Hi Ezek33, Brother In Christ and Hismessenger:
The right answer to Onwing’s OP Topic was presented in
Post #6 and
Post #9 almost a year ago and all I see on the last two pages is more one-liner drivel from CF.com members without one clue. Seriously guys: If all you can add is one sentence of nothing, then wisdom says to remain silent and appear wise to somebody.
Proverb 17:28. The pre, midweek and post Tribulation Rapture interpretations are
ALL WRONG by the same 1000 Years contained inside the
“Day of the Lord” itself. And “no,” this topic does NOT belong in the Eschatology Forum (Holdon in
Post #10), because our Mystery (
1Cor. 15:51-53) Rapture (
1Thes. 4:15-17) takes place 1000 Years
BEFORE the END of the Age events of Matthew 24 like this:
Your Bible is laid out according to this Prophecy/Mystery Timeline ‘and’ a map of the triune Tabernacle of Moses and the Temple (
diagram = Fig 2). You have
4000 years from Adam’s fall (
Gen. 3:21) to the end of the Old Testament when God began fulfilling His promises to Israel of the flesh by offering the
“Gospel of the Kingdom” (
Gospel #1) through which
Peter’s Early Rains ‘Bride’ (
Church #1) was gathered some 2000 years ago. Find
‘Today’ on the timeline to realize we are living near the END of the
“2000 Year Mystery Time” that the OT prophets were
NOT allowed to see ‘and’ that
our mystery rapture BEGINS the upcoming 1000 Year Day of the Lord shown here also in blue:
Find
“Today” again to realize the
“First Resurrection” is about to take place with our mystery rapture to
‘start’ the 1000 Year Day of the Lord. This marks the time that Elijah returns to restore
‘all things’ (
Matt. 17:10-11) as the
‘prophet’ of
Acts 3:22-23, which includes the
‘Tabernacle of David’ (
Acts 15:16-18) once our
‘Body of Christ’ is taken to assume the heavenly seats vacated by Satan’s chaining (
Rev. 20:2 =
Rev. 1:10). We rule with Christ IN HEAVEN for the entire 1000 Year Day of the Lord (Rev. 1-20), until
we return with Him in glory (
Col. 3:4) at the
END of the Age still 1000 Years in the future. Those of you GUILTY of breaking down the
‘First Veil’ of God’s Living Word (
pic) have mixed
Kingdom Doctrine (
diagram* = water witness in blue) and
Grace Doctrine (blood witness in red*) together and now cannot distinguish between the
END of this
2000 Year Mystery Time ‘and’ the
END of the Age still 1000 Years away in the future. Now let’s address some of the one-liner statements being passed back and forth on this already-killed Topic:
I agree totally, the witnesses are killed at the end of the trib not the middle and the rapture is post trib
Nonsense! While the Two Witnesses (Rev. 11 = Adam/Elijah and Eve/Moses) are killed and raised up very near the
END of the Age, our mystery rapture (1Thes. 4:15-17)
‘started’ the 1000 Year Day of the Lord just about 1000 years EARLIER. :0) Paul is describing how the 1000 Year Day of the Lord
BEGINS (comes =
2Thes. 2:1-2), while Christ (Matt. 24) and John (Revelation 4-20) and Peter (
2Peter 3:8-12) are describing how the same 1000 Year Period
ENDS. You guys are mixing together things that God Himself has separated, which is common among those blinded by the
‘deluding influence’ (
2Thes. 2:10-12) teaching the dogma of their manmade Denominationalism. Post #’s 132 – 134 represent nothing but this Topic being transformed into your private chit-chat room, as if the private messaging system is broken. Then we see more vain babbling from Hismessenger and Brother In Christ in Post #135-140. Then we see more unsupported opinion from Hismessenger in Post #141 using no Scripture, but perhaps we can quote that and allow these readers some benefit by applying
‘the truth’ of God’s Living Word with
the ‘right’ interpretation:
There ARE two resurrections, not three as the pre trib rapture doctrine would have you to believe.
The ‘two’ resurrections
‘start’ (1Thes. 4:15-17) and
‘end’ (Rev. 20:11-15) the
1000 Year Day of the Lord where ‘our’ mystery translation to immortality (1Cor. 15:51-53) marks
the ‘first’ resurrection.’ Since the pre, midweek and post Tribulation Rapture interpretations are
all DEAD WRONG, then basing your assumptions on errant explanations is throwing effort after foolishness. Any Rapture explanation connected to the
“Great Tribulation” (
Matt. 24:21 =
Rev. 7:14-16) is OFF by the same
1000 Years contained
within the “Day of the Lord” itself that has a
‘beginning’ AND an ‘end’ some 1000 years LATER.
The first occurs after the two witnesses are killed for their testimony and then resurrected to eternal life.
Nonsense! These two witnesses (Rev. 11) appear at the
END of the Age and just about 1000 Years ‘after’ our mystery Rapture ‘starts’ the 1000 Year Day of the Lord. The
1000 Year Day of the Lord (
diagram) starts with our mystery rapture (left) and ends 1000 years later when we return with Christ in glory (Col. 3:4) at the
END of the Age over on the far right. This means the 1000 Year Day of the Lord is contained within
the first three chapters of Revelation with the final END of the Age events (Matt. 24:3-31) retold from various perspectives in Revelation 4-20. Our
mystery trumpet (1Cor. 15:52, 1Thes. 4:16) sounds off
‘behind’ John in Revelation 1:10, when Satan and all the members of his evil body are
‘chained’ (Rev. 20:2) to
START the 1000 Year Day of the Lord right here in Revelation 1!!! Our mystery
‘Body of Christ’ appears before John in
Revelation 1:10-19, as we rule with the Lamb IN HEAVEN for
the entire 1000 Year Day of the Lord ‘and’ while
‘David himself’ (
Eze. 34:23-25) rules on the earth in the
Kingdom of God “on earth AS IT IS in heaven.”
This is the first resurrection there is no other before this.
Wrong! :0) We are raised up to put on
immortality (1Cor. 15:51-53) some 1000 Years ‘before’ these two witnesses are ever sent by God very near the
END of the Age.
They are taken up in a cloud to be with Christ for the thousand year reign.
No. By this time (Rev. 11), the
1000 Year Day of the Lord is almost OVER and
‘we’ (Body of Christ) have already been with the Lamb in the
‘center of the throne’ (
Rev. 7:17) for just about 1000 years.
The rest of the dead remain in their graves until this thousand years is complete. Is this so hard to understand for it is written clearly in the word.
No. There is no such thing as
what is ‘clearly’ written in God’s Living Word, because every syllable requires the
‘rightly divided’ (
2Tim. 2:15) ‘interpretation’ in the form of our explanation. This is especially true when the
‘deluding influence’ is forcing people to
‘believe what is false’ (
2Thes. 2:11) and the
‘servants of righteousness’ serving their
‘angel of light’ are strutting around this CF.com Forum with kabillions in Reps (
heh) and without one clue as to what they are even talking about.
Then comes the second resurrection to judgment. Some to eternal life and others to eternal death. Two different resurrections but not any pre trib resurrection as preached. It is a fable and false doctrine.
And yet, the
‘pre-tribulation’ Rapture of our ‘mystery’ church is 100 Percent Truth, when you allow
the ‘pre’ prefix to make reference to the
1000 Years contained within the
Day of the Lord itself! :0) Those of you trying to affix ‘our’ mystery translation to immortality to the
END of the Age events of Matthew 24 are ALL OFF by the same 1000 Years contained inside the 1000 Year Day of the Lord, because what Peter teaches in
2Peter 3:8 has escaped your notice . . .
I cannot agree with this do you believe the rapture is post millennial? and if so what do you do with Revelation 20:4-6?
Revelation 20 is
an ‘overview’ of the entire 1000 Year Day of the Lord from the devil’s perspective where his
‘chaining’ (Rev. 20:2) actually takes place way back in
Revelation 1:10 with the
‘voice of the archangel’ (1Thes. 4:16)
‘starting’ the 1000 Year Day of the Lord (in blue
here) that
‘ends’ here in Revelation 20. Peter, John and James with their Early Rains Kingdom ‘Bride’ are raised up with us (
diagram = in blue) to
rule with Christ on
thrones judging ‘Israel’ (
Luke 22:30) for the 1000 Years spanning Revelation 1-3 (
pic). Our mystery Body of Christ is
“IN” the Lamb in the
‘center of the throne’ from all the way back in Revelation 1, while Peter and the Kingdom Bride reigns
‘with’ the Lamb from the
‘sea of glass’ (
Rev. 4:6, 15:2), singing the
‘son of Moses/Eve,’ very much
‘before the throne’ having yet to be found IN Christ Jesus (like us). Many people commonly misinterpret the truth right out of Revelation 20:4-6 to invent their own 1000 Year Temporary Kingdom where Jesus Christ rules on this earth (the LIE = Christ's Throne is HEAVEN =
my thread), when the Lamb is in
‘Heaven’ throughout Revelation. I am,
In Christ Jesus even now,
Terral