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When I first got saved, I had no problem believing that God loved me....His Spirit was all over me and He showed me in so many ways how much He loved me. Miracles happening, and prayers being answered all the time!

But for some reason, I've been having numerous problems with bad things happening....physical, financial, emotional, etc...I have not stopped praying, but I feel like I have maybe done something that God is really mad at me for that I can't remember-and I have repented of everything I can think of, and asked the Lord to bring to my rememberance anything I have forgotten-but He has not let me know of anything else.

I see miracles happen in so many people's lives-healings, wonderful testimonies, etc....and when people have problems, I know that Jesus is the only real answer to their problems, and that He can fix any problem....

But I have had struggles with believing He wants good things for ME. It's like I pray for people and fully believe God will answer prayers...but when I have problems, I feel like I am not worthy of His love and that He does not want to answer my prayers.

I know this is unrealistic, because God is no respecter of persons...but I have really low self esteem from my childhood, and am really having a hard time having faith that God loves me and wants to answer my prayers too, as well as other people's. :(
 

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It's important to get the right view of God. He doesn't promise that as Christians we'll be free from worries in life (just look at the recent terrorist attacks on Christian churches in Iraq). Have you read Job? He's attacked and suffers in a huge way. And all of it happens not because God is punishing him. God rebukes Job for asking the why-is-this-happening-to-me question (e.g. where were you when I made the world?) Yet through that whole time God still loved Job. And God still loves you. Jesus came to earth and willingly died on the cross for you because he loves you. Your sins are forgiven. For all eternity.

Having said all that, clearly you're still going through a rough patch. What is your Christian walk like? Are you in good Christian fellowship? Are you reading the Bible regularly? Praying regularly?

I'll pray that you find peace with God.
 
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Yes you can be saved, what we struggle with is the burden of sinful knowledge: The Burden of Sinful Knowledge - Christian Articles Resource

It often takes a slow and steady process to lead us sin, so don't expect to become holy overnight. The ways of holiness begin with recognizing you are a sinner and making a deep and complete choice to turn away.

From here on training will be required: this includes Bible study and training your will.

For example, if you cannot look at people without lust you might try living among nudists for a while. Learn to see the human body as something sacred.

No one is perfect, and no one is free from sin, but upon making a serious commitment to Christ and being baptized, we are to try our hardest to live without sin.

Always love your neighbor as if it were yourself. I find it helps to simply surrender to God. Instead of making a life for myself I'll give that life to God. When I woke up I realized I had a lot to atone for, so now when I do something I do it absolutely.

Christ is merciful to forgive sins, but it is by no means a license to sin willfully "For if we, knowing the truth, sin willfully (intentionally) there is no more sacrifice for sin, but only a sense of judgment and fiery indignation which is reserved for all the unrighteous."

Jesus went to hell after he died, for a few days to get the keys to death and hell. During this time he experienced pain for every single sin that anyone has ever committed. So remember that every time you sin, you are hurting Jesus Christ. If you love him, then stop!

In my mind I already committed suicide, but rather then physically end the life I give it to God. Yes some people NEED to convict themselves this strongly. As Christians we live in grace, we are not perfect. It is about our personal walk and relationship with God. I didn't quite get it before, but Christianity is about crucifying the sinful self and becoming a new creature in Christ.

But you will find that those who are very grieved by their sins often exhibit strong and passionate faith there afterward and get used it. Herein is why the holy Father might actually celebrate the return of his prodigal sons. The weight of sins past is nothing compared to an eternal future of righteousness so if we are talking about who God wants in heaven, it is most certainty those with serious conviction who are very serious about ridding themselves of their sinful nature.

Yes, we are baptized as children, but having no sins to repent for there is no remission of sins. It helps, but nothing short of a serious commitment to Jesus is going to get very far in the world of faith.

Yes, we are born as sinners, but the child who has never sinned cannot help but become proud and self righteous to some degree. Even perhaps thinking that Jesus is a cop-out and that one doesn't need him.

It's sad, but many such children have to actually grow out of their faith, even baptized, before their sinful ways hit them and they come to repent. God is yet understanding. How is a child to be "born again," when the child does not even know what it means to be a sinner? There is most certainly a difference between your parents baptizing you and wanting it on your own, but on the bright side you won't have as much to atone for either.

James 5:19-20 "Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his ways, will have saved a soul from death".

"Wandering away," is the most grievous of sins. For Christ does not give us a license to sin. Sin is usually done with some sort of good intentions, but one weakness unchecked will eventually corrupt the whole being. So then let us remove whatever causes us to sin, even if it is our hand or eye!

Most importantly, do not lose sight of that which is holy. When Jesus came before the Pharisees they knew full well he was the messiah, and even seeing the holy miracles that were done, they accused him of satanism.

Satan is not holy and cannot perform miracles, only illusions and trickery. All miracles are of God, and if God chooses to perform a miracle, evil may try to take credit for it, but do not be confused.

For when the Holy Spirit is actually before you performing miracles, any accusations of it "will not be forgiven, neither in this generation or the next." neither in the time of Jesus or in the day he returns.

If you are deeply worried concerning your forgiveness, and feel you have taken advantage of Gods mercy in the past, then you must also fast and pray and look for evidence of his forgiveness.

This evidence will be something personal. For me God gave me the impulse, that little voice told me to immediately throw out everything I had that was of the occult. Even though I had no shoes on, and it was cold outside, I did it immediately and without complaint. To my surprise I had great strength and did not suffer one little bit outside, until I was done and two steps from the door when the spirit left me and my feet were cold.

Jesus appeared to Peter after he denied him three times, and asked him "do you love me" three times. God is well aware of your need to feel clean, and to compensate. If he is yet willing to forgive you HE will make it known to you somehow. Be patient, trust, and never stop knocking at his door. If you were one that fell away somehow, then make a much stronger commitment then you had before.
 
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It's important to get the right view of God. He doesn't promise that as Christians we'll be free from worries in life (just look at the recent terrorist attacks on Christian churches in Iraq). Have you read Job? He's attacked and suffers in a huge way. And all of it happens not because God is punishing him. God rebukes Job for asking the why-is-this-happening-to-me question (e.g. where were you when I made the world?) Yet through that whole time God still loved Job. And God still loves you. Jesus came to earth and willingly died on the cross for you because he loves you. Your sins are forgiven. For all eternity.

Having said all that, clearly you're still going through a rough patch. What is your Christian walk like? Are you in good Christian fellowship? Are you reading the Bible regularly? Praying regularly?

I'll pray that you find peace with God.

Yes, I have read Job, and already knew that God was allowing those things to happen to Job as a test. No, my problem is from things that my parents said to me as a child-things that Satan has thrown in my face my whole life. It's totally against what God says, but I'm still having a hard time with accepting His love for ME.

Yes, I read my Bible and pray constantly, and yes, I'm in good Christian fellowship.
 
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Yes you can be saved, what you struggle with is the burden of sinful knowledge: The Burden of Sinful Knowledge - Christian Articles Resource

It often takes a slow and steady process to lead us sin, so don't expect to become holy overnight. The ways of holiness begin with recognizing you are a sinner and making a deep and complete choice to turn away.

From here on training will be required: this includes Bible study and training your will.

For example, if you cannot look at people without lust you might try living among nudists for a while. Learn to see the human body as something sacred.

No one is perfect, and no one is free from sin, but upon making a serious commitment to Christ and being baptized, we are to try our hardest to live without sin.

Always love your neighbor as if it were yourself. I find it helps to simply surrender to God. Instead of making a life for myself I'll give that life to God. When I woke up I realized I had a lot to atone for, so now when I do something I do it absolutely.

Christ is merciful to forgive sins, but it is by no means a license to sin willfully "For if we, knowing the truth, sin willfully (intentionally) there is no more sacrifice for sin, but only a sense of judgment and fiery indignation which is reserved for all the unrighteous."

Jesus went to hell after he died, for a few days to get the keys to death and hell. During this time he experienced pain for every single sin that anyone has ever committed. So remember that every time you sin, you are hurting Jesus Christ. If you love him, then stop!

In my mind I already committed suicide, but rather then physically end the life I give it to God. Yes some people NEED to convict themselves this strongly. As Christians we live in grace, we are not perfect. It is about our personal walk and relationship with God. I didn't quite get it before, but Christianity is about crucifying the sinful self and becoming a new creature in Christ.

But you will find that those who are very grieved by their sins often exhibit strong and passionate faith there afterward and get used it. Herein is why the holy Father might actually celebrate the return of his prodigal sons.

Yes, we are baptized as children, but having no sins to repent for there is no remission of sins. It helps, but nothing short of a serious commitment to Jesus is going to get very far in the world of faith.

Yes, we are born as sinners, but the child who has never sinned cannot help but become proud and self righteous to some degree. Even perhaps thinking that Jesus is a cop-out and that one doesn't need him.

It's sad, but many such children have to actually grow out of their faith, even baptized, before their sinful ways hit them and they come to repent. God is yet understanding. How is a child to be "born again," when the child does not even know what it means to be a sinner? There is most certainly a difference between your parents baptizing you and wanting it on your own, but on the bright side you won't have as much to atone for either.

James 5:19-20 "Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his ways, will have saved a soul from death".

"Wandering away," is the most grievous of sins. For Christ does not give us a license to sin. Sin is usually done with some sort of good intentions, but one weakness unchecked will eventually corrupt the whole being. So then let us remove whatever causes us to sin, even if it is our hand or eye!

Most importantly, do not lose sight of that which is holy. When Jesus came before the Pharisees they knew full well he was the messiah, and even seeing the holy miracles that were done, they accused him of satanism.

Satan is not holy and cannot perform miracles, only illusions and trickery. All miracles are of God, and if God chooses to perform a miracle, evil may try to take credit for it, but do not be confused.

For when the Holy Spirit is actually before you performing miracles, any accusations of it "will not be forgiven, neither in this generation or the next." neither in the time of Jesus or in the day he returns.

If you are deeply worried concerning your forgiveness, and feel you have taken advantage of Gods mercy in the past, then you must also fast and pray and look for evidence of his forgiveness.

This evidence will be something personal. For me God gave me the impulse, that little voice told me to immediately throw out everything I had that was of the occult. Even though I had no shoes on, and it was cold outside, I did it immediately and without complaint. To my surprise I had great strength and did not suffer one little bit outside, until I was done and two steps from the door when the spirit left me and my feet were cold.

Jesus appeared to Peter after he denied him three times, and asked him "do you love me" three times. God is well aware of your need to feel clean, and to compensate. If he is yet willing to forgive you HE will make it known to you somehow. Be patient, trust, and never stop knocking at his door. If you were one that fell away somehow, then make a much stronger commitment then you had before.

This has nothing to do with any sin I have committed. I ask forgiveness for any sin I commit. It's all to do with my own self esteem and believing that God loves me as much as any other Christian.

We are told in the Bible that we have to believe that God is a rewarder for those who follow Him. That's where I struggle. I believe that He rewards other people, but I'm having problems believing He wants to reward me too. I've been rejected so many times my whole life-it's hard now to even believe God wants good things for me. When bad things happen to me (and it's been a LOT lately), I still praise the Lord, but it's like I expect the bad stuff to happen, but at the same time, I expect good things to happen to other Christians and believe that God adores them and wants good things in their lives and answers their prayers...but am having problems applying that to my own self.
 
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He does indeed reward us. Hang in there and endeavor to appreciate what you have. If that isn't enough then ask his humble servants, who are eager to help.

It's basic human psychology to only notice or dwell on the times when bad things happen. Like my stepfather always complains when theres a car behind him and he's trying to pull out, but who counts the time's it doesn't happen?

The best you can do is remember it will pass, and thank God for all the good things.
 
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If you're feeling like you're not worthy of God's blessing, well, you're not. None of us are. That's why its grace.

What kind of rewards are you talking about? Rewards in this world or in heaven? How does any kind of worldly reward even compare to eternal life?
 
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If you're feeling like you're not worthy of God's blessing, well, you're not. None of us are. That's why its grace.

What kind of rewards are you talking about? Rewards in this world or in heaven? How does any kind of worldly reward even compare to eternal life?

I'm talking about Hebrews 11:6.....
"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him."

This world and the things in it are worthless-there is nothing that compares to Heaven and being with God forever.

I'm just using that verse as an example. Like I said-I have no problems when I pray for someone, believing that God wants good things for them...to heal their diseases, etc....but when it comes to my own self and my own prayers, I have problems believing that He will answer me. It's a self esteem thing I'm sure.
 
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Like I said-I have no problems when I pray for someone, believing that God wants good things for them...to heal their diseases, etc....but when it comes to my own self and my own prayers, I have problems believing that He will answer me. It's a self esteem thing I'm sure.

This is why its important to try and see us as God sees us, because self esteem is not a biblical concept. Not easy I know.
 
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Try not to envy what others have. With more also comes more burden. Consider that a rich kid with 100 toys hardly plays with any of them, and a poor kid with one teddy-bear can be happier.

Life has a funny way of balancing out even as the grass seems always greener. Sometimes when you get what you think you want you realize it was more trouble then it was worth.

Everyone seems happy on the outside, but even those people are struggling in some way. They just don't show it.

They may be wondering the same as you, and to them you may even seem happy or better off.
 
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Try not to envy what others have. With more also comes more burden. Consider that a rich kid with 100 toys hardly plays with any of them, and a poor kid with one teddy-bear can be happier.

Life has a funny way of balancing out even as the grass seems always greener. Sometimes when you get what you think you want you realize it was more trouble then it was worth.

Everyone seems happy on the outside, but even those people are struggling in some way. They just don't show it.

They may be wondering the same as you, and to them you may even seem happy or better off.

I could care LESS about other people's "toys"....that does not bring peace and happiness. Only a relationship with Jesus Christ will bring happiness and peace in your life.

I used to have a relationship with Him, and I do not know what happened,but I fear I have grieved the Holy Spirit beyond His forgiveness. Way, way beyond.

The ONLY thing that I envy is someone who has the Holy Spirit in them-I am so filled with envy that I can't be around that person.
 
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When I first got saved, I had no problem believing that God loved me....His Spirit was all over me and He showed me in so many ways how much He loved me. Miracles happening, and prayers being answered all the time!

But for some reason, I've been having numerous problems with bad things happening....physical, financial, emotional, etc...I have not stopped praying, but I feel like I have maybe done something that God is really mad at me for that I can't remember-and I have repented of everything I can think of, and asked the Lord to bring to my rememberance anything I have forgotten-but He has not let me know of anything else.

I see miracles happen in so many people's lives-healings, wonderful testimonies, etc....and when people have problems, I know that Jesus is the only real answer to their problems, and that He can fix any problem....

But I have had struggles with believing He wants good things for ME. It's like I pray for people and fully believe God will answer prayers...but when I have problems, I feel like I am not worthy of His love and that He does not want to answer my prayers.

I know this is unrealistic, because God is no respecter of persons...but I have really low self esteem from my childhood, and am really having a hard time having faith that God loves me and wants to answer my prayers too, as well as other people's. :(

Migdala,

God does love you! You were blessed to experience miracles and answered prayers! God also tests our faith by appearing absent from time to time. I'm am in a similar situation as you. Suffer from low self-esteem and have had a lot of trials in my life. I have faith and give it over to God and I believe he is sustaining my family. God also saved and restored my marriage.:amen:
Don't give up and keep praying. You feel God and his amazing grace again. Keep praying for others and He will answer your prays too. Just have faith!
 
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Actually, I have no business trying to uplift someone concerning Gods love for them. Today I went to church for the first time in like 18 years, it took all my strength just to keep from crying. Not because it went bad, it was far better then I expected! But because now I have such a deep hatred of myself and regret over the way I have lived in the past.

Between the tragedies, my hermit stepfather, and my own deep fear of rejection I stayed away from people, dwelled in solitude, did nothing with my life, lived in procrastination, lived in the past.

I don't think God was in my life at all. To me he was just another authority figure who rejected me. I hate myself, I hate my life, and I hate the evils in this world, especially the things that have kept me in the darkness.

Christians welcome people because it's their Godly calling, but nobody really likes me or cares and it's ridiculous for me to assume otherwise. I'm worthless. I'm trying my best to give God the chance to show me otherwise, now that I'm living only for him and to help others, but it doesn't change the most basic truth about my life: that of sorrow and rejection.

Nor do I expect anyone would ever fall in love with me. That would've saved my life immediately. There is no greater motivation for a man (except God) then in caring and returning deep love to the love of his life. Alas, what love is there for someone who despises himself? All my so called creative talents, the things I felt good about myself for, the ways in which I was gifted, all they did was fill me up with pride.

And what of my sinful past? Most Christians are generally good people struggling with some degree of sin everyday. To them I'm just a terrible person, and even if I hold myself to a higher standard because of it, it just comes off as my trying to be better.

So I don't know, maybe something will work out, maybe it won't. From my perspective, people like you Migdala, have nothing to be upset about. If I wasn't completely alone, if I even had loved ones in my life I would be insanely happy, and yet there are even people whose lives are worse off then mine so I can't really talk either.

I don't know why God favors some and then doesn't seem to make us happy. He is what he is, and can do what he will do. What I do know is that a victim mentality accomplishes nothing. God is a living God, not a machine after all.

Well like I said, I have no right trying to cheer you up, now when my life is nothing, but gloom and doom. If God is against you, he is 100 times against me.

There is no such thing as too much appreciation for the good things you have in life, and it is so very easy to take it all for granted.
 
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Yeah. I think when we are intentionally self-critical, that a properly-measured assessment of what God is giving us is hard to impossible. I hear that.

Like you, I struggle with the feeling. But I don't struggle with the assessment as much. Generally I simply look at the life I'm given with a whole lot more even-handedness. No, I don't get exceptional answers to prayer. I get a more general enjoyment of life. That hits me head-on. It's way more than my own self-critical life could manage on its on.
 
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Crosssword,
This is just a quick reply. I care about you! I have a church I belong to but I don't go as often as I should. That is going to change! I am not a perfect Christian. Who is? We are all fallible. What looks "perfect" on the outside, can be dark and ugly on the inside. You should be proud of yourself that you are giving your life to God. He loves you and welcomes you like the Prodigal Son. You are repenting now and trying to live for God and that is all that matters now. Don't worry about what other people *might* be thinking. You should be trying to be the best you, you can be :)
 
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Well, you know Migdala, Jesus would have accepted that crucifixion just for you, if no-one else existed. But you need to remind yourself that, given the way you are living and thinking, it is far, far more likely that Jesus is allowing you to be given these crosses, because you are living your faith as he wants, not the other way around.

When Jesus was baptised, we are told that he was anointed to suffering. But we also know that his Father gave him times of great joy.

Frankly, if Jesus had asked me if I wanted the trials he has sent me, I would have said, "No thank you, Jesus. I am not ambitious for high status in Heaven. Just to get in there would be great."

But the Christian calling is an epic, supernatural one, from which our earthly, human nature naturally recoils. We have to be as game as a pebble. But don't imagine your trials will not be interspersed with great joy and blessings. Of course they will. And more likely, the other way around: your happiness punctuated by trials.

You feel particularly "under the cosh" now, but it won't last for ever. Remember passive strength is the only true strength; one to which we contribute with our hearts and minds, as Jesus did. God reads our hearts and knows what we are capable of bearing with his help and encouragement. And with many women, it's normally a lot more than most of the most "macho" males could bear. It's very unlikely God would look to a body-builder or other kind of tough guy to show the same kind of strength that He is asking of you.

You won't have to wait for the next life for your reward, or all of it. You will find you become more comfortable in your own skin, more peace and comfort in being who you are, as you get older. Not that I underestimate your anguish at this juncture.
 
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Thanks Erie, I mean no disrespect to the people in this forum who have persistently attempted to help me, answer questions, and private conversations. You know who you are. These are attitudes and beliefs I have to work through on my own.

As a little kid my family was always yelling and screaming at each other. It caused me to go inward and filled me with fear. I used to walk around always looking down, never looking anyone in the eyes. Rejection and Sorrow is all I've really known so It goes against my basic nature to assume somebody loves me, especially an authority figure, let alone the king of all kings.

I don't know if it was all intentional, but it seems to me that God was originally JUST the God of the Israelites. When they failed to live up to his expectations he then opened the offer of salvation onto everyone, via Jesus Christ.

However, in the parable of the lords supper we find that since the guests did not want to attend, God instead invited people off the streets to his feast. Once again, is God's love for us solely based on his disappointment with the Jewish people? Had Israel been perfect, would any gentile ever know salvation?

So at what point am I to assume that he loves me? Is he not "just another lord" who will invite who he will? Am I to believe that if everyone who died since the beginning of time was revived for his new earth that he still would want more people saved?

Well the Bible tells us that "God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should turn and repent." I guess I just have a hard time reconciling this with his old testament character and my general disdain for authority figures. I'm not the sort of person who easily becomes friends with my commanding officer.

I tell you, were it not that Jesus so strongly cares for the little people I would have turned my back on him a long time ago and not given it a second thought. Now It's all well and good to regard God with fear, but when ones whole life is empty and full of sorrow it's easy to stop caring. Heck, not caring is what gets you through the day. It has always felt like an impossible situation.

I guess I've always had a problem believing in his love. I remember being on the bus and singing in my head, a reversal of Jesus loves me. Rather it was "Jesus hates me this I know, for my sins have made it so." Just as I hated myself for the death of my father and grandmother, taking a huge portion of the blame, and that nothing ever worked out for me. It must have been my disbelief in his love, that I didn't put forth much of an effort.

I don't know how you can all say "he doesn't give us more then we can handle." EVERYTHING has been more then I could handle, without being a freakin master psychologist at least. No I'm not blaming him. I was the cursed son of a satanist after all, after 5 abortions. If they had lived he would have never got around to me, and if I do nothing will they have died in vain? See I never thought I deserved to be here. Now if I had been born into a rich family that would have actually made it to child number 6 then my life would make sense. How was I to believe in God's love?

I have always hated that I have such a crazy messed up family. Father, Mother, child. That's all I ever wanted. Instead I have a satanist father, a harlot mother I never even knew who tried to throw me across the room. A stepgrandfather, a grandmother, a grandfather I never knew. No brothers and sisters, and my stepgrandfather's son who is now in prison for malesting a child. Wonderful. Is it really any wonder that I haven't been able to take this life seriously? It's nothing more then a bad joke for me!

But, this time I'm going to put forth my best efforts, despite my lack of faith that anything will work out. "Ask and ye shall receive" doesn't work for me. Is it faithful to assume God will give me what he feels I deserve, or is this side-stepping the issue of having faith at all?
 
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We're to love the Lord and others as we love ourselves. So yes having a good self image is important - not where we believe we're better than anyone else but you view yourself as favorably as others. what's even better is when we really know how God sees us.

Yahweh's always faithful to forgive our sins and He forgets (doesn't hold it against us (Rom 4:8, Isa 43:25). We do have to receive Yahweh's forgiveness (I John 1:9).

Heard someone say that for a year at every opportunity, they said Scriptures that were about God's love and it really helped them to meditate on those.

It's the enemy's strategy to continue to bring up our past. But while on earth and Jesus was tempted, He responded with The Word. So when those thoughts come, we immediately tell the enemy who Jesus is and who we are in Him such as Yahweh is our heavenly Father and we press on (Phil 3:13-14).

OP - there are times when Yahweh seems apart from us. Some say it's to make us stronger in Him - because we continue to pursue Him and know He will never leave us nor forsake us (Heb 13:5). Like you have already done - I also believe it's for us to do "heart inspections" because Scripture says we need clean hands and pure hearts (Psa 24:4). I'm not saying you've done something wrong but it never hurts for us to check. Right? If there's someone you can't be around, I'm sure you've already forgiven them and ask Yahweh to bless them.

I can tell you, I've found that these times last longer than what we would like but it does change!

 
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