How many kangaroos on Noah's Ark?

[AV1611VET]

Note how far it is from what is now the middle east to Australia.

The distance is tangential to the solution.

Now the question is, even if a few marsupials and monotremes could make this trip in the relatively short time period between the flood and you alleged continent separation (which actually took place many millions of years ago) why did none of the many species of placental mammals that came off the ark with them make the trip.

Have you seen my thread where I explained all of this?

A pregnant Satyr, dragon, xyzeeiform, or whatever, gets off the Ark and, in a short period of time, goes around and "drops off" (i.e., gives birth) to a 'kind' that eventually becomes these different species of animals you're wondering about.

Sound silly? Good -- we're getting somewhere.

Many placental animals are more mobile than most of the marsupials and monotremes and some are very mobile indeed.

I don't care if they were inchworms, their predecessors could have been deposited 7000 miles from the Ark overnight.

There is no ecological niche occupied by marsupials or monotremes that is not occupied by at least several species of placental mammals.

Okay -- [shrugs].

So how did the marsupials and monotremes just happen to be the ones that ended up in Australia where they have a fossil record?

By divine courier.

Of course rapid continent separation would have exposed enough new sea floor to cook the earth to death many times over but that is another story.

Why, of course! And God overlooked that, right? Just like He had to step in at the last minute and save Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego from a burning, fiery furnace, heated to seven times its thermal capacity?

The calculation showing this are here.

Oh.

Let me give you some advice, Frumious: Give up.

 

[AV1611VET]

Explanations of post-global flood biogeography given by creationists are nonsense to anyone who knows anything about biogegraphy and capable of logical thought on the subject.

Well, then, there's the problem -- they've been educated.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

The distance is tangential to the solution.

Have you seen my thread where I explained all of this?

A pregnant Satyr, dragon, xyzeeiform, or whatever, gets off the Ark and, in a short period of time, goes around and "drops off" (i.e., gives birth) to a 'kind' that eventually becomes these different species of animals you're wondering about.

Sound silly? Good -- we're getting somewhere.

Silly for sure.

I don't care if they were inchworms, their predecessors could have been deposited 7000 miles from the Ark overnight.

Right, maybe the Starship Enterprise was sent back in time to beam them over.

Okay -- [shrugs].

By divine courier.

And you wonder why some people mock your ideas

Why, of course! And God overlooked that, right? Just like He had to step in at the last minute and save Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego from a burning, fiery furnace, heated to seven times its thermal capacity?

Using one myth to try to justify another seems to be a very typical creationist tactic.

 

[AV1611VET]

Using one myth to try to justify another seems to be a very typical creationist tactic.

Perhaps, after you've found that N[sub]2[/sub]O leak, you would care to tell us how God did it, in your own words?

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Perhaps, after you've found that N[sub]2[/sub]O leak, you would care to tell us how God did it, in your own words?

Well about 13 1/2 billion years ago God said "let there be light" and there was light and things followed their natural course since then. As to the natural history of marsupials you can read some of it here. Biogeography in general that is a pretty big topic.

 

[AV1611VET]

Perhaps, after you've found that N[sub]2[/sub]O leak, you would care to tell us how God did it, in your own words?

Well about 13 1/2 billion years ago God said "let there be light" and there was light and things followed their natural course since then. As to the natural history of marsupials you can read some of it here. Biogeography in general that is a pretty big topic.

Let's try this again.

Would you care to tell us how God specifically orchestrated the placement of the animals after the Flood, in accordance with a repopulation program; and did it in such a short period of time as to disallow any natural explanations.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Let's try this again.

Would you care to tell us how God specifically orchestrated the placement of the animals after the Flood, in accordance with a repopulation program; and did it in such a short period of time as to disallow any natural explanations.

Since the flood was a local event God didn't have to do any such thing and natural explanations are fine.

 

[Doveaman]

Since the flood was a local event God didn't have to do any such thing and natural explanations are fine.

I suppose it is possible for a local flood to have drowned all life on the earth/land.

 

[Hespera]

I suppose it is possible for a local flood to have drowned all life on the earth/land.

As possible as anything else in creo land. heck why not also send all the excess water to neptune, sos to have a warning beacon against incoming rogue angels.

 

[Matariki]

Try this map, instead:

Is this a map of before or after the flood?

 

[Matariki]

Do you guys think for the sake of this thread we should go through the account of Noah's ark verse by verse to see if we are missing anything? I think whats going on here is that we could possibly over analyzing the scripture and not taking science into account.

 

[Hespera]

Is this a map of before or after the flood?

psst! there was no flood!

 

[AV1611VET]

Is this a map of before or after the flood?

Before the Flood.

 

[sandwiches]

Fro the real reason the dinosaurs became extinct see attached cartoon.

That's a lie! This is what REALLY happened:

Or this:

 

[Matariki]

psst! there was no flood!

If there were no flood then that means that nothing else in the bible can be taken into consideration, which means that everyone here on the forums is wasting their time with Christianity...

This is a serious matter.

 

[selfinflikted]

If there were no flood then that means that nothing else in the bible can be taken into consideration, which means that everyone here on the forums is wasting their time with Christianity...

You, dear lady, just Said. A. Mouthful.

 

[Nostromo]

If there were no flood then that means that nothing else in the bible can be taken into consideration, which means that everyone here on the forums is wasting their time with Christianity...

This is a serious matter.

I got the weirdest feeling when I read this.

 

[Split Rock]

Assuming kangaroo boarded the Ark, there would have been 14 aboard; and they got to the Ark overland, as the earth at the time was one big continent called Eden (Pangaea).

So, kangaroos are "clean", too?

 

[Matariki]

I got the weirdest feeling when I read this.

Whats weird about it?

 

[Hespera]

If there were no flood then that means that nothing else in the bible can be taken into consideration, which means that everyone here on the forums is wasting their time with Christianity...

This is a serious matter.

Well no, I dont agree with that really. There is all sorts of good wisdom poetry and so forth. A good enough book to read a couple times as I did.

There seem to be plenty of quite devout Christians who can reconcile their faith with a metaphorical flood.

Its up to you if you want to make an either / or of it.

But... there was no flood such as the bible describes. No flood that covered the whole world, and drowned all but those who were on the "ark".

You do understand that if the flood had really happened, there would be abundant signs of it in the geological record, as there is of many lesser local floods.
For the "deulge" tho... zero. Nothing, anywhere.

There would be an unmistakable genetic bottleneck in all living things.
There isnt.

Besides the lack of evidence for a flood, there is a great abundance of indicators that it couldnt have happened.

One simple one is the hundred plus thousand years of ice on the poles.

Another is the one you have been wondering about, how all the animals got from where they were, to the "ark". You know its impossible. So is the dispersal back out to islands like NZ. Your thinking mind knows this, even if its hard to accept emotionally.

There was no flood. For me its easy, I wasnt raised with these beliefs, so I can look and see what is or isnt there with clear eyes. its not there.

There are powerful implications to that fact, yes for sure. But there was no flood.