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No, not slaves, love... love, she does it out of looooove for him and God.

How you like that- she is a slave for the man becuase she loves God.
I refuse to be a slave to anyone!
 
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It almost sounds like women should be slaves. :eek:


ha. Kinda reminds me of those feminists who think the same thing

Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." (Sheila Cronan).

"The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands..." -Declaration of Feminism.


Slaves to sin and their wanton desire for materialism is true slavery. Whereas the housewife or the chaste virgin living for God becomes truly free in God.

You cannot be free if your sensual desires control you.

One must have a very perverted view of marriage, nor any understanding of love and self sacrifice, if they think the conjugal duties between wife and husband constitute slavery.
 
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Probably becuase the mother is the primary care giver, you know becuase its her "role"... and men don't have much to do with their kids becuase his role is to work and go home and is off the clock while the women brings him his slippers, newspaper and a pipe while she cooks dinner and serves him, as if he can't make his own dang plate of food.

So you want to tell me again how you still think its "freeing" and fulfilling?

You have the stats right there honey, or are you going to blame this too on the feminist?
Interesting data, that's all. Leads me to believe that not only do women need men, but families need fathers
Remind me once again, though, how sorry you are for ganging up on me,
how much you really do like and respect me.
Not feeling the love yet.
 
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Okay okay lets say the men are right.

This means my only job is housekeeping, looking after children and making the husband as happy as possible all the while keeping quiet and just doing the job while he sits and moans about his job.

Yeah, right.
 
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women have the choice,

they choose to kill 7000 children a day through abortion

but it must be all the man's fault mustntit ?

Men have a choice too, thy can let their unborn children be born and help raise them and support them or they can do what Scott Peterson did, and murder them.

The choice is theirs, right?
 
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Both are at fault!

not in every case, i have personally seen a man go into a clinic to beg his wife to leave and he came out in tears alone

in texas a few years back a man took his girlfriend to court to stop the abortion proving he could and would raise and support the child- the judge refused to prevent the girlfriend from killing their child
 
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Okay okay lets say the men are right.

This means my only job is housekeeping, looking after children and making the husband as happy as possible all the while keeping quiet and just doing the job while he sits and moans about his job.

Yeah, right.

But why do you say it like that? Its good will shown to the man becuase she loves him and loves God. In return he'll go to WORK for her.

Don't forget, she does this becuase she loves God.
 
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No, not slaves, love... love, she does it out of looooove for him and God.

How you like that- she is a slave for the man becuase she loves God.


:doh:


are you sure your not a closet feminist? you seem to have some big anger issues. you seem to think that anything good a wife does for her husband is slavery or a job. I don't understand how you can reconcile or pessimistic view of marriage with the Catholic teaching of conjugal love between the spouses.

I hope you don't take this attitude out on your husband.
 
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not in every case, i have personally seen a man go into a clinic to beg his wife to leave and he came out in tears alone

in texas a few years back a man took his girlfriend to court to stop the abortion proving he could and would raise and support the child- the judge refused to prevent the girlfriend from killing their child

You know now you are just denying the facts.

that happens what, one time out of every 100? It happens more that the women is forced to have an abortion by the man and if some poor women stands her ground, some have been murdered for it.
 
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I say let's pray on it. I'll start, we'll go Hail Mary, Our Father, and then a group hug!

Hail Mary full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death, amen. :crossrc:

Who's up for Our Father? :)
 
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and lets not forget about the men who snap and go ballistic when they find out there is serious financial problems, he's losing the house or his high powered job and he does not know what the family is going to do, so he snaps and goes home and blows every body's brains out.

That actually happens A LOT! so we are not going to do this... were not going to ONLY look at the women and ignore them men who do this too.

About 20 years ago around the corner form me, this really did happen, man who had money issues, did not know how to handle the stress and he killed his family and himself. And we are contemplating on getting a new house on the same block. I have to make sure its not the same house. I don't want a house that a man killed his family in.
 
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why cant we say the Our Father first and then the Hail Mary

why do we have to say the Hail Mary first ?

I hope you are being facetious and you aren't actually serious, if so, wow.

and doesn't your wife work?

If she does, according to Meepy, you don't listen to the Church.

According to the popes, she is not supposed to and its even criminal.

Your wife is a criminal becuase she works. And don't argue, the pope said so, so now you are just arguing with the pope.
 
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