Why do the pretty and popular always win?

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gee, this is a great thread to make ordinary looking people feel unwanted.

Have to say that made me laugh. While looks is a big part of attraction, there is far more to it than that. A lot of it really is personality and interests as well. For instance, knowing guns totally increases a girl's sexiness. To me, showing her love for God is a very attractive feature in a woman. I've known girls that aren't super pretty, but they're super attractive.
 
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gee, this is a great thread to make ordinary looking people feel unwanted.

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I hope it doesn't, the slump that people get into over "the beautiful people" is one that's best accepted as one of those things. There are people who many would not describe as beautiful who find companionship with someone, the only difference between themselves and the beautiful individual may be that for the ordinary folk it took more time and less wheat sorting. It's not something that can be easily changed so thinking about it is rarely a good thing, it can hinder your life view to the point where you can't see the wood for the trees.
 
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[COLOR="Red" said:
NotTooImportant[/COLOR];55731068]...Pretty much all my friends are better looking than I am, so I watch them get attention from all the girls while I'm standing in the back. ....Anyone got a good answer?

yeah. work on your self image.
 
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I agree with exploding boy. My whole point is that people are not going to flock to you because you have a hard time communicating with others, especially not when you're acting as pessimistic as you are now.

Dare i say it, they're not going to baby you and spoon feed you affection. Any that do will be short lived. I don't mean to be harsh, i mean to be frank. You honestly don't seem like you would even want to change. Please, PLEASE correct me if i'm wrong there, but it seems like you expect, EXPECT people to take pity on you and befriend you out of this and this alone. I understand you as i have been in similar shoes, but it also angers me.

Listen man, we're offering help. We can't carry you through whatever you're going through, but we can ease your burdens, however slight. Many people have suggested asking God to help you, and I really don't see how that would worsen your situation in any way. I'm not saying you gotta believe what i believe, I'm suggesting for you to try asking God to help. The worst that can happen is nothing. The best that can happen is something good will come of it.

Regardless if you decide to ask God or not to help you, you have to want to change and grow if you want to get out of this situation. It also reminds me of a story.

Once there was this man out on the ocean, deep sea fishing. In the middle of the afternoon, his boat started to sink. Something had left a hole in the bottom of the boat. The man prayed to God for help, to deliver him from his plight. He continued to ask and ask and ask but nothing was happening. He began to get frustrated, but decided that God would, without doubt, come to save him.

After an hour, a lone boat wandered by. The driver of the boat asked the man if he needed help, to which he replied, "No thanks, I'm waiting on God to save me." The driver argued with the man for a while, then drove on in frustration at the man's stubbornness.

After a few more hours, yet another boat came. The driver asked the man if he needed help, to which he replied, "No thanks, I'm still waiting on God to save me." The driver argued for a bit, then drove on astounded at the man's unwillingness to accept help.

Eventually, after several more hours and two more boats stopping to ask the man for help, the man became exhausted, and drown.

The man awoke in heaven, and discovered that he was dead. The man eventually ran into God and asked him why God had not saved him, why he let him drown.

God replied, "I sent you four boats, and you rejected all of them. What more would you ask of me?"

Moral of the story, you have to be willing to take advice and help if you want to be delivered from something, whether it be a life threatening situation or not being able to find a girl, or maybe even a friend to bond with. It's fine if you don't want to listen to what i have to say, but there are some truly kind people on here that are more than willing to help you. Don't shove them away by saying that they'll never know how you feel or that things are hopeless. It's very rare to find those people that care, last thing you want to do is push them away.

If you do not want to change, then i don't know what to say. I believe a great deal of your problem is in your head. I'm not saying that you'll be able to "score any chick" if you change, but I think you'll be able to find someone who cares about you and even like yourself a bit more.
 
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yeah. work on your self image.

i actually have to agree, and i don't mean this in a demeaning way, but you seem extremely unconfident in yourself and shy around girls, and it seems like you're mis-placing all that anxiety on your looks.

you need to realize that placing anxiety on your "bad" looks (true or not) is only going to make you more uneasy/unconfident and hinder you more.
 
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I've read your previous threads, they honestly all sound the same.

and the answer is still the same as ever.
Really? I thought I focused more on the "pretty and popular" aspect more than the "suicide" ones.
Kol said:
C'est la vie. "Each man has his own gift from God." Why resent what others have? Didn't God give bless you as well?
No, I don't think he did. It's hard to believe that every person in the world has a gift.
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Moral of the story, you have to be willing to take advice and help if you want to be delivered from something
I'd love to work on my self image, there's not much I can do about my physical features, and I don't have much of a reason to be confident or happy about myself.
 
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[sarcasm on]

You can always go out looking for examples of people who are uglier or even less popular than you are if you are feeling down. Usually it is possible to spot them, and you can use them as an ego booster. For example, if you are missing several fingers and an eye, meeting someone who is missing all of their fingers and is blind might help put things into perspective.

[/sarcasm off]

Why do the pretty and popular always win? They don't.

The pretty and popular always have fanfare surrounding them, but the truly successful are often not very popular, at least to start off; and there is no evidence to suggest that those who are the most beautiful get the most joy out of life either.

If you are talking about success in life generally, commit to your business and you will earn success. If you are talking about success with women, I guess that is a different kettle of worms; but I can certainly attest to the fact that the women who I have been most attracted to over time have usually not been supermodel types. They have been normal people who made themselves appealing by being optimistic, kind, patient, who had outstanding integrity, etc..

It is easy to spend more time wishing to be some kind of fantasy person that we are not and less time committing to real business. Hollywood would have us believe that life is about driving fancy cars, carrying firearms, dodging explosions, romancing super beautiful women, winning the battles against evil, and saving mankind in usually less than 180 minutes. In real life, it usually takes at least all day to get those things done. ;)

Make no mistake. You can be extraordinary.
 
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People must understand that they are the sum of their parts. There is no shame in not being the prettiest; that slippery slope will quickly show that you can not be the best at everything. It does not mean you must be smart, or financially stable, or wise, or anything else. Because you are the sum of your parts, there are parts of you that attract others. And in turn parts of others that you are attracted to. Physical appearance is the most lamented about characteristic because everyone can see this. Realize that why people very similar, their perception is widely varied; and their needs and wants in a partner are absolutely affected by this.
The media portrayals are shortcuts; everyone can identify with a "good looknig person" and the stories are all similar. There is not enough time for true development and understanding of a real person in the span of a film. The total concept is that people will find someone to make them happy, or that people possess certain traits based upon the stereotypical attributes they are given. Think of the shifty eyed character who gets teh evil music. You must remember that real life is not like television. Good luck to you; I know it is hard as a single man. I remember those days. I'm currently suffering my own issues but will try not to bleed them into this.
 
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Really? I thought I focused more on the "pretty and popular" aspect more than the "suicide" ones.

End of the day, it's still pretty much a teenage angst driven whine.

Life ain't fair you just make the most out of the cards you've been given, no point pineing about what the pretty successful people are doing.
 
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I'd love to work on my self image, there's not much I can do about my physical features, and I don't have much of a reason to be confident or happy about myself.

I have a (female) friend who is a darling; happy, confident, a loving mother and grandmother. My girls run up and hug her whenever they see her. I love talking to her. The catch: her face is - to be perfectly blunt - flat-out ugly. Misshapen. It's not just ugliness, tho; it's genetic. One of her daughters looks exactly like her, another is unbelievably beautiful. Plastic surgery is out of the question.

If SHE can go beyond her appearance to be the great friend she is, YOU can certainly get over yourself.

 
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I'm trying. In all honesty though, I might as well turn gay. I might have to give up my best friend, because now he gives me too many bad memories. I must have done something horrible in a past life.

Does your best friend have any good qualities? Is he kind or understanding, does he get what you're going through? Is he worth keeping? Most importantly, will losing him make you more miserable.
Make a list of pros and cons.
Everybody has things that they wish they could change about their appearance. Me? I would love it if I could meet one person that didn't tell me I looked twelve. I get it ALL the time. And I'm in my twenties. People are so blunt and rude, a few have even outright argued with me until I showed them my I.D. I'm getting used to it by now, but somedays it still hurts.
But I try to act confident and still get guys attention. Not every guy, but the one's that aren't all hung up about my shortcomings (pun intended)
I think you're meeting the wrong girls.
 
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JesusSaved said:
Does your best friend have any good qualities? Is he kind or understanding, does he get what you're going through? Is he worth keeping? Most importantly, will losing him make you more miserable.
He has tremendous amounts of good qualities. He understood what I was going through when I explained it to him years ago, although he thinks I'm over all that now. He would be worth keeping.

I sort of doubt that losing him would make me more miserable, as I slowly start to get over it until I see him or that girl. I won't break off the friendship to his face, as I'll just try to slowly fade out. My friend and the girl weren't trying to hurt me, but I can't get over how she flies all the way from Canada just to see my friend. Why can't I be that lucky?
 
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I'm trying. In all honesty though, I might as well turn gay. I might have to give up my best friend, because now he gives me too many bad memories. I must have done something horrible in a past life.
have you considered therapy? i'm not trying to be demeaning here, so don't take this that way.... what you're going through should be hard, but not that hard. "my best friend dated this girl i wanted to date" shouldn't amount to that sort of anxiety that causes you to change your identity, or abandon your best friendship. don't you see that?

don't you see that in both instances you'd be running away from a situation that you shouldn't have to? what are you really running from?

just give therapy a thought. the advice you get on an online forum may not be that helpful, and you can only vent to strangers for so long before that becomes just as unhelpful.
 
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I happen to come across your post and I am glad that I did for a number of reasons. First, just to know that I am not alone. But secondly to offer some advice. This is something that has always bothered me as well , but you have to understand that people are a very shallow, I am not sure why totally but it is the way it is. I myself am not lucky emough to be considered one of the attractive people and I have noticed a lot of differences in attitudes towards me and towards attractive people. I know that you applying the question from the veiwpoint of having a girlfriend but to expand a little on the title of your post..... life is hard if you are not attractive and I dont say that to discourage anyone, but I am just telling it the way it is. I dont have time to write everything that I would like to but I guess my advice would be that you are still young and try to work on being charming and your people skills ... I know that being the less attractive one in a group does affect ones self confidence , but try working on being more confident and having personality( I'm not saying that you dont) maybe girls will see that and be more open to you.

I know that is not the best advice.... but it is tough, not to sound repetitive but people are superficial and shallow, and in high school maybe a little tougher but just hang in there, things will geet better.
 
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