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To continue with the "tradition" started by the Spiders thread :)

I wanted to title this thread "ctenophores" or "comb jellies" or something equivalent, but I figured that most people here (myself included) probably don't know enough about ctenophores to devote a whole thread to them like we did with spiders and cephalopods.

So, this is the thread for all of our favourite neglected invertebrates.

My cool invertebrates of the day are, as you may have guessed, ctenophores or comb jellies, which have nothing to do with jellyfish. (See here and here for much better introductions than I could give :))

Ctenophores are relatively poorly studied*, which is a real shame given that they may be one of the most interesting groups of animals with regards to animal phylogeny and evolution. They may be the earliest branching animal phylum, which would mean either that sponges (traditionally considered the most primitive animals) are secondarily simplified, or that ctenophores evolved their complex bodies independently of other animals.

(Although the phylogenetic position of ctenophores is really, really not settled AFAIK. These guys desperately need more love. A genome sequencing project would be awesome. :sigh: A woman can dream...)

Plus, they are also pretty (picture of Mnemiopsis below from tolweb. More ctenophore diversity in pictures here).

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*As of today, 2 pm GMT, [ctenophora OR ctenophore] gives me slightly over 8000 hits in Google Scholar. That is less than a third of the hits (~23k) for [cnidaria OR cnidarian], about 1/19 of the hits for the equivalent search term for arthropods (157k) and only about 1/80 as many as for vertebrates (672k). These are probably underestimates, as I think better-studied groups are less often referred to by the names of such high-level groupings, unless the paper is somehow about vertebrates or arthropods as a whole.
 

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I always thought crinoids looked quite neat. Of course, I also think ragworms have cute lips, so maybe I just have a weird taste :D

Speaking of ragworms, I just had to paste this:

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Found it on a blog called Ugly Overload (What, Nereis, UGLY???), which got it from Alexander Semenov's awesome flickr page.

*****

Cambrian Lagerstätten = height of awesome.

Except when the fish in them are too rotten to interpret ^_^

I just wish more was known about Nectocaris. From what little I know, it seems such an interesting creature, but there's practically no recent literature on it :( (Practically? More like "none at all"...)
 
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You are walking through a forested, perhaps slightly swampy, area. The chirping of insects surrounds you, as does the thickening evening fog. As you make your way through the undergrowth of ferns, you freeze. You heard a movement. A movement of feet. Small insectoid feet. LOTS of them. Coming towards you. As the sun finally sets, you see the leaf strewn floor move.
Suddenly it lunges, then rises from the forest floor, looming 4 feet up, the rest of its body stabilizing itself against you, perhaps ready to strike, a horror from some Stephen King or HP Lovecraft novel....
...and you hope that the scientists hypotheses are correct. You hope that this monstrosity is truly only a vegetarian as it threatens you.
You are now facing what may be the largest land based invertebrate of all time. You now face the terror of ...

 
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You are walking through a forested, perhaps slightly swampy, area. The chirping of insects surrounds you, as does the thickening evening fog. As you make your way through the undergrowth of ferns, you freeze. You heard a movement. A movement of feet. Small insectoid feet. LOTS of them. Coming towards you. As the sun finally sets, you see the leaf strewn floor move.
Suddenly it lunges, then rises from the forest floor, looming 4 feet up, the rest of its body stabilizing itself against you, perhaps ready to strike, a horror from some Stephen King or HP Lovecraft novel....
...and you hope that the scientists hypotheses are correct. You hope that this monstrosity is truly only a vegetarian as it threatens you.
You are now facing what may be the largest land based invertebrate of all time. You now face the terror of ...

Whether it's a herbivore or not, it's not nearly as scary as those gull-sized Carboniferous dragonflies that were its contemporaries. I'd think Arthropleura would be much easier to get away from.

Then again, a gull-sized dragonfly probably wouldn't consider a human prey, and dragonflies aren't venomous. I wouldn't want to meet an Arthropleura-sized centipede, though.
 
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Arthropleura may have been the largest land based arthropod of all time, but the contender for the current largest land based arthropod would still stop me in my tracks.

I give you, Birgus latro, the coconut crab-
Oh. :eek:

Foraminifera -

Thank God for forams. The geologic timescale would be a mess without them.
I gather they gave us some beautiful transitional series, too.
 
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That pic was from my bad side :blush:

I'm Great Cthulu
No
No you are not
And the HP spelling (despite the fact that it is wrong) is Cthulhu or Klulhu
and I approve of this thread.
Even though you aren't me, I agree with the approval of this thread.

Just remember, marshmallow peep, you ain't me :preach:
On a side note- Capt Nemo just irritated me, although Tesla had some...ahem... interesting ideas
 
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And the HP spelling (despite the fact that it is wrong) is Cthulhu or Klulhu

Your name is unprintable by human tongue, I can type it how I want! And get off your high shogoth, you were crippled by a steamship.
 
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I'm Great Cthulu, and I approve of this thread.
That's a good one, but this is still my favorite.

I'm posting a link to the picture rather than the actual picture because it is dark, and you shouldn't look at it unless you're a twisted Lovecraft fan :)

Now if only a Shoggoth could be properly illustrated....
 
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Your name is unprintable by human tongue
True
Unfortunately, humans don't have 6 layers of teeth surrounded by tentacles.
I almost feel for you guys
Almost
I can type it how I want!
Yeah, well when you spell it, say, for example, "Hastur" then we're gonna have a serious talk, peep
And get off your high shogoth, you were crippled by a steamship.
No no no no no!!!
Just slumbering with moments of brief wakefulness.
Like tonight :D

Cthulhu... lame :cool:
Chaeto? Really?
Seaweed.
Yeah, there you go.

Weak 4th cousin's roomates girlfriend's great grandmother's second sister's BFFs.
Although I do appreciate the "tentacle" grotesqueness/awesomeness around it :thumbsup:
 
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