I saw the link for this thread in another and thought it might be good to comment at the outset. Having read this thread I don't think I'll bother - in it are all the ingredients that have made others sell-on CF and we are only up to page 3!
Thanks for sharing Pauler...
IMHO a key ingredient to improve this forum is an actual method to hold Mod's accountable for their actions... the current *suggestion complaint* model is useless in my experience here in multiple issues at different times... I for one have given up any hope of working to change CF for the better... I have chosen to stay for the sake of relationships with good people here, but I have little respect for several in leadership positions here at CF...
I hope that didn't go over the line in *discussing* staff actions, but this is an issue that has been brought up multiple times by multiple people and has not been addressed in any meaningful way to my knowledge yet...
Is there any plan to impliment any changes to bring about real accountability esspecially for the Blue A level staff?
Here...
Ty
Hello Paul,
I think you will have a greater likelihood of seeing your vision become a reality if the top leadership is rotated out and fresh leaders are rotated in. I also believe it will be necessary for you to monitor leadership to insure they are embodying the key points of your vision and reflecting it in their actions.
In order to be fair, wouldn't it be better if hiring is based on merit, hiring from within whenever possible, and not cronyism.
The current leadership has worked hard but the vast majority of leaders in every organization are replaced, transferred, or assigned to other areas to prevent rigid thinking, entrenched attitudes, and tunnelvision. It is unfortunate that during the course of the current leadership's reign, a significant number of staff have quit, others have been fired, large numbers of members have left, and the forum is at one of it's lowest point's since it's inception.
Of course, when a mantra of "if you don't like it here, then leave," is heard fairly regularly, that doesn't really reflect what you want to accomplish with your vision, nor do many other unusual managerial practices I have seen here since I've been a member and on staff such as people reacting with condescending, nasty, holier than thou attitudes toward others on the forum.
I hope that Christ's love will be reflected in the actions of both staff and members. I also hope that the "real problems" on this board are addressed and corrected. God bless everyone.
Good luck.
[my bold emp.]
I had no intention of adding to this thread since every effort I've
made to speak out for change for 2 years not only goes nowhere,
but results in negative action or anger towards me.
But I will second the above posts - and add my concerns about top
mgt. as well.
As to what I bolded in black, this is a quote from one of the "
A"s that I
got yesterday for my input on a thread regarding change at CF:
You've been griping for a long time about CF and how much you dislike it
and how it's run and what it stands for. And yet you never, ever leave.
This is what most hear if they attempt to work to seek change (to
be heard) for a site that is in serious decline on several levels.
Either go along with the program or be dismissed.
One other thing needs to mentioned are the increasing rules that have
been implimented - it's utterly rendered members as
helpless peons.
(*note, I do understand why the need is felt to impliment them, however,
it's gotten out of hand at this level when more keep getting added)
When staff restricts all member discussion of policy, rules, staff action or
any displeasure, we lose ALL ability to be heard or act on anything that is
decided by management. Members are at the utter mercy of upper staff.
We have also been told that we cannot go to the owner with any
of our concerns, we have to go through them (the proper channels).
Ok, but how do you hear anything from us? Do we trust it gets to
you if they feel it's to be dismissed?
As Ty mentioned, posting on "
suggestion" threads goes nowhere
either. It's completely useless when the top wants to do what
they want to do.
If you complain, you get attacked for being a bothersome naysayer.
The frustration over the ever increasing restrictions, regulations
and code of silence have forced many to leave and several I know
to be on the verge of leaving in exasperation.
I have much more detail I could add, but I'm declining to share it
for obvious reasons.
What I emphasised in blue above is what I agree is needed to help
this forum at this point. (not the only thing, but most likely a good
part of it).
thank you for listening and God bless,
Nadine
