Does your Congregation burn incense during worship

[daydreamergurl15]

Acts ... you mean the Acts of the Apostles, the book that describes apostles going to the Temple at the hour of prayer (the three o'clock prayer hour), where incense was used ?

Do me a favor...just read it again. Yes, I mean that book of Acts.

 

[Dorothea]

Acts ... you mean the Acts of the Apostles, the book that describes apostles going to the Temple at the hour of prayer (the three o'clock prayer hour), where incense was used ?

. You're on a role today, Thekla, my dear friend.

 

[If Not For Grace]

Never been to a church that did? I think I might like to though

 

[Thekla]

Do me a favor...just read it again. Yes, I mean that book of Acts.

I think we should all read Scripture repeatedly, and above all prayerfully.

You can of course just say what you have in mind for this assignment.

 

[mark46]

I all ears (well, virtual ears).

Please give the scriptures which define in what ways we should worship; what is allowed and what is not. Perhaps a list of such legalistic nonsense will provide us all with some amusement.

No. There are no scriptures under the law of Christ asking us to do such a thing.

 

[daydreamergurl15]

I think we should all read Scripture repeatedly, and above all prayerfully.

You can of course just say what you have in mind for this assignment.

No! I'll let scripture do that. Than maybe someone won't come back and say "Act doesn't lay out a worship service."

 

[mark46]

I presume that you don't fly on planes or drive cars.

No. There are no scriptures under the law of Christ asking us to do such a thing.

 

[Rocky1960]

No. There are no scriptures under the law of Christ asking us to do such a thing.

Of course, there are no laws requiring us to do community service (well, unless you get it for a criminal sentence) or donate blood either.

Is there a scripture stating that we should be talking about this online?

 

[daydreamergurl15]

I all ears (well, virtual ears).

Please give the scriptures which define in what ways we should worship; what is allowed and what is not. Perhaps a list of such legalistic nonsense will provide us all with some amusement.

I won't make God's word an amusement to you (yeah, I understand that you think the list would be the amusing, but that list would come straight from scripture). If you want to know, read it again. NT does layout worship service and I challenge you to read the New Testament again.

 

[daydreamergurl15]

I presume that you don't fly on planes or drive cars.

IF flying on planes and cars were considered a wrong way to WORSHIP God, than I wouldn't. But seeing as it is not nor are they a sin, not worth talking about.

 

[mark46]

OK, fair enough.

So, you believe that the burning of incense is forbidden in the Book of Acts and Scripture tells us that such use is sinful?????

Please point out this scripture. I believe all of us accept the authority of Scripture as one of the doctrines in our churches.

IF flying on planes and cars were considered a wrong way to WORSHIP God, than I wouldn't. But seeing as it is not nor are they a sin, not worth talking about.

 

[Thekla]

OK, fair enough.

So, you believe that the burning of incense is forbidden in the Book of Acts and Scripture tells us that such use is sinful?????

Please point out this scripture. I believe all of us accept the authority of Scripture as one of the doctrines in our churches.

2cnd-ed

 

[Rocky1960]

IF flying on planes and cars were considered a wrong way to WORSHIP God, than I wouldn't. But seeing as it is not nor are they a sin, not worth talking about.

Does that mean that you consider incense during worship wrong? Becuase the book of Revelation shows the heavenly people using incense:

1. Revelation 5:8
   When He had taken the book, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each one holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.
   Revelation 5:7-9 (in Context) Revelation 5 (Whole Chapter)
2. Revelation 8:3
   Another angel came and stood at the altar, holding a golden censer; and much incense was given to him, so that he might add it to the prayers of all the saints on the golden altar which was before the throne.
   Revelation 8:2-4 (in Context) Revelation 8 (Whole Chapter)
3. Revelation 8:4
   And the smoke of the incense, with the prayers of the saints, went up before God out of the angel's hand.
   Revelation 8:3-5 (in Context) Revelation 8 (Whole Chapter)

I would think that they would know what they are doing in heaven.

 

[Thekla]

Does that mean that you consider incense during worship wrong? Becuase the book of Revelation shows the heavenly people using incense:

1. Revelation 5:8
   When He had taken the book, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each one holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.
   Revelation 5:7-9 (in Context) Revelation 5 (Whole Chapter)
2. Revelation 8:3
   Another angel came and stood at the altar, holding a golden censer; and much incense was given to him, so that he might add it to the prayers of all the saints on the golden altar which was before the throne.
   Revelation 8:2-4 (in Context) Revelation 8 (Whole Chapter)
3. Revelation 8:4
   And the smoke of the incense, with the prayers of the saints, went up before God out of the angel's hand.
   Revelation 8:3-5 (in Context) Revelation 8 (Whole Chapter)

I would think that they would know what they are doing in heaven.

The tradition of men that says "thou shalt not burn incense" is apparently stronger than Scripture

 

[daydreamergurl15]

OK, fair enough.

So, you believe that the burning of incense is forbidden in the Book of Acts and Scripture tells us that such use is sinful?????

This is what I said in another thread about the same thing:

Look, when it comes to the whole "candle, incense" things, I don't care if someone actually use those as long as they don't make that binding or a tradition that others have to follow because it is not worship. As for Icons and images, I think those things are a no-no because they can be very easily seen as something for someone to "worship". I don't care how someone justify it, you don't need an icon or an image to worship the living God.
http://www.christianforums.com/t7536141-26/#post56770430

If one chose to do those things, that's their choice but they however cannot make that binding nor make others do it and set it as traditions, because it is not actually part of the worship.

Please point out this scripture. I believe all of us accept the authority of Scripture as one of the doctrines in our churches.

The question specifically ask "does your congregation burn incense during worship"? That's my whole thing, when it comes to "worship" as the body, there are things that are asked of us and that's what our church try and do. Those things that are not asked or would be a contradiction in any other part we do not do.

When the question arised "Does your congregation incense during worship?" My answer was no, because it is not asked of us to do in scripture under the NT.

 

[daydreamergurl15]

Does that mean that you consider incense during worship wrong? Becuase the book of Revelation shows the heavenly people using incense:

1. Revelation 5:8
   When He had taken the book, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each one holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.
   Revelation 5:7-9 (in Context) Revelation 5 (Whole Chapter)
2. Revelation 8:3
   Another angel came and stood at the altar, holding a golden censer; and much incense was given to him, so that he might add it to the prayers of all the saints on the golden altar which was before the throne.
   Revelation 8:2-4 (in Context) Revelation 8 (Whole Chapter)
3. Revelation 8:4
   And the smoke of the incense, with the prayers of the saints, went up before God out of the angel's hand.
   Revelation 8:3-5 (in Context) Revelation 8 (Whole Chapter)

I would think that they would know what they are doing in heaven.

Look who is doing these thing and where.
Angels, Elders and living creatures in heaven.
By the way, it is discussed on the 1st and 2nd page.

And read it again, does it say "golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints."

Wait....are those "incense" prayers of the saints? I'm not so sure if those incense the same as we think they are.

 

[daydreamergurl15]

The tradition of men that says "thou shalt not burn incense" is apparently stronger than Scripture

Funny, "Thou shalt burn incense" is not in the NT either.

 

[Optimax]

No we do not.

Guess it would be ok if the building was old and had a "musty" smell.

 

[Rocky1960]

Does that mean that you consider incense during worship wrong? Becuase the book of Revelation shows the heavenly people using incense:

1. Revelation 5:8
   When He had taken the book, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each one holding a harp and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.
   Revelation 5:7-9 (in Context) Revelation 5 (Whole Chapter)
2. Revelation 8:3
   Another angel came and stood at the altar, holding a golden censer; and much incense was given to him, so that he might add it to the prayers of all the saints on the golden altar which was before the throne.
   Revelation 8:2-4 (in Context) Revelation 8 (Whole Chapter)
3. Revelation 8:4
   And the smoke of the incense, with the prayers of the saints, went up before God out of the angel's hand.
   Revelation 8:3-5 (in Context) Revelation 8 (Whole Chapter)

I would think that they would know what they are doing in heaven.

Look who is doing these thing and where.
Angels, Elders and living creatures in heaven.

Yes, that is what I said: People in heaven.
What I fail to see how how something that is done in heaven can be bad for us to do on earth? I admit I have never been at a service that has done this myself, but I cannot see anything that is neccessarily wrong with it.

 

[Rocky1960]

The tradition of men that says "thou shalt not burn incense" is apparently stronger than Scripture

That is a humorous irony seeing as how I have been "discussing" some things with a particular gentleman who condemns all tradition. Fascinating.