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Meh. This is why I'm a firm believer that people are responsible for their OWN thoughts. If a man lusts over a woman (however you define lust), he doesn't get to stand before God when he dies, and when God asks him about it, blame it on the woman. It doesn't work that way, it didn't work for Adam, its not gonna work for anybody else.

There's just too many things that one guy will say is a stumbling block, while another guy will say it doesn't affect them at all. It shouldn't be the womans responsibility to try and cater to every man on earth and avoid things that make each one lust. She can't. No matter what she wears, somebody is going to find an issue with it. She should wear what SHE feels like wearing with innocent intentions, and the guys need to man up and take responsibility for their own sins.
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First, nudity is not inherently sexual, and treating it as if it is only helps to ensure that people cannot deal with nudity in a mature and clinical manner.

Second, men are responsible for their own thoughts and actions. They are not beasts with uncontrollable sexual urges.

You can probably infer my response from those two statements.
 
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Do you think a woman who is after God heart it's appropriate to wear a bikini? I know there are some bikini's that do show your all your breasts but very few are like this. I'm not talking about a thing bikini or a skimpy one
I would see no reason to question the personal faith in the belief system of Christianity for a woman wearing a 2 piece bikini while swimming.

I personally believe that Christianity is a religion based solely on intentions so her intentions would thus be good by default simply because of her personal faith. There would be no reason to question if she's trying to show too much skin for some 'lust' type of reasoning or not because again by default her reasoning would not be for lust because of her personal faith.

She just maybe would have 'wider' opinions on what to wear while swimming which is nothing worth indicting the claim of 'false Christian' on her.
 
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I would see no reason to question the personal faith in the belief system of Christianity for a woman wearing a 2 piece bikini while swimming.

I personally believe that Christianity is a religion based solely on intentions so her intentions would thus be good by default simply because of her personal faith. There would be no reason to question if she's trying to show too much skin for some 'lust' type of reasoning or not because again by default her reasoning would not be for lust because of her personal faith.

She just maybe would have 'wider' opinions on what to wear while swimming which is nothing worth indicting the claim of 'false Christian' on her.

I think the issue runs a lot deeper than that. The only thing about what you said that I would really question is the idea that believing in Christianity automatically gives a person good intentions. And I also don't think it's a far cry to say that there are different ways to interpret saying that someone believes in Christianity as there are many that might believe the claims of Christianity but their lifestyles really don't emulate it.
 
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I think the issue runs a lot deeper than that. The only thing about what you said that I would really question is the idea that believing in Christianity automatically gives a person good intentions. And I also don't think it's a far cry to say that there are different way to interpret saying that someone believes in Christianity as there are many that might believe the claims of Christianity but their lifestyles really don't emulate it.
More times than not, a person that is serious in their faith are going to have intentions that resemble the faith...no matter if a man can stare at her lower part of her body while she takes a swim or whether if it is a one piece, or a pair of shorts and shirt. That's the furthest my post was going.

There are different ways of interpretating subjective feelings of the subjective personal faith...hmmm...kind of redundant isn't it?
 
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More times than not, a person that is serious in their faith are going to have intentions that resemble the faith...no matter if a man can stare at her lower part of her body while she takes a swim or whether if it is a one piece, or a pair of shorts and shirt. That's the furthest my post was going.

There are different ways of interpretating subjective feelings of the subjective personal faith...hmmm...kind of redundant isn't it?

Ok, that makes sense. I think there is an element to having faith that would involve helping other believers by not causing them to stumble but ultimately, it really is up to each individual to be responsible for their own behavior and the temptations they face.

I would argue that faith really isn't subjective if it's founded in Scripture but that isn't always the case. When it isn't the case, yeah, it does get unfortunately redundant.
 
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Ok, that makes sense. I think there is an element to having faith that would involve helping other believers by not causing them to stumble but ultimately, it really is up to each individual to be responsible for their own behavior and the temptations they face.

I would argue that faith really isn't subjective if it's founded in Scripture but that isn't always the case. When it isn't the case, yeah, it does get unfortunately redundant.
Well I would argue the fact that it is subjective because it is based on another human beings writing...ie scriptures but that part is not suitable for this thread or forum.

Facts are...a woman can go swimming with a 2 piece, with moral intentions, with Christian intentions, so there should be no judgment of her not being 'seeking after God's heart' because 'more skin is showing'.
 
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Well I would argue the fact that it is subjective because it is based on another human beings writing...ie scriptures but that part is not suitable for this thread or forum.

Facts are...a woman can go swimming with a 2 piece, with moral intentions, with Christian intentions, so there should be no judgment of her not being 'seeking after God's heart' because 'more skin is showing'.

Most certainly agreed. I think it's a little funny to think that anyone would have Christian intentions in going swimming :p but you could certainly say that their intentions are not bad or un-Christian. And it would definitely be silly to look at the swimsuit someone is wearing and be able to judge anything about what they believe.
 
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Most certainly agreed. I think it's a little funny to think that anyone would have Christian intentions in going swimming :p but you could certainly say that their intentions are not bad or un-Christian. And it would definitely be silly to look at the swimsuit someone is wearing and be able to judge anything about what they believe.
Well a Christian intention for swimming would be to swim with a godly manner...do everything in praise to the Lord right?
 
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I won't lie, this thread (at times) has made me:

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There's just too many things that one guy will say is a stumbling block, while another guy will say it doesn't affect them at all. It shouldn't be the womans responsibility to try and cater to every man on earth and avoid things that make each one lust. She can't. No matter what she wears, somebody is going to find an issue with it. She should wear what SHE feels like wearing with innocent intentions, and the guys need to man up and take responsibility for their own sins.

TRUTH!

In the end, you could be dressed in a bikini, or you could be dressed in a knights armor; if I'm struggling with lustful thoughts, it doesn't matter at all what you're wearing; and that's on me to work on.

Granted, I prefer less revealing; more conservative (unless it's something a wife wants to wear for her husband...which I won't see till I'm married anyways) dress overall. But if I'm having lustful thoughts about you, it won't matter what you wear. If a girl is comfortable in it, and she's not wearing it to draw attention, she should be able to wear a bikini. It's up to her and God, and no one else.

First, nudity is not inherently sexual, and treating it as if it is only helps to ensure that people cannot deal with nudity in a mature and clinical manner.

Second, men are responsible for their own thoughts and actions. They are not beasts with uncontrollable sexual urges.

You can probably infer my response from those two statements.

DUB-TRUTH!
 
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I think it is wrong no matter the intentions. I think it's wrong for a woman to wear a bathing suit and not properly cover up if she is trying to be a God fearing woman. People always say men would have lustful thoughts regardless of what your wearing, well if that is the case how come men only stare at me when I wear tight clothing or clothing that reveals skin versus when I wear big dresses? they do not even glance twice.
 
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I think it is wrong no matter the intentions. I think it's wrong for a woman to wear a bathing suit and not properly cover up if she is trying to be a God fearing woman. People always say men would have lustful thoughts regardless of what your wearing, well if that is the case how come men only stare at me when I wear tight clothing or clothing that reveals skin versus when I wear big dresses? they do not even glance twice.

I am so sure that if i wear a big dress i'll get more glance on the beach than a swimming suit!

It may be only in Lebanon though... We live by the sea :angel:
 
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People always say men would have lustful thoughts regardless of what your wearing, well if that is the case how come men only stare at me when I wear tight clothing or clothing that reveals skin versus when I wear big dresses? they do not even glance twice.

I guarantee they do, and you do not notice.

Those who blame women for the thoughts of men who lust after them either will not be satisfied until women are completely invisible, or they must contradict themselves by placing an arbitrary limit upon the exercise of their beliefs.
 
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I think it is wrong no matter the intentions. I think it's wrong for a woman to wear a bathing suit and not properly cover up if she is trying to be a God fearing woman. People always say men would have lustful thoughts regardless of what your wearing, well if that is the case how come men only stare at me when I wear tight clothing or clothing that reveals skin versus when I wear big dresses? they do not even glance twice.

When you set the "lusts" of men as the standard for a woman's dress code, this is what happens:

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Have fun in your glorified garbage bag! :)
 
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I think it is wrong no matter the intentions. I think it's wrong for a woman to wear a bathing suit and not properly cover up if she is trying to be a God fearing woman. People always say men would have lustful thoughts regardless of what your wearing, well if that is the case how come men only stare at me when I wear tight clothing or clothing that reveals skin versus when I wear big dresses? they do not even glance twice.
You haven't been around me ;)

When I'm single...I'm a lover of looking and I'll tell you what, as a gazer, it doesn't always require showing skin, or tight clothing to get my head to turn back around and look up and down.

Good luck with actually thinking that there is a way to dress to keep all seduction away.
 
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You haven't been around me ;)

When I'm single...I'm a lover of looking and I'll tell you what, as a gazer, it doesn't always require showing skin, or tight clothing to get my head to turn back around and look up and down.

Good luck with actually thinking that there is a way to dress to keep all seduction away.


Not everyone are perverts
 
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When you set the "lusts" of men as the standard for a woman's dress code, this is what happens:

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Have fun in your glorified garbage bag! :)

I actually admire those women honestly, I met a lady like this and I asked her what led her to this and to my surprise it had nothing to do with men.
 
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