Why Sola Scriptura isn't God's plan

[Hentenza]

How is it a poor argument? That is all Protestantism is, really: a replacement of the Magisterium of the RCC with ourselves who are "led into all truth by the Holy Spirit", I believe the line was.

Really? We don't have churches with people that have the gift of teaching? The magisterium teaches their private interpretation anyway.

 

[Hentenza]

"All Protestants are Crypto-Papists, to use the concise language of algebra, all the West knows but one datum a; whether it is preceded by the positive sign + as with the Romanists, or with the negative sign -, as with the Protestants, the a remains the same. Now a passage to Orthodoxy seems indeed like an apostasy from the past, from its science, creed, and life. It is rushing unto a new and unknown world." --Alexis Khomiakov

Well, if Alexis said it then it MUST be true.

 

[laconicstudent]

Really? We don't have churches with people that have the gift of teaching?

Not that I've noticed. With all of their Scripture Alone, I am free to disregard everything said from the pulpit if I decide it violates my interpretation of scripture.

The magisterium teaches their private interpretation anyway.

If you are willing to redefine the word "private", anyways.

 

[Hentenza]

Not that I've noticed. With all of their Scripture Alone, I am free to disregard everything said from the pulpit if I decide it violates my interpretation of scripture.

I'm free to disregard all that teaching from unbiblical "T"radition also so I guess you think that we don't have worthy teachers and I think that your church doesn't have worthy teachers. You think our churches teach incorrect doctrine and I think that your church teaches incorrect doctrine. There, Now we know were each stands.

If you are willing to redefine the word "private", anyways.

Nope. Its private. The RC would never disagree with itself nor will the EO ever disagree with itself. Its all private interpretation anyway.

 

[ivebeenshown]

Its all private interpretation anyway.

It's not 'private interpretation' when, as the apostles and the elders said (recorded in Acts 15), 'it seems good to us and the Holy Spirit.'

 

[Hentenza]

It's not 'private interpretation' when, as the apostles and the elders said (recorded in Acts 15), 'it seems good to us and the Holy Spirit.'

Your denomination is not listed in Acts 15. The magisterium is a product of your denomination and their interpretation of scripture is their private interpretation because it is not shared by other denominations.

 

[ivebeenshown]

Your denomination is not listed in Acts 15.

There were no denominations at the time to be listed.

The magisterium is a product of your denomination.

Is not. Neener neener.

their interpretation of scripture is their private interpretation
because it is not shared by other denominations.

If you define 'private interpretation' as 'not shared by others', then the true interpretation is a private one as it is not shared by those who hold to the false.

 

[laconicstudent]

I'm free to disregard all that teaching from unbiblical "T"radition also so I guess you think that we don't have worthy teachers and I think that your church doesn't have worthy teachers. You think our churches teach incorrect doctrine and I think that your church teaches incorrect doctrine. There, Now we know were each stands.

I'm glad you agree with me.

Nope. Its private. The RC would never disagree with itself nor will the EO ever disagree with itself. Its all private interpretation anyway.

I'm pretty sure that's not what the word "private" means, but whatever.

 

[Hentenza]

There were no denominations at the time to be listed.

Right. There were only independent churches ruled by a plurality of elders.

Is not. Neener neener.

It is. The magisterium is the RC's baby.

If you define 'private interpretation' as 'not shared by others', then the true interpretation is a private one as it is not shared by those who hold to the false.

Does not follow. And yes, my private interpretation is the true interpretation.

 

[Hentenza]

I'm pretty sure that's not what the word "private" means, but whatever.

So what does the word "private" mean?

 

[ivebeenshown]

Right. There were only independent churches ruled by a plurality of elders.

The churches were dependent on the Holy Spirit at the very least. "Apostles and elders" convened to make authoritative decisions with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, as evidenced in Acts 15.

 

[Hentenza]

The churches were dependent on the Holy Spirit at the very least. "Apostles and elders" convened to make authoritative decisions with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, as evidenced in Acts 15.

All believers are dependent on the Holy Spirit.

 

[ivebeenshown]

All believers are dependent on the Holy Spirit.

All humans are dependent on the Holy Spirit for their existence, whether they know it or not.

 

[Hentenza]

All humans are dependent on the Holy Spirit for their existence, whether they know it or not.

Yep. WOot, we agree on something!!!!!!!!

 

[ivebeenshown]

Yep. WOot, we agree on something!!!!!!!!

I do hope we can always agree on the Lord.

 

[Ortho_Cat]

"All Protestants are Crypto-Papists, to use the concise language of algebra, all the West knows but one datum a; whether it is preceded by the positive sign + as with the Romanists, or with the negative sign -, as with the Protestants, the a remains the same. Now a passage to Orthodoxy seems indeed like an apostasy from the past, from its science, creed, and life. It is rushing unto a new and unknown world." --Alexis Khomiakov

very interesting passage, thanks for that, A. Khomiakov sounds like a mathematician here

 

[Hentenza]

I do hope we can always agree on the Lord.

Second thing we agree on. We are on a roll.

 

[Montalban]

So what does the word "private" mean?

Show me from the Bible what it means

 

[Montalban]

Second thing we agree on. We are on a roll.

One is not a roll

 

[laconicstudent]

very interesting passage, thanks for that, A. Khomiakov sounds like a mathematician here

A poet, apparently.

Aleksey Khomyakov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia