The role of women as wives and mothers

[Davidnic]

By the way I don't enslave myself to those views. Though there are sure a lot of people out there who try to catch me with the chains...

Don't let them, it is not an authentic expression of Catholic womanhood.

 

[Eucharisted]

Don't let them, it is not an authentic expression of Catholic womanhood.

 

[benedictaoo]

While a woman can work, It should never usurp her role in motherhood and in marriage. It is always a secondary..

Oh they can? How nice of someone to let them...

Got a question for you there Creed, if the women does work, are you saying in this statement that she is not entitled to the husband sharing the housework and parenting duties?

I don't want to put any words in your mouth but it seems you are saying that if she works, she is on her own as far as any added help from the male figure is concerned... becuase you know, realistically she would not be able to "do it all" if she worked and the hubs would not help out.

 

[benedictaoo]

What if a wife can't really cook, but the husband is really fond of cooking (like a hobby)?

n/m

 

[Gwendolyn]

So what is a woman to do if she can't have kids? There goes the motherhood role.

 

[Sphinx777]

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[JacktheCatholic]

You are very welcome!

How did you two go about organising yourselves that way? Straight up practicalities?

My wife would have preferred staying home and being the house wife and teaching. But it just was not feasible. After much prayer and the pending concerns for what our children were learning outside the home we eventually thought that God was guiding me to be the teacher and house husband. So, for financial reasons and because we believe God was calling me, we set up the home school and I quit my job. That was last November and it has been working out fine, thanks to God.

 

[JacktheCatholic]

So what is a woman to do if she can't have kids? There goes the motherhood role.

I think this is where our gift of faith comes in. Be open to life and the miracles of God. Women still have children even when barren. Go figure... God is awesome!

 

[Boogdar]

That was last November and it has been working out fine, thanks to God.

It's good to see someone who recognizes the hand of God in their life. Count all of our blessings!

Although, many of us would prefer a life we don't have, that kind of attitude keeps us down. My husband and I recently had our lives turned upside down, it is only because of God that we come through it so well. We are in a tough spot right now, and our roles aren't quite what we wanted at the beginning, but we are happier, because we have come closer to God.

Many talk of what the roles "should" be, but sometimes it just is not possible, I believe God supports faithful hearts who are trying in all our endeavors.

 

[Boogdar]

Women still have children even when barren. Go figure... God is awesome!

My barren sister-in-law, and my barren cousin just recently had children after years and years of trying. 15 I think for my cousin. So it's true, it does happen.

But if it doesn't, and it certainly doesn't always, I believe that there are different kinds of mothers. Whether your children are adopted formally, the children of the neighborhood (adopted informally), being a good role model or mother figure is always a very important role.

And I think it's certainly of note that motherhood is not the only calling a woman can undertake.

 

[CreedIsChrist]

I disagree with the concepts of "women's work" and "men's work" for the most part. There are certain jobs I'd rather not do, and likewise for my husband. But that doesn't mean any kind of work is beneath either of us - it's more loving to do jobs the other really dislikes though.

I can and do change tyres, lightbulbs, oil, take garbage out, change washers, etc.

My husband can and does cook, mend things, get kids dressed, make lunches, etc.

And we're not exclusive about it! We share pretty much all tasks.

I don't think a woman should be taking smelly garbage out, that is the mans job..

God instituted a natural law. When I see women in construction sites, or as police officers, or carpenters, politicians, I see something very "unnatural" in that situation. It just doesn't mend with the femininity god gave woman. Just as if you saw men all of a sudden wearing skirts and womens clothing and getting jobs doing makeup on women. It would be unnatural. Probably one of the reasons why so many homosexuals end up in female fashion and makeup. Look at Nancy Pelosi. Talk about devoid of any femininity...

Got a question for you there Creed, if the women does work, are you saying in this statement that she is not entitled to the husband sharing the housework and parenting duties?

I don't want to put any words in your mouth but it seems you are saying that if she works, she is on her own as far as any added help from the male figure is concerned... becuase you know, realistically she would not be able to "do it all" if she worked and the hubs would not help out.

No, if she has children motherhood is her primary issue. Secondary jobs should be treated as having no bearing on family life. Especially if the husband has a very hard job or labor. If he comes home to an arguing wife complaining about who should take care of who because of her work then that shows that her job is effecting her role in motherhood. This atttitude is actually very common in many marriages in the west and probably contributes to the high divorce rate. The bible says a contentious argumentative wife is poisons to a mans bones. hence if the wife is constantly arguing to her husband about these issues, it spells a recipe for divorce and unhappiness. Philis Shaffly actually goes into great detail about this and how when a wives job takes over her family.

A husband should come come to a wife who greets him and helps make him feel at home and loved. Takes off his coat when he comes in. Tell him shes glad to see him. Has food cooked to show that she appreciates him and knows he has worked a hard day. That is the true christian way. Because it shows the reciprocating in the spouses. The husband tells the wife that he is supporting her and willing to protect and sacrifice for her. And the wife shows that she appreciates this and it willing to show her appreciation to her husband for caring an providing for her. Wives who ignore this do not understand the christian tenants of what charity is..A wife should be happy just to see her man home and should always be willing to make his life more comfortable, not UN-comfortable.

 

[Davidnic]

So what about stay at home dads Creed? How does that work out in this if a job for a woman is secondary.

 

[CreedIsChrist]

So what about stay at home dads Creed? How does that work out in this if a job for a woman is secondary.

I'm talking about traditional roles of husband being provider-supporter, and wife being help-meet, caretaker, nurturer.

Unorthodox ways of family rearing obviously would turn upside-down many tenants. Most families in the US tend to go on unorthodox tenants though, even if the wife stays at home..Which is why my views are so 'off' to them. The parenting values of today mostly reflect the 60s counter culture revolution. That is where the no-spanking teaching came out from.

 

[Davidnic]

I'm talking about traditional roles of husband being provider-supporter, and wife being help-meet, caretaker, nurturer.

Unorthodox ways of family rearing obviously would turn upside-down many tenants. Most families in the US tend to go on unorthodox tenants though, even if the wife stays at home..Which is why my views are so 'off' to them. The parenting values of today mostly reflect the 60s counter culture revolution. That is where the no-spanking teaching came out from.

Actually the No Spanking thing came from St. Don Bosco not the 1960's. Different thread though.

 

[CreedIsChrist]

Actually the No Spanking thing came from St. Don Bosco not the 1960's. Different thread though.

I read his documents. He never condemns spanking.. In fact, he talks about quite a perilous abusive travel from a vision of walking across a bridge full of traps to get to heaven. Many of these traps were quite punishing..

 

[Davidnic]

I read his documents. He never condemns spanking.. In fact, he talks about quite a perilous abusive travel from a vision of walking across a bridge full of traps to get to heaven. Many of these traps were quite punishing..

Re-read then. Focusing on his preventative method.

 

[CreedIsChrist]

Re-read then. Focusing on his preventative method.

quotes please??

 

[benedictaoo]

hey Creed, I'm going to go take a shower in a little while- do I need to provide a quote for that?

You remind me of the good bible only folks - who need a bible verse just to go to the bathroom.

 

[WarriorAngel]

Women are often humbled just for being.

Women should see this as a great sign of the life to come. If we find no exaltation on this earth - the next life we reap the greater merit.

For God choose a woman to be His favored one. And she was humble in life and in Heaven she is reigning Queen.

The humble shall be exalted and the exalted shall be humbled.

As you were. Sorry to break in with philosophical stuff so early.

 

[Davidnic]

quotes please??

if you've read him in any substantial way you should know all about the method he created that guides his schools to this day.

Meet me over in the thread on Spanking so this one is not derailed...I am sure we are allowed one thread not about spanking.