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i think im cursed

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I think im honestly cursed.

i remember the day my life fell apart. it was may 2009. i felt that my wife was having an affair and i was anxious every day throwing up and having terrible fits of depression. so i prayed for the lord to reveal the situation and help me be who ever it is he wanted me to finally be.

over the course of weeks i found out that she was cheating. she took my kids away from me , i was homeless and had to pay her half of all my income.

i fight in court with no lawyer getting games played on me; i cant afford said lawyer, no income.

she has done all she can to take the boys away from me for financial gain.

i tried new relationships but i seem like i cant relate to a single person ; it doesnt work out so im basically isolated.

now im hit with a 4 grand irs bill because despite the fact that i had the boys the whole time she was out cheating she went pulled some strings and now it looks like im fraudulant.

the one thing that is pressing me to go forward is my kids reassurance and their love, but again , it's few and far between when i get to see them.
it's hard to keep myself focused on something positive because im not seeing anything positive. i've prayed, fasted and had the kids praying to turn this around so we can have some normal relationships but it's been years. i dont see how she is the adulterer and lieing and manipulating for her own benefit but our father in heaven is allowing her to continue to do this to me- all i want to do is raise my kids and live my life. shes literally living off of every dime i make. the thought of just quiting my job and giving everything i own up crossed my mind. God doesnt seem to answer my prayers anymore..or at all.
studing scriptures and going to service just bores me because im looking at life alot differently now that i've seen so much heart ache for so long
 

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My dear brother - I just prayed for you. The Lord will certainly change things for you - I know He cares way too much to leave you where you are. Sometimes we do face trials - some seem impossible to get through, but there is always hope. Please don't give up my brother - change will come. I know it.
 
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shes literally living off of every dime i make. the thought of just quiting my job and giving everything i own up crossed my mind. God doesnt seem to answer my prayers anymore..or at all.
studing scriptures and going to service just bores me because im looking at life alot differently now that i've seen so much heart ache for so long


Ok, here is the truth as best I can, but its can be a double edged sword.
It can hurt (a little) but will set you free (a lot)!

As Galatians teaches, (especially chapter 1) we (even as Christians) can be under a curse, for following or teaching another gospel.

That other Gospel, (even though there isn't really any other 'Good News'), is all to do with your effort in the Christian life.

That effort, is simply us trying to keep the law. Or put simply, us trying to live the Christian life, the truth is you can't, its impossible! LIFE is a person.
JESUS is the way, truth and LIFE. That Christian Life is HIM flowing through you. Not you doing anything but resting in what HE does, and provides.

Like branch to vine. The branch does nothing, to receive life except to stay connected to the vine. (see John 15:5).

Anything else of christian religious effort is under the law which in trying to fulfill (keep it) you get the curse.

So, GOD uses the trouble and the law to bring us to the end of ourself.

Note: I am not saying you are not a christian, we are talking about curses right?

Galatians talks lots about curses, and christians can be cursed when they are trying to keep ANY part of the law, because your obligation is to keep all of it if you try.

So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified. Galatians 3:16

So getting to the end (of yourself, not your life), is a good thing (and horrible thing at the same time).

Its what JESUS said we give up our lives to find life!

This is where the law (school master) brings us, to the end of our effort.
That is where we find life, that is where we find JESUS!

A life guard who sees a swimmer who is drowning, doesn't rescue the drowning man right away, but waits until he is almost exhausted himself, so the life guard can rescue him, lest both drown.

Throw yourself on HIS GRACE.
Meaning, that you meditate on the fact that JESUS loves you.
Really loves you and your wife and family - just how you are/ where you are.

Its un-conditional love.

Nothing you can do to make HIM love you more.
Nothing you've done that will make HIM love you less.

Its not based on you or your performance, but its based on another
and HIS performance!

Lastly, prayers get answer faster in GRACE rather in christian religious effort.
And also, your wife in the grand scheme of things, will be saved (even though she is doing everything contrary to GOD and HIS ways).

You will make it through, lean on HIS GRACE, knowing GOD wont leave you,
and HE is the GOD who comes to the lost sheep, HE is the one who looks for the lost sheep.

LORD, thank you for looking for brother 'fields316_2000', and knowing that you will give HIM tonight in his sleep, sweet sleep and teach him while he rests the things he needs to know. For in resting, we grow.
Ceasing from our own labor, we enter rest.

We are here for you brother, its a super dark time I know.
Things look different in the light and that light is shining.

-eric
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It might not be a curse ezeric. Saying the OP is following another "gospel" is a bit extreme. All Christians are faced with trials and temptations, it's life. The Bible teaches preserverance. The issue with the OP is not finding the ability to trust God but instead relying on the notion he's "cursed".

Give it all up to Christ.
 
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There are real blessings and curses for Israel in the OT
And there are very real blessings and curses for the Church & Everyone in the NT.

Look it up, don't take my word on it.

But I found it to be real, and you would be amazed!

Why would GOD talk so much about it, if it wasn't important?
Why does Paul talk so much about it as well?

Its up to you!

-eric
 
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May The Lord grant encouragement, for His Holy Name's Sake.

God is a God of compensation.

Whoever endures suffering wrongly, and is not compensated in this life will be compensated in the resurrection. Which is far better for the one being compensated, although it may also be more difficult for us to wait till then. And so once again it comes down to having faith.

Seemed as though The Spirit spoke encouragingly during a difficult/painful time saying something like - The compensation that God will give those who endure well this world's persecution, injustice, and oppression is so great and everlasting that those who did not have to endure much in their lifetime will sorely wish that they would have !

And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
<-----> Luke 6:20-23

Everything of this world is temporal, all times, whether joyful, or painful will pass away; but what will remain is a record of how well we endured, whether we stayed strong by relying upon The Lord and His Spirit, or whether our faith faltered...

Thankfully, we usually are given many opportunities, so the measure of faith within us can rebound if need be...

Every bit of enduring well which we experience, lays up some treasure in Heaven; and in our spirit, through The Holy Spirit, we sense the security of having such treasure, and this yet fortifies our ability to overcome + endure; and once this assurance is given us, it shines forth from us as a bright light, which works well to encourage and convince others of The Truth of The Gospel.

Once we are established in this precious cycle, no one can harm us in the least, for any evil any lay upon us, only serves to increase our heavenly wealth !

This kind of talk will sound crazy to those who cannot see The Kingdom of Heaven...yet...But once Christ Returns and makes these things to appear for all to see, what was once thought of as being "crazy", will be recognized as pure genius of the highest caliber !

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. <-----> John 3:3

Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
<-----> Matthew 6:19-21


May The Lord help us to clearly see His Kingdom to come, before it manifests as self-evident. Amen.

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1Pe 1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ.

1Pe 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you.

(Lets go back to the basics with a clean slate)
Do you have the holy spirit? He will give you the power to live a christian life. Human effort alone can't do this. Pray and you will get it. This will give you the inner strength to live the christian life.

Take one day at a time and get some inspirational friends that love God by their actions. Read the bible and pray daily. Get involved in a serious church. Its a life long lifestyle and you will know God more and more. True faith is demonstrated by actions than then the feelings will come. Feelings alone are like a roller coaster.

Does or did your wife fall into this category below?

Forgiveness: What if the abuser is a born again christian?
http://www.luke173ministries.org/templates/System/details.asp?id=39548&PID=466808



 
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There are real blessings and curses for Israel in the OT
And there are very real blessings and curses for the Church & Everyone in the NT.

Look it up, don't take my word on it.

But I found it to be real, and you would be amazed!

Why would GOD talk so much about it, if it wasn't important?
Why does Paul talk so much about it as well?

Its up to you!

-eric

I'm not saying they don't exist. I'm just not going to pull the trigger on it. You are taking extreme liberties. Do you think Job was cursed? Bad things happened to him. God was there at every minute and Job ended up being blessed because he put his trust in God.
 
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Galatians 3:13-14 (Amplified Bible)

13) Christ purchased our freedom [redeeming us] from the curse (doom) of the Law [and its condemnation] by [Himself] becoming a curse for us, for it is written [in the Scriptures], Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree (is crucified);

14) To the end that through [their receiving] Christ Jesus, the blessing [promised] to Abraham might come upon the Gentiles, so that we through faith might [all] receive [the realization of] the promise of the [Holy] Spirit.


Numbers 23:8 (Amplified Bible)

8) How can I curse those God has not cursed? Or how can I [violently] denounce those the Lord has not denounced?


Sometimes when we start talking about curses we forget who has the most power in the heavens and start believing that the devil can just curse a Christian whenever he wants. But, if you're God's son then you have received the blessing of the Holy Spirit and since you can't be blessed and cursed at the same time, and since God can't curse you without going against His own Word, I'd pretty much say the chances that you have a curse on you are pretty much "0."

Even if the devil did try to curse you God would turn it into a blessing.


Deuteronomy 23:5 (Amplified Bible)

5) Nevertheless, the Lord your God would not listen to Balaam, but the Lord your God turned the curse into a blessing to you, because the Lord your God loves you.

You can't curse what God has blessed.

Blessings

Alan
 
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I'm not saying they don't exist. I'm just not going to pull the trigger on it. You are taking extreme liberties. Do you think Job was cursed? Bad things happened to him. God was there at every minute and Job ended up being blessed because he put his trust in God.

Job was most certainly accursed. Look at his life.

Maybe God decided to turn it around in the end for him, but that didn't bring back his first set of children.
 
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Job wasn't cursed. He was tested. It's not the same thing. A curse comes out of wrath but God loved Job. He was proving a point to Satan and Job persevered. Because of that, God blessed him more than he had before the test. Tests come out of love so that we grow stronger in our faith.

Howard, perhaps you should have a pastor explain the story of Job to you.
 
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I am only answering the OP's first question.

And I think its a good one, many of us should ask.

When terrible wicked evil things happen, we don't go to the person and say
'what a blessed state your in, how happy I am for you', when the person is going through a fight with a deadly disease, or their family member dies.

Wicked and Evil are NOT blessings, they fall under the curse.
GOD isn't trying to curse anyone, but you become fair game, if you dont
know how this 'law' vs. 'grace' universe works.

Its about covenant, its the legal system of the ages.
Its powerful, and it works.
Real blessings, Real curses.
Sure GOD blessed JOB more in the end than the beginning, but why?
Because HE learned to trust GOD alone for salvation, and not his 'good works'.

All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."
Galatians 3:10

If you trust in man you are cursed. Job trusted in man, he trusted himself, with his offering's and 'goodness'.
Jeremiah 17:5

If you don't continually do all the law requires - you are cursed.

Law vs GRACE again!

Of course the 'flip side' is blessed.

-eric

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My mom got breast cancer. The last thing she though of was that it was a curse. No, in fact she thought it was a miracle that they found the cancer because it was so small.

What we may see as a curse is not always so. God can do no evil, can he? Someone dying is not "evil", it's the result of evil. Sin entered the world, and thus death. However, a Christian dying is certainly not a curse. It IS a blessing. They are going to spend eternity in peace with the Lord.

Yes Jesus was cursed - so we didn't have to be.

Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us

The penalty of sin is the wrath of God = death. It's Law vs. Gospel. The law condemns but the gospel saves. Because of the gospel we are not under the curse of the law. We do not rely on observing the law. We rely on Christ.

Job did not trust in man. He trusted in Christ and it was credited to him. He did not curse God. He just wanted an answer for why these things happened because he knew he had done no wrong.

Job says "As for me, I would seek God,and to God would I commit my cause" and "Though he slay me, I will hope in him". This is what he tells people who to try and reason with him: "As for you,you whitewash with lies;worthless physicians are you all. Oh that you would keep silent,and it would be your wisdom!"
 
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Dear Aibrean

Its TERRIBLE that your mom got cancer.
That is NO blessing - is it?

And Praise the LORD, for miracles too! I am with you on that!

But something greater than miracles is living under the blessing.

And that is what I am showing you, is available in JESUS.

GOD is not out cursing anyone, and like you correctly said
JESUS was cursed for us, so that we can inherit the blessing

(here is the following verse)

He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.
Galatians 3:14

But we fall under the curse, by our attempted submitting to the law, and trying to keep the law and teaching others to do so - read again Galatians.

If you try to keep ANY part of the law, you are required to keep ALL of it.
If you FAIL to keep ALL of it, you are put under the curse. Galatians 3:10

You are also cursed if you don't love JESUS.

If anyone does not love the Lord--a curse be on him. 1 Corinthians 16:22

There are all kinds of laws we've been fed by the institutional church that we
try to keep, and when we do that, we are leaving GRACE and following the law.

Its really that simple.

Tithing, Sabath Keeping, Hundreds of Denominational Rules, these are just some of the many things 'we try to keep' as 'good christians', that as Paul said 'cut us off from grace'.

Paul's trouble was 'circumcision', they wanted to 'add' circumcision to the GOSPEL.
You can't add a single thing to what's been done - if you do, then you are falling from GRACE (on your own) and putting yourself under the curse of the law.

Ask the LORD to teach you.

Or instead wonder all your life, why all kinds of bad things continue to happen.

Its not wrong to ask the question, 'am I cursed' - that was the question wasn't it?

-eric
 
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I think im honestly cursed.

i remember the day my life fell apart. it was may 2009. i felt that my wife was having an affair and i was anxious every day throwing up and having terrible fits of depression. so i prayed for the lord to reveal the situation and help me be who ever it is he wanted me to finally be.

over the course of weeks i found out that she was cheating. she took my kids away from me , i was homeless and had to pay her half of all my income.

i fight in court with no lawyer getting games played on me; i cant afford said lawyer, no income.

she has done all she can to take the boys away from me for financial gain.

i tried new relationships but i seem like i cant relate to a single person ; it doesnt work out so im basically isolated.

now im hit with a 4 grand irs bill because despite the fact that i had the boys the whole time she was out cheating she went pulled some strings and now it looks like im fraudulant.

the one thing that is pressing me to go forward is my kids reassurance and their love, but again , it's few and far between when i get to see them.
it's hard to keep myself focused on something positive because im not seeing anything positive. i've prayed, fasted and had the kids praying to turn this around so we can have some normal relationships but it's been years. i dont see how she is the adulterer and lieing and manipulating for her own benefit but our father in heaven is allowing her to continue to do this to me- all i want to do is raise my kids and live my life. shes literally living off of every dime i make. the thought of just quiting my job and giving everything i own up crossed my mind. God doesnt seem to answer my prayers anymore..or at all.
studing scriptures and going to service just bores me because im looking at life alot differently now that i've seen so much heart ache for so long

i think many churches are apostate, so dont worry about church. you will find hope and truth in the bible, so continue reading. also online is a good place to look for the truth. forums with lots of rules are not a good place to look for truth. keep your last paycheck and quit your dam job. this way you give the evil goverment nothing. live in the underground economy and save a bit of money. give your evil wife nothing. you are blessed that your boys love you. keep in contact with them if you can. tell them to keep secret a number where they can always reach you or somthing.

there is a good reason god said adulterers were to be put to death!

with you brother!
 
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I'm very sorry that you've been tested with so much pain in your life. It's hard to understand why some people seem to get more than their share, but God has a master plan. I sometimes think back to the slaves of early America. They had no freedom, and family members were separated (and some killed). They were often physically abused, and lived whole lives that most of us would consider to be miserable. Yet many of them still had joy, and they wrote some of the most uplifting hymns of hope. And while their troubles probably seemed endless at the time, how much longer have they now been with God in paradise? Were they cursed? I don't think so. But they were tested a great deal, and their perseverance remains as an inspiration to me when I go through the hard times that life throws my way.
 
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