo 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

Jas 3:18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace

1Pe 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

1Jo 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother

my little brother, you are wuvable....

I admit, i will have to garner patience to help u along. Forgive my outburst, I will continue to help u.

Please do not hesitate to ask others like Studious One or Sheina for help in the learning process.