What would happen if same-sex marriage were legalised?

[Panzerkamfwagen]

Yep, and it ended up with California sinking to the bottom of the ocean where the populace was eaten by shark-men.

What do you expect? Their biggest cash crop is weed.

 

[KarateCowboy]

The good news is that this is so very hypothetical. The Human Genome Project has looked at stuff like this and found there is more biological oomph behind schizophrenia than same-sex attraction. According to Dr. Francis Collins, head of the project, if any given homosexual male had an identical twin, the odds that the twin would not be homosexual are about 80%. The decision to remove SSA from the DSM some decades ago was largely political and done with very little science and research involved. Recently the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists rejected a proposal to ban reorientation therapy as unethical. As more and more research is done on the diminishing of unwanted SSA, more and more progress is being made in the understanding of its causes and what treatments are most effective. Mainstream therapy is waking up to the reality that orientation is changeable, and, as former APA president Dr. Robert Perloff said "politics has trumped science". I expect that over the next ten years pass you'll gradually see the disappearance of parades in the name of a certain cardinal sin, as people realize they have been championing the poison and demonizing the remedy

 

[Archaeopteryx]

The decision to remove SSA from the DSM some decades ago was largely political and done with very little science and research involved.

It was removed because there was nothing pathological about it.

Recently the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists rejected a proposal to ban reorientation therapy as unethical. As more and more research is done on the diminishing of unwanted SSA, more and more progress is being made in the understanding of its causes and what treatments are most effective. Mainstream therapy is waking up to the reality that orientation is changeable, and, as former APA president Dr. Robert Perloff said "politics has trumped science". I expect that over the next ten years pass you'll gradually see the disappearance of parades in the name of a certain cardinal sin, as people realize they have been championing the poison and demonizing the remedy

Even if orientation is malleable, so what? Doesn't make it pathological. Doesn't mean that it requires treatment. Doesn't make it a viable candidate for 'therapy' or re-entry into the DSM.
Left-handedness is also statistically abnormal. I'm sure with enough 'therapy', we could make everyone right-handed. Doesn't mean we should.

 

[mpok1519]

im sure many people would see it as a stepping stone in civility, a marker in history for civil rights; others would see it as abominable, and go crazy, do crazy things and say crazy things amidst it all.

Both of these things would happen.

 

[mpok1519]

The good news is that this is so very hypothetical. The Human Genome Project has looked at stuff like this and found there is more biological oomph behind schizophrenia than same-sex attraction. According to Dr. Francis Collins, head of the project, if any given homosexual male had an identical twin, the odds that the twin would not be homosexual are about 80%. The decision to remove SSA from the DSM some decades ago was largely political and done with very little science and research involved. Recently the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists rejected a proposal to ban reorientation therapy as unethical. As more and more research is done on the diminishing of unwanted SSA, more and more progress is being made in the understanding of its causes and what treatments are most effective. Mainstream therapy is waking up to the reality that orientation is changeable, and, as former APA president Dr. Robert Perloff said "politics has trumped science". I expect that over the next ten years pass you'll gradually see the disappearance of parades in the name of a certain cardinal sin, as people realize they have been championing the poison and demonizing the remedy

you really think about homosexuality alot dontchya?

 

[Umaro]

More of a break down Of the ideal family..... Which is more of a moral accelerated break down on a structured society.

Isn't that the free market you always tout though? Sure, our movies are getting more and more sex and violence, but thats what the free market wants, doesn't that make it right? You can't have it both ways.

"Population Growth" would become a thing of the past.
Abortions would decrease.
Planned Parenthood could finally change their name to Planned Promiscuity.
The ideal "masculine man" would speak with a lisp, sport limp wrists, wear sleeveless Ts and leather short shorts.
The ideal "feminine woman" would sport crew-cuts, plaid shirts, and a pear-shaped body.
The Super Bowl would move to large urban airport restrooms.
The Sports Illustrated Swim Suit edition would feature two Teds, one Billy, and an angry Bertha.
The "battle of the sexes" would become a "battle for sex."
More men holding men's hands in public; more men kissing men in public.
More women kissing women in public.
"Tolerance" will continue to spread.
Perversion will continue to increase.
Men with men committing indecent acts will continue to increase.
Women exchanging the natural function for the unnatural will increase.
Men and women will increasingly see it less fit to acknowledge God.
Depravity will continue to increase.
Hatred of God will continue to rise.
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And opponents will be labeled bigots by those more "tolerant" than they.

What's preventing that from happening now? It's not like homosexuals don't have relationships without being able to get married now.

The good news is that this is so very hypothetical. The Human Genome Project has looked at stuff like this and found there is more biological oomph behind schizophrenia than same-sex attraction. According to Dr. Francis Collins, head of the project, if any given homosexual male had an identical twin, the odds that the twin would not be homosexual are about 80%. The decision to remove SSA from the DSM some decades ago was largely political and done with very little science and research involved. Recently the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists rejected a proposal to ban reorientation therapy as unethical. As more and more research is done on the diminishing of unwanted SSA, more and more progress is being made in the understanding of its causes and what treatments are most effective. Mainstream therapy is waking up to the reality that orientation is changeable, and, as former APA president Dr. Robert Perloff said "politics has trumped science". I expect that over the next ten years pass you'll gradually see the disappearance of parades in the name of a certain cardinal sin, as people realize they have been championing the poison and demonizing the remedy

So then in theory with the right treatment you could become gay as well, right?

 

[kiwimac]

None of the above!

 

[Wiccan_Child]

The good news is that this is so very hypothetical.

Not really. Same-sex marriage occur in ten developed countries and seven US states, and 'as good as marriage' civil unions occur in 19 countries and a variety of US, Australian, Mexican, and Venezuelan states. It's by no means hypothetical.

The Human Genome Project has looked at stuff like this and found there is more biological oomph behind schizophrenia than same-sex attraction.

Source?

According to Dr. Francis Collins, head of the project, if any given homosexual male had an identical twin, the odds that the twin would not be homosexual are about 80%.

This would imply an incidence ten times more than in background populations, pointing to a biological or environmental cause, no more a concious 'choice' than one's accent. As he himself stated:

"The evidence we have at present strongly supports the proposition that there are hereditary factors in male homosexuality — the observation that an identical twin of a male homosexual has approximately a 20% likelihood of also being gay points to this conclusion, since that is 10 times the population incidence. But the fact that the answer is not 100% also suggests that other factors besides DNA must be involved. That certainly doesn’t imply, however, that those other undefined factors are inherently alterable."

The decision to remove SSA from the DSM some decades ago was largely political and done with very little science and research involved.

Source? Does this fact prove that homosexuality is a psychological disorder?

Recently the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists rejected a proposal to ban reorientation therapy as unethical.

Naturally - they have the explicit aim of doing so. Talk about bias.

As more and more research is done on the diminishing of unwanted SSA, more and more progress is being made in the understanding of its causes and what treatments are most effective. Mainstream therapy is waking up to the reality that orientation is changeable, and, as former APA president Dr. Robert Perloff said "politics has trumped science". I expect that over the next ten years pass you'll gradually see the disappearance of parades in the name of a certain cardinal sin, as people realize they have been championing the poison and demonizing the remedy

And the moral zeigeist will march onwards towards equality, regardless of certain people's bаstardisation of established science.

 

[jayem]

Wasn't something like that already tried in California??.......

It already exists in Vermont, Mass., and Connecticut. And it exists in Canada, and Spain, and Belgium, and several other European countries--for years in some. (Denmark has recognized same sex unions for > 10 years.) If the social fabric in any of these places has been destroyed, I'm not aware of it.

 

[hollyda]

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

 

[hollyda]

What's preventing that from happening now? It's not like homosexuals don't have relationships without being able to get married now.

Shhh. Apparently, this is a well-kept secret. Don't ruin the delusion.

 

[Umaro]

If the social fabric in any of these places has been destroyed, I'm not aware of it.

I'm still surprised anyone could think homosexuals would do anything that would harm fabric.

 

[DaisyDay]

Source?

The Human Genome Project Information website linked to this paper (which is a summary of other papers) for a discussion of the heritability of homosexuality, but Francis Collins is not a contributor nor an editor.

 

[hollyda]

I'm still surprised anyone could think homosexuals would do anything that would harm fabric.

Ba dum dum cha

 

[Tim Myers]

"If the social fabric in any of these places has been destroyed, I'm not aware of it"

Anybody have statistics on what the "Christian fabric" is in any of those places?

 

[allhart]

...and all that has what to do with gay marriage?
tulc(seriously)

Seriously..... The foundation of society.......structure not chaos. Five generations from now they won't know what a family looks like.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Seriously..... The foundation of society.......structure not chaos. Five generations from now they won't know what a family looks like.

"In human context, a family (from Latin: familiare) is a group of people affiliated by consanguinity, affinity, or co-residence. In most societies it is the principal institution for the socialization of children."

So, what does a "family" look like?

 

[sea oat]

I cannot say what would happen in other countries. In the US, though, I doubt things would change drastically. Except for the number of divorces.

 

[BondiHarry]

What would happen?

The real point of gay marriage would come out which is forcing those who disagree with such unions to recognize them or face legal sanctions. It would take advantage of the Supreme Court's flawed ruling that people have a 'right' not to be discriminated against (even though that can't be found anywhere in the Constitution) and this 'right' takes precedence over property rights (which can be found in the Constitution) so for if example a Christian couple owned a bed and breakfast and refused to cater to homosexual couples they could be sued for discrimination. It would make preaching God's word 'hate speech' when homosexuality is identified as an abomination to God ... and of course it would be one more affront to God.

Gays right now can have a ceremony, exchange vows and rings, declare themselves 'married' and to hell with what anyone else thinks about it. That they are not content with this just shows there is an agenda beyond the right to 'marry'.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Gays right now can have a ceremony, exchange vows and rings, declare themselves 'married' and to hell with what anyone else thinks about it. That they are not content with this just shows there is an agenda beyond the right to 'marry'.

being "married" carries with a whole bunch of legal and social benefits -- most of which are conferred by our own government.