Tyndale and defying the Pope

[LittleLambofJesus]

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[Rick Otto]

I do not believe that anyone deserves to be burned alive. However, let us bend over backward to be fair to the RCC Church of the Middle Ages. The Church believed that heretics were effectively a cancer on the Body of Christ and that they had to either be forced to recant the error of their ways or to be killed, so that the their cancer of heresy would not spread to others and lead others into eternal damnation. As I understand it, the punishment for heresy was burning at the stake, because this would allow the heretics perhaps a few minutes to see the error of their ways and to make an Act of Perfect Contrition and thus save their souls, if not their lives. Immediately killing them by hanging them or chopping their heads off would not give them a chance to repent at the last minute and save their souls from Hell or so the Church felt.

Let their victims decide how "fair" we should be. Let's consider how they felt.

 

[VolRaider]

I do not believe that anyone deserves to be burned alive. However, let us bend over backward to be fair to the RCC Church of the Middle Ages. The Church believed that heretics were effectively a cancer on the Body of Christ and that they had to either be forced to recant the error of their ways or to be killed, so that the their cancer of heresy would not spread to others and lead others into eternal damnation. As I understand it, the punishment for heresy was burning at the stake, because this would allow the heretics perhaps a few minutes to see the error of their ways and to make an Act of Perfect Contrition and thus save their souls, if not their lives. Immediately killing them by hanging them or chopping their heads off would not give them a chance to repent at the last minute and save their souls from Hell or so the Church felt.

That's pretty big of them. I'd MUCH rather get fried like chicken instead of a quick death like beheading!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

That's pretty big of them. I'd MUCH rather get fried like chicken instead of a quick death like beheading!

Depends on how quick it is and whether the knife is dull or sharp.
I have heard of Muslims slowly cutting thru the neck of an "apostate"

Revelation 20:4 And I saw Thrones and they are seated on them. And judgement was given to-them and to-the souls of the ones having been beheaded/ pepelekis-menwn <3990> because of the testimony of Jesus and because of the Word of the God

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[LittleLambofJesus]

Let their victims decide how "fair" we should be. Let's consider how they felt.

I try to imagine that and for the life of me I can't.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

The spirit compels me

 

[SummaScriptura]

Tyndale and I are of one mind on the pope and his laws.

 

[SummaScriptura]

I do not believe that anyone deserves to be burned alive. However, let us bend over backward to be fair to the RCC Church of the Middle Ages. The Church believed that heretics were effectively a cancer on the Body of Christ <snip>

And that is precisely where the Church of the Middle Ages, and a bit earlier went into error. Per the Apostles, the heretics "went out from us" precisely because "they were not of us". Those outside the Church God judges. The Church did not "own" all the people who lived within their diocese; that idea was doctrinal error within the Church which should have been excised, but alas, they could not see the plank for the speck.

 

[SummaScriptura]

There are three out of 18 RC churches left that claim to have the original foreskin of Jesus from His circumcision.<snip>

So I guess when Luke told us Mary treasured up things in her heart, he did not tell us the whole story.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Tyndale and I are of one mind on the pope and his laws.

Glad to hear that bro

Blue Letter Bible - Lexicon
Strong's Number G1106 matches the Greek &#947;&#957;&#8061;&#956;&#951; (gn&#333;m&#275;), which occurs 9 times in 8 verses in the Greek concordance of the KJV

NKJV] Reve 17:12 "The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast.
13 "These are of one mind/gnwmhn <1106>, and they will give their power and authority to the beast.
17 "For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose/gnwmhn <1106>, to be of one mind/gnwmhn <1106>,
and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled.

 

[StThomasMore]

Was Tyndale the only Reformer to go against Roman Catholic dogma/doctrines?
And how do others here view him? Thanks

http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/william-tyndale.html

A clergyman hopelessly entrenched in Roman Catholic dogma once taunted Tyndale with the statement, “We are better to be without God’s laws than the Pope’s”.

Tyndale was infuriated by such Roman Catholic heresies, and he replied, “I defy the Pope and all his laws.
If God spare my life ere many years, I will cause the boy that drives the plow to know more of the scriptures than you!”

tyndales bible has more errors than the readers digest bible and his commentaries and prefaces were so ridiculous it becomes laughable, like "beating the fear of God into your wife".. Even prosecuted by the people who haply supported him.

Quite a folly of a man. More driven by anger and a venomous tongue than a real wanting to understand scripture or doctrine. I bet things could have changed if he and Erasmus had met. Erasmus was the same, in disliking the abuses of clergy, but at the same time he didn't let his emotions get the best of him where he started attacking the Church itself just because of corrupt priests.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

tyndales bible has more errors than the readers digest bible and his commentaries and prefaces were so ridiculous it becomes laughable, like "beating the fear of God into your wife".. Even prosecuted by the people who haply supported him.

Quite a folly of a man. More driven by anger and a venomous tongue than a real wanting to understand scripture or doctrine. I bet things could have changed if he and Erasmus had met. Erasmus was the same, in disliking the abuses of clergy, but at the same time he didn't let his emotions get the best of him where he started attacking the Church itself just because of corrupt priests.

I use my own translation of the Bible
So I have no view on Tyndale's translation.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7410829-7/#post53255379
King Henry VIII and Great Bible question

Great Bible - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Great Bible was the first authorized edition of the Bible in English, authorized by King Henry VIII of England to be read aloud in the church services of the Church of England.

The Great Bible was prepared by Myles Coverdale, working under commission of Sir Thomas Cromwell, Secretary to Henry VIII and Vicar General.
In 1538, Cromwell directed the clergy to provide "one book of the bible of the largest volume in English, and the same set up in some convenient place within the said church that ye have care of, whereas your parishioners may most commodiously resort to the same and read it."

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

And that is precisely where the Church of the Middle Ages, and a bit earlier went into error. Per the Apostles, the heretics "went out from us" precisely because "they were not of us". Those outside the Church God judges. The Church did not "own" all the people who lived within their diocese; that idea was doctrinal error within the Church which should have been excised, but alas, they could not see the plank for the speck.

I assume you are talking about the RCC?

 

[ebia]

tyndales bible has more errors than the readers digest bible
.

Have you read it?
More found vast numbers of "errors" because he counted ever point of translation that didn't suit his purposes (eg. Translating presbyter as anything other than priest") to be an error. On that basis he'd count every modern translation - including the Catholic ones - as full of errors. Considering it was produced basically by one man working under less than ideal circumstances it's a remarkably good translation.

 

[Brother Jason]

I can't believe there were 4 people on here with no idea who William Tyndale was!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I can't believe there were 4 people on here with no idea who William Tyndale was!

At least it is only 4 so far.
I am more surprised that 7 voted him as a heretic

 

[Isolation]

I Voted Yes

 

[dbakerman76]

I voted yes as well. There was a billion things wrong with the Catholic Church during that period of history.

 

[Brak]

They have a nice little exhibit on Tyndale at Holy Land Experience in Orlando. I liked it.

 

[Isolation]

I can't believe there were 4 people on here with no idea who William Tyndale was!

I didn't know who it was, but I got a general idea by the OP