Issues in Scienceville.

[Nathan Poe]

Quite frankly, I'm not sure.

I'll tell you one thing -- You have impressed me. I was starting to think there were no sincere creationists left.

But the jury's still out -- you talk a good game, but creationists have always been good at that.

So for now, I'll leave you be. I will be praying though

And I will be doing.

and no hard feelings.

Same here.

 

[Inan3]

Habitat for Humanity fact sheet (frequently asked questions)


What is Habitat for Humanity International?

• A nonprofit, ecumenical Christian housing ministry.
• We seek to eliminate poverty housing and homelessness from the world and to make decent shelter a matter of conscience and action.

Compassion International

Compassion International exists as a Christian child advocacy ministry that releases children from spiritual, economic, social and physical poverty and enables them to become responsible, fulfilled Christian adults.
Christian Child Ministry


Secular charities compared to Christian
Secular Charities Compared to Christian | Gather

Salvation Army
The Salvation Army: Home

Charitable giving: conservatives vs. liberals, religious vs. secular



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Matt S. at The Only Republican in San Francisco quotes from a Scientific American column by Michael Shermer of the Skeptics Society to argue that conservatives are more generous than liberals:

Syracuse University professor Arthur C. Brooks argues in Who Really Cares (Basic Books, 2006) that when it comes to charitable giving and volunteering, numerous quantitative measures debunk the myth of "bleeding heart liberals" and "heartless conservatives." Conservatives donate 30 percent more money than liberals (even when controlled for income), give more blood and log more volunteer hours. In general, religious people are more than three times more generous than secularists to all charities, 14 percent more munificent to nonreligious charities and 57 percent more likely than a secularist to help a homeless person. In terms of societal health, charitable givers are 43 percent more likely to say they are "very happy" than nongivers and 25 percent more likely than nongivers to say their health is excellent or very good.
The Lippard Blog: Charitable giving: conservatives vs. liberals, religious vs. secular
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Who Really Cares by Arthur Brooks
We all know we should give to charity, but who really does? In his controversial study of America’s giving habits, Arthur C. Brooks shatters stereotypes about charity in America-including the myth that the political Left is more compassionate than the Right. Brooks, a preeminent public policy expert, spent years researching giving trends in America, and even he was surprised by what he found. In Who Really Cares, he identifies the forces behind American charity: strong families, church attendance, earning one’s own income (as opposed to receiving welfare), and the belief that individuals-not government-offer the best solution to social ills. But beyond just showing us who the givers and non-givers in America really are today, Brooks shows that giving is crucial to our economic prosperity, as well as to our happiness, health, and our ability to govern ourselves as a free people.
Who Really Cares: The Surprising ... - Google Books


Pagans, Christianity and Charity
Pagans, Christianity, and Charity

Research on Christian giving in the UK
http://www.stewardshipforum.org/pdfs/givingresearch.pdf

 

[Inan3]

Christian Food Bank Helps UK's Impoverished
SALISBURY, England - The weak global economy is threatening families across the United Kingdom, with some facing homelessness and hunger.
Recent numbers revealed about 3.7 million children are living in poverty across the country.

Until the Trussell Trust intervened to help the Sandords. The Christian charity, located in Salisbury, England, has mobilized churches across the United Kingdom to set up food banks to help struggling families.

Christian Food Bank Helps UK's Impoverished - World - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com

House of James

Providing long-term foster care to equip children for self-sufficiency through Christ based "Family Homes".
There are so many needs in the world... where do we begin to help? How do we begin to help? These are questions that some of us ask ourselves when we see so much suffering in the world. "House of James Ministries" is one place to start. Many children in Ukraine are in need of your help. At the "House of James" our mission is to provide shelter, food, clothes, education, a warm bed and a message of hope and love through the gospel of God though are family homes.

NorthGate Church - A Relational Christian Community

Chicago Christian Students Raise $2,500 to Help Fight World Hunger
A group of the thirty-five Chicago Christian students who participated in the 30-Hour Famine gather during the all-night event at the high school in Palos Heights.
Chicago Christian Students Raise $2,500 to Help Fight World Hunger — Palos Heights news, photos and events — TribLocal.com

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Habitat for Humanity fact sheet (frequently asked questions)



What is Habitat for Humanity International?

• A nonprofit, ecumenical Christian housing ministry.
• We seek to eliminate poverty housing and homelessness from the world and to make decent shelter a matter of conscience and action.

World Vision

World Vision is a Christian humanitarian organization dedicated to working with children, families and their communities worldwide to reach their full potential by tackling the causes of poverty and injustice.
World Vision provides hope and assistance to approximately 100 million people in nearly 100 countries. In communities around the world, we join with local people to find lasting ways to improve the lives of poor children and families.

Sponsor a Child < Home | World Vision - Child Sponsorship

 

[Hespera]

Christian Food Bank Helps UK's Impoverished
SALISBURY, England - The weak global economy is threatening families across the United Kingdom, with some facing homelessness and hunger.
Recent numbers revealed about 3.7 million children are living in poverty across the country.

Until the Trussell Trust intervened to help the Sandords. The Christian charity, located in Salisbury, England, has mobilized churches across the United Kingdom to set up food banks to help struggling families.

Christian Food Bank Helps UK's Impoverished - World - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com

House of James

Providing long-term foster care to equip children for self-sufficiency through Christ based "Family Homes".
There are so many needs in the world... where do we begin to help? How do we begin to help? These are questions that some of us ask ourselves when we see so much suffering in the world. "House of James Ministries" is one place to start. Many children in Ukraine are in need of your help. At the "House of James" our mission is to provide shelter, food, clothes, education, a warm bed and a message of hope and love through the gospel of God though are family homes.

NorthGate Church - A Relational Christian Community

Chicago Christian Students Raise $2,500 to Help Fight World Hunger
A group of the thirty-five Chicago Christian students who participated in the 30-Hour Famine gather during the all-night event at the high school in Palos Heights.
Chicago Christian Students Raise $2,500 to Help Fight World Hunger — Palos Heights news, photos and events — TribLocal.com

Home >> About Us >> Fact Sheet (FAQs)

Habitat for Humanity fact sheet (frequently asked questions)



What is Habitat for Humanity International?

• A nonprofit, ecumenical Christian housing ministry.
• We seek to eliminate poverty housing and homelessness from the world and to make decent shelter a matter of conscience and action.

World Vision

World Vision is a Christian humanitarian organization dedicated to working with children, families and their communities worldwide to reach their full potential by tackling the causes of poverty and injustice.
World Vision provides hope and assistance to approximately 100 million people in nearly 100 countries. In communities around the world, we join with local people to find lasting ways to improve the lives of poor children and families.

Sponsor a Child < Home | World Vision - Child Sponsorship

Christianity =/= creationism

not the same.

Christianity does a lot of good, or rather, peole who are christians do a lot of good. some dont.

If you want to keep flailing the dead horse here, we can of course put up counter material about the inquisition or something, just, you know, for dramatic contrast..

 

[Nabobalis]

There is a difference between creationists and Christianity.

 

[Hespera]

not to hear some tell it

 

[AV1611VET]

There is a difference between creationists and Christianity.

Yes -- and we usually refer to that difference as a mission field.

 

[Inan3]

There is a difference between creationists and Christianity.

You're right. That is a valid point. Unfortunately there are those who say they are Christians but reject God's creation as He has said it was done. How can one be a follower of Christ and not believe what He said. That's a true anomoly. It's like saying I am a scientist but I reject science.

 

[Inan3]

Yes -- and we usually refer to that difference as a mission field.

LOL LOL LOL Belly laugh!! Thanks!!

 

[Nathan Poe]

Yes -- and we usually refer to that difference as a mission field.

It's a shame that unlike most Christians, most creationists are woefully unprepared to head out into the field for their mission.

 

[Hespera]

You're right. That is a valid point. Unfortunately there are those who say they are Christians but reject God's creation as He has said it was done. How can one be a follower of Christ and not believe what He said. That's a true anomoly. It's like saying I am a scientist but I reject science.

but reject God's creation as He has said it was done

.

reject how someone said he said he did it

Creationists on the other hand reject the word of god, if such it be, as it is written in the very earth itself.


lets see...

someones interpretation of what someone claims god said

or

whats right in front of you


Its like being a theist but saying you believe what a person said but not what god himself did.

 

[AV1611VET]

LOL LOL LOL Belly laugh!! Thanks!!

 

[Nathan Poe]

You're right. That is a valid point. Unfortunately there are those who say they are Christians but reject God's creation as He has said it was done.

Or -- there are Christians who understand that God never said anything -- it was other Christians speaking either about Him or allegedly on His behalf that did the talking.

Alas, some Christians have mistaken the words for the God -- look where it gets them.

How can one be a follower of Christ and not believe what He said. That's a true anomoly. It's like saying I am a scientist but I reject science.

Nothing anomolous about it -- If the Bible is God, then no Christian should ever doubt, question, or even dare to reinterpret whatever It says on Its Holy pages.

If, on the other hand, the Bible is man's record of his relationship with God, there's a lot to discuss.

Since the bulk of Christianity has had quite a bit to discuss for the last 2,000 years, it would seem that they've made their choice.

You're free to disagree, of course -- just as they're free to ignore you.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's a shame that unlike most Christians, most creationists are woefully unprepared to head out into the field for their mission.

Oh, I dunno -- so do pretty-well in the architecture department:

 

[Nathan Poe]

Oh, I dunno -- so do pretty-well in the architecture department:

I'll bet my blessings that they don't rely on God to keep that building from collapsing on itself.

Of course, if they were really creationists, they could've made it out of balsa wood and still have it do exactly what they wanted it to do -- right?

 

[AV1611VET]

I'll bet my blessings that they don't rely on God to keep that building from collapsing on itself.

Of course, if they were really creationists, they could've made it out of balsa wood and still have it do exactly what they wanted it to do -- right?

I'll bet your blessings God didn't tell them to build it, either.

(By the way, you do recognize that building, don't you; and where it's at?)

 

[Split Rock]

It's like saying I am a scientist but I reject science.

That reminded me of most "creation scientists."

 

[Nabobalis]

You're right. That is a valid point. Unfortunately there are those who say they are Christians but reject God's creation as He has said it was done. How can one be a follower of Christ and not believe what He said. That's a true anomoly. It's like saying I am a scientist but I reject science.

Creationists did not do these things, it was non creationist Christians that did those things. SO ultimately I don't see why you posted these lists.

 

[Inan3]

Creationists did not do these things, it was non creationist Christians that did those things. SO ultimately I don't see why you posted these lists.

And WHAT is a non-creationist Christian??

 

[Hespera]

All my inlaws are non creationist christians. they find creationism an embarrassment.

and consider it to be profoundly unchristian.

as well as intellectually bankrupt and dishonest.

but then they are educated thoughtful people.