Creationists, what do the worlds universities know that creationists don't?

[Nostromo]

I've already shown that the property of intelligence is capable of assembling man.

We don't really need reminding of the possibilities. What would be nice is some evidence that an intelligence did assemble man.

(This could be a very long thread.)

What you are unwittedly asking for is data which smothers any room for faith not realizing that you have faith that the Great Pyramid is intelligently designed.

Let's assume that I'm not a complete idiot and that I might have given this a little bit of thought, hmm?

I'm not asking for anything which 'smothers' faith, this may have been apparent in one of my previous posts in response to you, not that you bother to read them.

Anyway, on the subject of the Great Pyramid, do you think God built it?

 

[Greg1234]

We don't really need reminding of the possibilities. What would be nice is some evidence that an intelligence did assemble man.

Actually you ask for evidence for intelligent design. You were shown that the property of intelligence is capable. It is a possibility for you, it is an actuality based on the evidence for me. Even if you were to show that Darwinan evolution is capable, under the conditions, of creating man, people migrate to Darwinian evolution based on the faith that that possibility was an actuality in the past. If I asked you for evidence for Darwinian evolution, then you would go to a lab and show how said process works. In fact that's how all evidence for Darwinian evolution is advanced and countered. If someone denies it, then it is their own choice, which is what I'm saying to you in regards to intelligent design.

(This could be a very long thread.)
Let's assume that I'm not a complete idiot and that I might have given this a little bit of thought, hmm?

I'm not asking for anything which 'smothers' faith, this may have been apparent in one of my previous posts in response to you, not that you bother to read them.

Actually that's precisely what you're asking for.

Anyway, on the subject of the Great Pyramid, do you think God built it?

Intelligent design does not address who the designer is (this could indeed be a very long thread).

 

[MoonLancer]

I've already shown that the property of intelligence is capable of assembling man.

No you havent

 

[wensdee]

You were shown that the property of intelligence is capable.

The only one who needs to be happy with this Greg is you, you seem to be pleased so we're all pleased for you, I am anyway.

 

[AV1611VET]

Why does EVERY university in every country IN THE WORLD teach evolution as a fact? what do they know that the people who are teaching you creationism don't?

Creationists please remember this, if the people teaching you are creationists they only know as much about science and evolution as you do which is nothing, I say that with confidence because I know that if you or they knew ANYTHING about evolution you would not argue against it, the only way anyone would know about evolution and still argue against it would be if they had been indoctrinated in creationism before they were educated.

I believe in limited evolution (microevolution, adaptation) -- not complete evolution (macroevolution).

 

[MoonLancer]

I believe in limited evolution (microevolution, adaptation) -- not complete evolution (macroevolution).

until you actually have evidence of the limitation it should not be considered.

 

[AV1611VET]

until you actually have evidence of the limitation it should not be considered.

Get cracking.

 

[MoonLancer]

Get cracking.

you made the claim. its your job. until you find it there is nothing wrong with evolution.

 

[AV1611VET]

you made the claim. its your job.

I already believe it, so I don't need to look for anything -- you do.

 

[knowledgeIsPower]

I already believe it, so I don't need to look for anything -- you do.

LOL no in that case the rest of the world will just continue to ignore your wacky baseless claims.

 

[AV1611VET]

LOL no in that case the rest of the world will just continue to ignore your wacky baseless claims.

What else is old?

 

[knowledgeIsPower]

What else is old?

Creationists not fully understanding evolution and constantly misrepresenting it in discussions.

 

[AV1611VET]

Creationists not fully understanding evolution and constantly misrepresenting it in discussions.

Big deal -- we don't believe it, so why wouldn't we constantly misrepresent it?

Take me, for instance -- at one time, in my teens, I understood evolution; but then I jettisoned it.

Now, 40 years later, evolution has changed so much, I don't think I could go back and catch up if I had to.

 

[Hespera]

Creationists not fully understanding evolution and constantly misrepresenting it in discussions.

The do it for various reasons.

One is that by saying something ridiculous they can get in sarcasm.

another is it would take work to learn something about it; easier to make things up, or go to creo sites where they have a supply of made up stuff.

another is some of them really believe the odd things they say

another is the need for strawmen; if they restricted themselves to accurate statements about evolution, they'd have nothing to argue against.

old fashioned intellectual dishonesty may well be another.

 

[knowledgeIsPower]

Big deal -- we don't believe it, so why wouldn't we constantly misrepresent it?

because it is dishonest to do so when you have been repetitively informed that that is a misrepresentation and yet you continue with it.

Take me, for instance -- at one time, in my teens, I understood evolution; but then I jettisoned it.

Now, 40 years later, evolution has changed so much, I don't think I could go back and catch up if I had to.

It is easy to catch up. Evolution is a remarkably simply concept. If you put in a few hours of effort you could easily come to understand the key concepts.

Not doing so and then spewing misrepresentations about evolution when you're told over and over that they are misrepresentations is basically lying. Admitting that you don't know is the only honest approach and is far more constructive.

 

[AV1611VET]

because it is dishonest to do so when you have been repetitively informed that that is a misrepresentation and yet you continue with it.

You got room to talk, champ.

When you guys even try to understand Genesis 1, my profile, and/or dispensation theology, I'll [vaguely] consider trying to understand macroevolution.

 

[knowledgeIsPower]

You got room to talk, champ.

When you guys even try to understand Genesis 1, my profile, and/or dispensation theology, I'll [vaguely] consider trying to understand macroevolution.

Hey hey hey don't group me in with others AGAIN. Don't judge me based on the actions of others AGAIN.

Seriously man I'm getting tired of you using that "you guys" term all the time. Why do you insist on treating everyone that doesn't agree with you as one collective group that all behave identically? It is a really stupid way to behave.

 

[Hespera]

Hey hey hey don't group me in with others AGAIN. Don't judge me based on the actions of others AGAIN.

Seriously man I'm getting tired of you using that "you guys" term all the time. Why do you insist on treating everyone that doesn't agree with you as one collective group that all behave identically? It is a really stupid way to behave.

it is stereotyping and bigotry thats why

 

[AV1611VET]

Hey hey hey don't group me in with others AGAIN. Don't judge me based on the actions of others AGAIN.

Seriously man I'm getting tired of you using that "you guys" term all the time. Why do you insist on treating everyone that doesn't agree with you as one collective group that all behave identically? It is a really stupid way to behave.

You must tire easily then.

I use the term "you guys" because I can't remember exactly who says what.

And for you to get tired of me, and not your 'unrelated siblings' here, shows selectivity.

 

[AV1611VET]

it is stereotyping and bigotry thats why

You would know -- what with you and your "parkers" remark.

One of your buddies even wants us on our own island and nation -- does that bother you?