Gays And Lesbians Concerned About America's Survival

[Archaeopteryx]

It's not a false statement, and liberals need to be goaded about their ridiculous stereotypical thinking. They don't just get to frame issues in their own terms unchallenged.

Ridiculous stereotypical thinking? Liberals aren't allowed to frame issues in their own terms? I'm sensing a bit of hypocrisy here. Some conservatives have been framing issues in their own terms in their own rhetoric: they have - for example - reserved for themselves (and themselves alone) words like 'patriot', 'pro-American', 'freedom-loving' and the like. Following this, any conservative opinion is held to be patriotic, pro-American and freedom-loving. Don't tell me that this isn't an example of conservatives framing issues in their own terms (and framing their opponents in their own terms also).

 

[MrGoodBytes]

Or because they recognize the REAL threat to America: Liberalism. Maybe you should face your own internal divisions and leave conservativism to those who understand it.

I'm sure they think liberalism is the real threat to America, and I'm equally sure those who finance them are more than happy to keep them believing that.

 

[Goodtry]

I woud have greater respect for your views if you weren't so strident. Gays, just as everyone else, are fully competent to make decisions for themselves. I have a lot of gay friends and family members, and most are quite conservative. There are, for them, other considerations than what you think they should be obsessed with.

"Some of my best friends are gay..."

And if their decision is to become legally married as the Constitution allows, which party is more likely to support that?

 

[MichaelHelp]

Are you trying to rachet p the heat on something that can't be rachetted up? I have no intention of getting "out of the kitchen."

You lberals are losing this discussion: did you miss the election of 2010?

Are you going to convince the conservative gays - a growing percentage - that they don't know their true interests? LOL good luck

Firstly... How many times have you told you that i am a centrist? Get your facts straight this is getting old. Although being a conservative i see how using facts is difficult

Winning 31% of any demographic is hardly celebratory, in fact it is quite pathetic.

 

[MichaelHelp]

Or because they recognize the REAL threat to America: Liberalism. Maybe you should face your own internal divisions and leave conservativism to those who understand it.

hah are you kidding? Liberalism is no more of a threat than the doughnut i just ate. The new far right wing conservatives on the other hand.

 

[brindisi]

hah are you kidding? Liberalism is no more of a threat than the doughnut i just ate. The new far right wing conservatives on the other hand.

Oh, Oh! Does our first mother Michelle know about your eating doughnuts? I hope you didn't buy that thing at a bake sale.

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

They probably don't want the US to get turned into Iran where they hang these sorts from cranes for sport.

 

[MichaelHelp]

Oh, Oh! Does our first mother Michelle know about your eating doughnuts? I hope you didn't buy that thing at a bake sale.

Seeing as i fall into the normal with regards to my height vs. weight i don't think she'd mind at all Even though i live in a red state i'm not overweight

 

[DaisyDay]

Oh, but they have. This thread is not the only one containing comments on conservative gays.

I only know this thread. Despite your repeating that it happened in this thread, it has not.

It's not a false statement, and liberals need to be goaded about their ridiculous stereotypical thinking. They don't just get to frame issues in their own terms unchallenged.

It certainly is false. In the second sentence in the OP you castigate liberals before they have even done anything. You opened this thread with fists swinging against liberals.

The thing is, that liberals generally don't marginalize gay conservatives any more than they do other conservatives, but conservatives do tend to marginalize even non-liberal gays.

 

[MrGoodBytes]

They probably don't want the US to get turned into Iran where they hang these sorts from cranes for sport.

And the likelyhood of this happening is...

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

And the likelyhood of this happening is...

Who would have thought that the US government would lock people up based on the color of their skin?

 

[MrGoodBytes]

Who would have thought that the US government would lock people up based on the color of their skin?

Yeah well, the last time that happened it wasn't exactly elderly white god-guns-and-glory conservatives who cried foul first. Anyway, I'm not sure I get your point. You think that gay conservatives support the Tea Party because they don't want liberals to hand over the country to the islamists?

 

[brindisi]

"Some of my best friends are gay..."

I see you have absolutely no understanding of the world other than your excruciatingly simple-minded liberal stereotypes. Yes, I have gay friends and family members who are very important to me, while your experince is what...shaking hands with a gay man once in a super market?

My experience is that liberals, while arrogant and self righteous, are extraordinarily limited in experience and thought processes.

 

[Goodtry]

I see you have absolutely no understanding of the world other than your excruciatingly simple-minded liberal stereotypes. Yes, I have gay friends and family members who are very important to me, while your experince is what...shaking hands with a gay man once in a super market?

My experience is that liberals, while arrogant and self righteous, are extraordinarily limited in experience and thought processes.

Not that its any of your business but I shook a lot more than his hand.

My understanding of the gay community is an order of magnitude better than yours I'd wager.

 

[tulc]

I see you have absolutely no understanding of the world other than your excruciatingly simple-minded liberal stereotypes. Yes, I have gay friends and family members who are very important to me, while your experince is what...shaking hands with a gay man once in a super market?

My experience is that liberals, while arrogant and self righteous, are extraordinarily limited in experience and thought processes.

You're adorable when you pontificate!
tulc(suspects that big brush you use must get awful heavy sometimes)

 

[brindisi]

You're adorable when you pontificate!
tulc(suspects that big brush you use must get awful heavy sometimes)

Trading in my brush for a spray gun.

 

[brindisi]

Not that its any of your business but I shook a lot more than his hand.

My understanding of the gay community is an order of magnitude better than yours I'd wager.

I doubt the order of magnitude part, but it sounds like you've shaken more things than I.

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

Yeah well, the last time that happened it wasn't exactly elderly white god-guns-and-glory conservatives who cried foul first. Anyway, I'm not sure I get your point. You think that gay conservatives support the Tea Party because they don't want liberals to hand over the country to the islamists?

It was the third highest ranking us president that did it

My point is that you should never say that it can't happen here.

 

[Goodtry]

I doubt the order of magnitude part, but it sounds like you've shaken more things than I.

Well perhaps, but at the very least I have a better perspective than you.

 

[brindisi]

Well perhaps, but at the very least I have a better perspective than you.

I have to agree.

When you say you understand the gay community better than I, I'm sure you're referring to not just gay specific issues, but the full range of human issues, including political. No one should ever be ridiculed for holding views other than what a larger society thninks it's appropriate for him to hold.