Have any of the creationists here done the following?

[AV1611VET]

A person runs into problems when they try to interpret the bible literally. Kind of a contradiction in itself.

Psalm 93 --- Hebrew poetry.

 

[sandwiches]

Indeed they are, but stand in front of one, and you'll get the idea of just how "immovable" they are.

You mean "unstoppable" not "immovable."

Now if something is already moving, it is obviously movable, correct?

 

[Hespera]

Evolution is more fiction than science so maybe it is the "sci" that should be dropped.

I guess really we should call religion Bi-fi. There is no science in it at all. No reality either.

But since "evolution is fiction" why dont you make yourself famous by disproving it? Dont be modest. At least tell me the secret so I can make myself famous.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Not that AV ever would, but I think he just admitted you can't take Psalms literal.

 

[sandwiches]

Evolution is more fiction than science so maybe it is the "sci" that should be dropped.

Do you really believe that evolution was fabricated with no basis in reality?

 

[AV1611VET]

You mean "unstoppable" not "immovable."

Now if something is already moving, it is obviously movable, correct?

No, I mean "immovable".

I'm not talking about stopping a train by standing in front of it.

I'm talking about altering it on its course.

In other words, the earth cannot be moved out of its orbit --- nor can its rotation be slowed.

 

[rosenherman]

The Bible also says that to God a day is like a year and a year is like a day so that His 6 days could very well have been several billion years.

 

[sandwiches]

No, I mean "immovable".

I'm not talking about stopping a train by standing in front of it.

I'm talking about altering it on its course.

In other words, the earth cannot be moved out of its orbit --- nor can its rotation be slowed.

Then, let's be more precise: The Earth's vector and orbit is unalterable is what you're saying. Of course that's not what I'm asking.

So, again, the earth is moving, yes?

 

[AV1611VET]

The Bible also says that to God a day is like a year and a year is like a day so that His 6 days could very well have been several billion years.

So angiosperms flourished in the dark for several billion years?

 

[AV1611VET]

Then, let's be more precise: The Earth's vector and orbit is unalterable is what you're saying. Of course that's not what I'm asking.

Yes --- if I remember my formulas right, Conservation of Angular Momentum, as it applies to planets in orbit is mass x velocity x radius of the orbit.

This is why the earth slows down @ perihelion, to compensate for the longer radius.

And it speeds up @ aphelion to compensate for the shorter radius.

Since the mass doesn't change, the velocity changes to compensate.

So, again, the earth is moving, yes?

Yes.

 

[sandwiches]

Yes --- if I remember my formulas right, Conservation of Angular Momentum, as it applies to planets in orbit is mass x velocity x radius of the orbit.

This is why the earth slows down @ perihelion, to compensate for the longer radius.

And it speeds up @ aphelion to compensate for the shorter radius.

Since the mass doesn't change, the velocity changes to compensate.

Yes.

Now, the Earth's vector can be affected by a meteor, comet, or other celestial body of sufficient mass, correct?

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

No, I mean "immovable".

I'm not talking about stopping a train by standing in front of it.

I'm talking about altering it on its course.

In other words, the earth cannot be moved out of its orbit --- nor can its rotation be slowed.

This is false. Indeed earth has been hit in the past and its rotation altered.

 

[AV1611VET]

Now, the Earth's vector can be affected by a meteor, comet, or other celestial body of sufficient mass, correct?

Not that I know of --- not according to Psalm 93:1.

 

[AV1611VET]

This is false. Indeed earth has been hit in the past and its rotation altered.

You were there?

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

You were there?

Where?

 

[AV1611VET]

Where?

On earth --- at the point of impact.

 

[jpcedotal]

I guess really we should call religion Bi-fi. There is no science in it at all. No reality either.

But since "evolution is fiction" why dont you make yourself famous by disproving it? Dont be modest. At least tell me the secret so I can make myself famous.

I don't have to disprove something that hasn't been proven.

 

[jpcedotal]

The Bible also says that to God a day is like a year and a year is like a day so that His 6 days could very well have been several billion years.

no that is taken out of context

 

[sandwiches]

Not that I know of --- not according to Psalm 93:1.

From dictionary.com:

"1. Incapable of being moved; firmly fixed; fast; -- used of material things; as, an immovable foundatin. Immovable, infixed, and frozen round. --Milton.
2. Steadfast; fixed; unalterable; unchangeable; -- used of the mind or will; as, an immovable purpose, or a man who remain immovable.
3. Not capable of being affected or moved in feeling or by sympathy; unimpressible; impassive. --Dryden."
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So, your definition of immovable is not that of the English language?

 

[sandwiches]

On earth --- at the point of impact.

Do we have to have been there for us to have evidence of it having happened?