Tyndale and defying the Pope

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Bushido216 I think the obvious suggestion is that Tyndale believed that particular clergyman to be so uneducated that even an illiterate plow driver could understand more of the Scriptures.

It was, in a word, Hyperbole.

Tyndale was correct.

I agree

 

[Memento Mori]

Especially since the Vulgate has more errors than can be counted and RC interpretations are interpretted through the lens of medieval forgeries that completed changed the constitution of the western church and exalted the papacy and clergy to imperial status.

source?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

source?

What would be your vote on the poll?

 

[Memento Mori]

What would be your vote on the poll?

I don't know much about the circumstances surrounding him. I believe in obedience to God-appointed men like the pope.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I don't know much about the circumstances surrounding him. I believe in obedience to God-appointed men like the pope.

Ok. Thanks

 

[Mixolydian]

Well, I voted, but the choices were limiting!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Well, I voted, but the choices were limiting!

Thank you.
What other choices would you have liked to have seen put up?

 

[brinny]

Was Tyndale the only Reformer to go against Roman Catholic dogma/doctrines?
And how do others here view him? Thanks

http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/william-tyndale.html

A clergyman hopelessly entrenched in Roman Catholic dogma once taunted Tyndale with the statement, “We are better to be without God’s laws than the Pope’s”.

Tyndale was infuriated by such Roman Catholic heresies, and he replied, “I defy the Pope and all his laws.
If God spare my life ere many years, I will cause the boy that drives the plow to know more of the scriptures than you!”

Tyndale, i believe, was doing what must be done when man places himself above God. It's the ageless struggle since before the fall....it started with Satan striving to be as God, if not above Him. It's PRIDE, man's achilles heel. And it be an ooooogly thing.

i didn't vote...choices are kinda limited....i don't believe that Tyndale had it in for RC so to speak, he was speaking the truth of God's Word and rejecting the tyranny of man, and it happened to be within the RC at that time.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

I dunno, what does this tyndale have to do with the bible college?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Tyndale, i believe, was doing what must be done when man places himself above God. It's the ageless struggle since before the fall....it started with Satan striving to be as God, if not above Him. It's PRIDE, man's achilles heel. And it be an ooooogly thing.

i didn't vote...choices are kinda limited....i don't believe that Tyndale had it in for RC so to speak, he was speaking the truth of God's Word and rejecting the tyranny of man, and it happened to be within the RC at that time.

Thank you brin.....

Thou art forgiven for not voting

 

[Rick Otto]

So long as they agree with the RC view, right?(wink)

If you're church is by your definition inerrant, it is ipso facto by definition, always right.

 

[brinny]

LOL c'mon LLOJ, ya gotta have more choices

 

[Gregory Thompson]

i enjoy addable choice quizzes,

unfortunately, the polls are just not set up that way ..

ohwellsies ..

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

LOL c'mon LLOJ, ya gotta have more choices

i enjoy addable choice quizzes,

unfortunately, the polls are just not set up that way ..

ohwellsies ..

I suppose I could have added "other" :o

 

[brinny]

yes

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

yes

I promise to do better next time sis

Btw, I wuv dat smily!

 

[Basil the Great]

Tis a horrible death indeed

http://www.christianforums.com/t6486531/
That heretics be burned is against the will of the Spirit.

I do not believe that anyone deserves to be burned alive. However, let us bend over backward to be fair to the RCC Church of the Middle Ages. The Church believed that heretics were effectively a cancer on the Body of Christ and that they had to either be forced to recant the error of their ways or to be killed, so that the their cancer of heresy would not spread to others and lead others into eternal damnation. As I understand it, the punishment for heresy was burning at the stake, because this would allow the heretics perhaps a few minutes to see the error of their ways and to make an Act of Perfect Contrition and thus save their souls, if not their lives. Immediately killing them by hanging them or chopping their heads off would not give them a chance to repent at the last minute and save their souls from Hell or so the Church felt.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I do not believe that anyone deserves to be burned alive. However, let us bend over backward to be fair to the RCC Church of the Middle Ages. The Church believed that heretics were effectively a cancer on the Body of Christ and that they had to either be forced to recant the error of their ways or to be killed, so that the their cancer of heresy would not spread to others and lead others into eternal damnation. As I understand it, the punishment for heresy was burning at the stake, because this would allow the heretics perhaps a few minutes to see the error of their ways and to make an Act of Perfect Contrition and thus save their souls, if not their lives. Immediately killing them by hanging them or chopping their heads off would not give them a chance to repent at the last minute and save their souls from Hell or so the Church felt.

Interesting.
I wonder how many of them recanted before becoming crispy critters
I saw this site awhile back on that and let me just say I am glad I did not live back in those times......

http://biblelight.net/burn-heretics.htm
The Benefits of Burning Heretics at the Stake.

In considering the treatment of relapsed heretics (most, but not all, heretics were given the chance to recant before being burned alive), it is obviously important to consider the underlining beliefs motivating such behavior on the part of the Catholic secular and religious authorities...................

To those watching someone being burned alive, as well as to the person being executed, it is clear that such a death was a vivid depicture of people's beliefs regarding Hell. In Saint Joan of Arc's Trial of Condemnation, Hell is not referred to as "hell" but as the "eternal fire". The same terminology was later used at the Council of Florence, and is also present in the current Catechism of the Catholic Church (paragraph #1036).

 

[razeontherock]

How bout this for a reaction?

"Catholics in the Milwaukee Archdiocese heard a recorded message from Archbishop Jerome Listecki played at most weekend Masses explaining the decision last week to file for financial reorganization and repeating his apology to victims of clergy abuse.

"I want to be very clear that this reorganization is happening because priest perpetrators sexually abused minors going against everything the church and the priesthood represents," Listecki said.

Lawyers for the archdiocese filed a petition for financial reorganization on Tuesday under Chapter 11 of the federal bankruptcy code.

The archbishop made no excuses for clergy who sexually abused children. His six-minute message was played at most Catholic Masses.

The archbishop's talk was remarkable for its blunt tone.

"Everything said today or any discussion of the impact of clergy abuse on the church pales in comparison to the harm that has been done to the individual victim," he said. "This abuse was sinful and criminal. The actions of the perpetrators were despicable, and I am ashamed because of those actions."

Listecki bluntly admits 'sinful and criminal' priest sex abuse - JSOnline

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It's about time for something like that.

Hopefully RC can heal, learn how to love their Brothers and Sisters in Christ, and thereby show a little respect for the blood Jesus shed. The rest I'm not so worried about, although they do owe the whole world an apology for the dark ages ...

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

How bout this for a reaction? <snip>

It's about time for something like that.

Hopefully RC can heal, learn how to love their Brothers and Sisters in Christ, and thereby show a little respect for the blood Jesus shed. The rest I'm not so worried about, although they do owe the whole world an apology for the dark ages ...