Embedded Age Challenge

[AV1611VET]

And around we go again, this is non stop drivel, contrived crap masquerading as a belief.

What's wrong? can't peer-review God?

 

[MoonLancer]

What's wrong? can't peer-review God?

I already did

ps your not god, so don't get confused.

 

[Nostromo]

What's wrong? can't peer-review God?

What's wrong is that however many times people explain to you why your idea doesn't work, you carry on regardless.

Embedded Age is Omphalos. There is no such thing as age without the passage of time, just like there's no such thing as friction burn without friction. That's how the words are defined.

 

[AV1611VET]

Embedded Age is Omphalos. There is no such thing as age without the passage of time, just like there's no such thing as friction burn without friction. That's how the words are defined.

And yet there is such a thing as Omphalos?

Classic aurum.

 

[mzungu]

And yet there is such a thing as Omphalos?

Classic aurum.

Yes there is and in English it is called the "belly button". Now if Adam had one then why did God put it there? Since a belly button is an indication that one was born out of a womb and not from dust.

Did Adam have an omphalos?

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes there is and in English it is called the "belly button". Now if Adam had one then why did God put it there? Since a belly button is an indication that one was born out of a womb and not from dust.

Did Adam have an omphalos?

31

 

[Nostromo]

And yet there is such a thing as Omphalos?

No, I'm not saying that Omphalos is real, I'm saying that if you remove the self-contradictory aspects of Embedded Age, you're left with Omphalos.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, I'm not saying that Omphalos is real, I'm saying that if you remove the self-contradictory aspects of Embedded Age, you're left with Omphalos.

What self-contradictory aspects?

 

[MoonLancer]

And yet there is such a thing as Omphalos?

Classic aurum.

your trying to separate things that cannot by definition be separated. Age, Time and History. Its like your trying to convince us that a square without corners exists.

 

[Nostromo]

Age without the passage of time is a contradiction. Age is the result of the passage of time.

You can create something with the appearance of age (Omphalos) but it doesn't actually have age, irrespective of how convincingly old it may look.

 

[AV1611VET]

your trying to separate things that cannot by definition be separated.

Like the Trinity?

 

[AV1611VET]

Age without the passage of time is a contradiction.

That's why only God can do it.

Age is the result of the passage of time.

It is also a state of existence.

You can create something with the appearance of age (Omphalos) but it doesn't actually have age, irrespective of how convincingly old it may look.

Like raisin bread?

 

[mzungu]

your trying to separate things that cannot by definition be separated. Age, Time and History. Its like your trying to convince us that a square without corners exists.

Actually it does:

 

[Nostromo]

That's why only God can do it.

If God can make any word mean the opposite, or something else entirely, then we can read absolutely anything into God's word.

I'm glad you cleared that up for me.

 

[Cabal]

If God can make any word mean the opposite, or something else entirely, then we can read absolutely anything into God's word.

I'm glad you cleared that up for me.

This "literalism" lark's a scream, isn't it?

 

[Tiberius]

Ya -- I heard rumors to that effect.

What history?

33

So Adam doesn't have a belly button because that would mean something happened before he was formed that would require him to have one, yes? namely, it would indicate that he was once inside a womb and had an umbilical cord attached. Since he was formed from dust, or dirt, or whatever you want to call it, Adam was never in a womb, never had an umbilical cord and thus does not have a belly button.

Am i right with this?

 

[AV1611VET]

[delete]

 

[MoonLancer]

Like the Trinity?

Are you catholic? Regardless English is a poor language to describe such a concept.

 

[MoonLancer]

That's why only God can do it.

Can god make a square without corners? Show me. Show me a real world example of something with age and no history. I already know of your bike example, and please don't use it unless your willing to entertain the idea that Adam was a Frankenstein monster, or that the materials god used existed well before he did.

It is also a state of existence.

perhaps. But any state with an age has a history.

Your simply blind to the processes involved. Its funny that you get so hung up on a belly button but you ignore all of earths scars that must be embedded.

 

[Nostromo]

Come on AV, you're not actually going to let this one drop off the first page are you?