Mormonism.

[Dominic Korozya]

This I know, I was once in a situation much like you are. I simply have come out of it already, and you are yet to choose a side.

......(come and join the dark side).

I'll take that as a very paranoid no, lol.

Correct.

Here's one: The Book of Mormon was not divinely inspired

That would explain alot.

 

[Moodshadow]

According to LDS doctrine a person must be baptised in the LDS church for their baptism to be legitimate.

Only the LDS church has the authority to do this. Basically, you have not really been baptised unless you are baptised in the LDS church...

Do you understand this?

Oh, sure. Unless a person is baptized by one having the LDS priesthood, his/her baptism is considered to be of no value because it was not done by proper priesthood authority. This is true regardless of previous religious affiliation. If you join the LDS church, you absolutely must be baptized by Mormon priesthood - no exceptions. And baptisms in any and all other churches are considered insufficient/worthless for the same reason: no proper priesthood authority - no exceptions.

 

[JeffShott]

......(come and join the dark side).

Wouldn't be worth it in the end lol:

Correct.

Ah, gotcha.

That would explain alot.

Indeed it would. Is your mind beginning to change?

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For the lulz:

 

[Dominic Korozya]

Oh, sure. Unless a person is baptized by one having the LDS priesthood, his/her baptism is considered to be of no value because it was not done by proper priesthood authority. This is true regardless of previous religious affiliation. If you join the LDS church, you absolutely must be baptized by Mormon priesthood - no exceptions. And baptisms in any and all other churches are considered insufficient/worthless for the same reason: no proper priesthood authority - no exceptions.

That's it. So basicaly you and I have not statistically actually been baptised yet. The effects of your baptism are therefore just a figment of your imagination.

 

[JeffShott]

That's it. So basicaly you and I have not statistically actually been baptised yet.

You forgot to add, "according to the Mormon Church."

 

[Dominic Korozya]

Wouldn't be worth it in the end lol:

Let that be a lesson to the lot of ya.

Indeed it would. Is your mind beginning to change?

Not just yet....

 

[Dominic Korozya]

You forgot to add, "according to the Mormon Church."

I'll remind you that you are on an LDS forum now, so.... hehe heh...

 

[JeffShott]

I'll remind you that you are on an LDS forum now, so.... hehe heh...

An LDS forum on a Christian website under "Unorthodox Theology".
By the way, "Orthodox" means "right believing" soo.. hehe heh..

 

[Dominic Korozya]

An LDS forum on a Christian website under "Unorthodox Theology".
By the way, "Orthodox" means "right believing" soo.. hehe heh..

(>_<)

 

[JeffShott]

Lol, anyway....

Back to topic.

As of right now, our conversation is at a halt pending the explanations of exaltation, and false BoM North American items.

 

[Dominic Korozya]

Lol, anyway....

Back to topic.

As of right now, our conversation is at a halt pending the explanations of exaltation, and false BoM North American items.

I am still awaiting a response for the answer.

 

[Rescued One]

Joseph was addressing the popular teaching at the time that Jesus was literally begotten by the Holy Ghost in the classical manner.

CFR. And what is the classical manner? I never heard of that.

 

[Rescued One]

So this is what you were talking about. It sounds very extreme doesn't it, yet the LDS church teaches that if you follow what you believe to be good, what you believe to be the word of God, then surely you will not be damned.

There are three different levels of heaven, non-mormons just won't enter the highest level.

Try five levels. The Celestial Kingdom alone has three and only those who go to the highest of those three are considered sons and daughters of God and members of the Church of the Firstborn.

 

[Rescued One]

Not remotely.

They teach the following, speaking of our sacred book known as the Bible:

28 Wherefore, thou seest that after the book hath gone forth through the hands of the great and abominable church, that there are many plain and precious things taken away from the book, which is the book of the Lamb of God.

29 And after these plain and precious things were taken away it goeth forth unto all the nations of the Gentiles; and after it goeth forth unto all the nations of the Gentiles, yea, even across the many waters which thou hast seen with the Gentiles which have gone forth out of captivity, thou seest&#8212;because of the many plain and precious things which have been taken out of the book, which were plain unto the understanding of the children of men, according to the plainness which is in the Lamb of God&#8212;because of these things which are taken away out of the gospel of the Lamb, an exceedingly great many do stumble, yea, insomuch that Satan hath great power over them. Book of Mormon, 1 Nephi 13: 24-29

Imagine claiming that those who read the Bible "because of these things which are taken away out of the gospel of the Lamb, an exceedingly great many do stumble, yea, insomuch that Satan hath great power over them!"

 

[Rescued One]

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[Rescued One]

I have yet to encounter confusion in LDS doctrine. Apparently you were confused, and that's too bad, but there's no purpose served in trying to paint the rest of us that way.

Moodshadow displays no confusion.

 

[Zechariah]

Mormon apostle Bruce McConkie:
"Christ was begotten by an immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers." (Mormon Doctrine, 1966, p. 547)

Somehow I suspect your source did not bother to mention that Bruce R. McConkie also said that teachings denying the virgin birth are utterly and completely apostate and false.

I don't know about you, but for me, that "same way" would be sexual intercourse.

Well maybe for you it would have to be, but then, you're not God, are you?

I don't know about you, but for me, I can't help wonder how people who claim to believe in God, who often insist that all God did was speak and all the incredibly complex and intricate creations within the universe came into existence, can think Him incapable of siring Mary's child without engaging in sexual intercourse with her.

I don't know about you, but I can't help wonder, since even the very elements obey God's command, how is it that some people will say they believe in God, yet think it's impossible that He could place His seed in Mary's womb by a means that would neither violate her chastity or her virtue.

I don't know about you, but that is something I find astounding.

 

[Rescued One]

Mormon apostle Bruce McConkie:
"Christ was begotten by an immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers." (Mormon Doctrine, 1966, p. 547)

I don't know about you, but for me, that "same way" would be sexual intercourse.

When Heavenly Father had intercourse with one of his offspring, the viginity remained intact. That is how it was explained to me.

 

[Rescued One]

I don't know about you, but I can't help wonder, since even the very elements obey God's command, how is it that some people will say they believe in God, yet think it's impossible that He could place His seed in Mary's womb by a means that would neither violate her chastity or her virtue.

If you are speaking of artificial insemination, that is not natural. If you are speaking of literal seed, what is the Father's seed doing inside his daughter?

 

[Rescued One]

Moodshadow,

Do you know about the LDS church baptising people again?

Are you asking if non-LDS baptisms are considered valid? No, they are not. And the mode of baptism as well as the age of the individual are important to LDS. When they baptize, the person must be completely immersed in the water or they will have to do it over again.