Rabbis...

[Remy Sheppard]

I was, for a long time, looking for a rabbi to mentor me. I could never find one, even among the christian Rabbis that taught and believed in Jesus. Why, do you think?

 

[ChavaK]

I was, for a long time, looking for a rabbi to mentor me. I could never find one, even among the christian Rabbis that taught and believed in Jesus. Why, do you think?

Jewish rabbis would not generally have an interest in teaching non-Jews
as they have limited time and need to spend it working with Jews.

Christian educators may also have time constraints and may not be
able to do one on one teaching. Have you tried to find classes with
them that you can sign up for?

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[Eben Abram]

I was, for a long time, looking for a rabbi to mentor me. I could never find one, even among the christian Rabbis that taught and believed in Jesus. Why, do you think?

Where you straight up with them?

Eben Abram

 

[Eben Abram]

I was, for a long time, looking for a rabbi to mentor me. I could never find one, even among the christian Rabbis that taught and believed in Jesus. Why, do you think?

The reason I ask:

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"I think two loving gay parents from a financially stable background
beats the hell out of Kevin Federline and Britany Spears any day."
-Jon Stewart


Everyone seems to making a hot fuss about gay marriage and should it be legal and how would the constitution define gay marriage and this and that and the gay agenda and watch out for the homos that will come and rob your home. I wish everyone would shut up. This is not a big deal. Marriage is not a state issue and I'm not quite sure why we are so hell-bent on making it one. For those of you that managed to find this page, kudos. Read on and become educated.
Gay marriage is not a state issue. Marriage is not a state issue. But see, it scares people because it's a rapidly evolving issue, as Jon Stewart managed to point out. Somehow. Over the years, race was an issue for marriage (back in Noah's day), polygamy for the mormons (admit it, we all know), and now: The gays! See, it's such a touchy issue, and everyone wants to run to their government. The problem with that is that the government is all men, just like you and me. Men prone to err all the time. I say we all turn towards God! Let him be the judge, let him decide. I propose that churches are the only places allowed to give out marriage certificates and marry people. Marriage is a religious issue, not a state one. Lets eliminate the court's ability to marry people. The church can then decide who to marry. If your church wont marry you to another man/woman, or wont marry you to more than one woman, find a church that will! This is America! Surely there is a church somewhere that will let you marry a deer! In the end, let's make marriage a religious issue and not a state issue, and then all the bickering and arguing and voting and old-lady trampling can all just stop.


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(Eben below)

As to me personally, I have no problem, I have been involved with people others would not, and I am not afraid to go anywhere at anytime in any culture, lol, but as this WAS your a part of your site, I did notice you took your site down, I might see why some others might not be available.

More information might help and you may find that most Jews have gotten into anything and everything you can imagine and some, have decided on differing expressions of Faith.

As a Jew albeit a Messianic Jew, I wish I wish I could say I had less experience in the many areas of life, but I might be able to comprehend where or what you are at. Maybe.

I assume you had a question or a direction when you were looking for the "mentor" aspect of Rabbi's, but I can say this, while I have sat at the feet of many teachers, I thank G-d I had no mentors, but I did meet alot of Biggies LOL..........

People I think in Westen culture and most certainly in Modern America forget what a Pastor or a Rabbi was supposed to be, and certainly after getting a good couple a hundred years of awe and power, they aren't going to get off the pedastal too soon, so if you are looking for Rabbi's good luck, if you are being led to learn, you will.

If you ever heard of Keith Green, since you are a musician, he was tough, but they say as far as mentoring, he was awesome.

ALecheim Shalom

Eben Abram

 

[stone]

I was, for a long time, looking for a rabbi to mentor me. I could never find one, even among the christian Rabbis that taught and believed in Jesus. Why, do you think?

sounds like your not looking in the right places. I know of many a messianic rabbi with online courses.

these guys could help

 

[zaksmummy]

When I think of mentors I always think of this quote from a film

"When the pupil is ready, the master will appear"

Keep praying, and one will arrive.

 

[Eben Abram]

Then said a teacher, "Speak to us of Teaching."


And he said:


No man can reveal to you aught but that which already lies half asleep in the dawning of our knowledge.


The teacher who walks in the shadow of the temple, among his followers, gives not of his wisdom but rather of his faith and his lovingness.


If he is indeed wise he does not bid you enter the house of wisdom, but rather leads you to the threshold of your own mind.


The astronomer may speak to you of his understanding of space, but he cannot give you his understanding.


The musician may sing to you of the rhythm which is in all space, but he cannot give you the ear which arrests the rhythm nor the voice that echoes it.


And he who is versed in the science of numbers can tell of the regions of weight and measure, but he cannot conduct you thither.



For the vision of one man lends not its wings to another man.


And even as each one of you stands alone in God's knowledge, so must each one of you be alone in his knowledge of God and in his understanding of the earth.


Kahlil Gibran

 

[Sphinx777]

Rabbi (pronunciation: [rəb.biː], although in English usually [ˈɹæ.baɪ]), in Judaism, means a religious ‘teacher’, or more literally, ‘my great one’, when addressing any master. The word rabbi derives from the Hebrew root word רַב, rav, which in biblical Hebrew means ‘great’, used in many senses, including the sense of a ‘master’ and apprentice, whence someone who is a distinguished ‘teacher’. Sephardic and Yemenite Jews pronounce this word רִבִּי ribbī; the modern Israeli pronunciation רַבִּי rabbī is derived from a recent (18th century) innovation in Ashkenazic prayer books, although this vocalization is also found in some ancient sources. Other varieties of pronunciation are rəvī, rubbī, and, in Yiddish, rebbə.

Originally in Hebrew, rabbi (‘my Master&#8217 was a proper term of address while speaking to a superior, in the second person similar to a vocative case. While speaking about a superior, in the third person, one could say Ha-Rav (‘the Master&#8217 or Rabbo (‘his Master&#8217. Later, the term evolved into a formal title for members of the Patriarchate, where it no longer means ‘my’ Master. Thus, the title gained an irregular plural form: רַבָּנִים Rabbanim (‘rabbis&#8217, and not רַבָּי Rabbai (‘my Masters&#8217.

The word comes from the Semitic root R-B-B, and is cognate to Arabic ربّ rabb, meaning "lord" (generally used when talking about God, but also about temporal lords as well).

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[Remy Sheppard]

1: I changed my hair and facial hair dramatically to look more professional (and cute for a chica lol)

2: I am way more mature than that last sentence made me look

3: I wanted a mentor, I realize that Rabbis dont pick just anyone and I see why they wouldn't pick me. As far as online stuff goes: I want to actually be mentored.

4: Thank you all for your help and insight. Think any of you would want to teach me Hebrew? please?

 

[Sphinx777]

4: Thank you all for your help and insight. Think any of you would want to teach me Hebrew? please?

Hebrew (עִבְרִית, ‘Ivrit) is a Semitic language of the Afro-Asiatic language family. Modern Hebrew is spoken by more than seven million people in Israel and used for prayer or study in Jewish communities around the world. It is the official language of Israel, though English and Arabic are also used there. Hebrew is also spoken as a mother tongue by the Samaritans, though today fewer than a thousand Samaritans remain. As a foreign language it is studied mostly by Jews and students of Judaism and Israel, archaeologists and linguists specializing in the Middle East and its civilizations and by theologians.

The modern word "Hebrew" is derived from the word "ivri" which in turn may be based upon the root "`avar" (עב&#1512 meaning "to cross over". The related name Ever occurs in Genesis 10:21 and possibly means "the one who traverses". In the Bible "Hebrew" is called Yehudith (יהודי&#1514 because Judah (Yehuda) was the surviving kingdom at the time of the quotation, late 8th century (Is 36, 2 Kings 18). In Isaiah 19:18, it is also called the "Language of Canaan" (שְׂפַת כְּנַעַ&#1503.

The core of the Tanakh (the Hebrew Bible) is written in Classical Hebrew, and much of its present form is specifically the dialect of Biblical Hebrew that scholars believe flourished around the 6th century BCE, around the time of the Babylonian exile. For this reason, Hebrew has been referred to by Jews as Leshon HaKodesh (לשון הקוד&#1513, "The Holy Language", since ancient times.

 

[visionary]

Where do you live?... it would hel for us to know that .. then we could maybe find a person living within your area that might be able to help.

 

[Remy Sheppard]

Phoenix, Arizona

 

[anisavta]

1: I changed my hair and facial hair dramatically to look more professional (and cute for a chica lol)

2: I am way more mature than that last sentence made me look

3: I wanted a mentor, I realize that Rabbis dont pick just anyone and I see why they wouldn't pick me. As far as online stuff goes: I want to actually be mentored.

4: Thank you all for your help and insight. Think any of you would want to teach me Hebrew? please?

I't a start but have you checked out the Classic Hebrew thread here? There are lessons.

 

[Eben Abram]

Shalom ALecheim

I recommend this site, and more than that I highly recommend the person as not only is He a Jew, but he also attenda a Church AND is a part of Messianic Org and Cong.

My opine not my theology, but my opinion is that all Jews, albeit Messianic Jews should be in some way enjoying shabbes and if they desire to be a part of a Quality Messianic Cong, do so on Saturday and ALSO be a part on Sunday of a Church or a ministry in Christendom for the Bride should have many friends of the Bridegroom IN the bridal party....

But here is a great place to study:

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/index.html

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, "few and evil have been the days of the years of my life," and so it sometimes seems for me as well. Now Jacob was 130 years old when he spoke these words to Pharaoh, and my relatively short life span cannot begin to compare with his, but nonetheless the seemingly wayward "days of the years of my life" have likewise yielded a profoundly difficult lesson about an extraordinarily joyful subject -- namely, the unrelenting grace and irrepressible love of the Lord God of Israel, especially as revealed in the life of Yeshua (Jesus), the Jewish Messiah and Son of God.​

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Though this isn't the place to give you my testimony about how I experienced the miracle of teshuvah (a changed life), you should perhaps know that I once studied philosophy in college and graduate school (I am still recovering from that), and that I also attended theology school (from which I am also recovering). I have studied Hebrew and lived Jewish culture for many years now, both formally and informally, and it's my hope to share some of my learning and experience with you here.

I am not some self-styled "expert" in Biblical Hebrew, however, and I do not have a PhD in Semitic languages or earn my income teaching Hebrew at a university. No, despite taking various classes in the subject (at Talmud Torah and other places), I have worked my way through the language over the years, attempting to live out its implications (that is critical), and trusting in the Lord to reveal to me the spiritual meaning of His word. After all, language (even divinely inspired language) is ultimately a means to something else, and it is that other thing that we must seek. το γαρ γραμμα αποκτεννει, το δε πνευμα ζωοποιει: "for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life" (2 Cor 3:6). May you find that Life that is forever speaking the word of hope!

A few other things about me might be in order here. I have been writing the monthly "Hebrew Lesson" column for the Zola Levitt Ministries newsletter for over eight years now (though this ministry is not directly associated with ZLM). In case you are interested in reading these, you click here to receive them FREE of charge.

I have been affiliated with some Messianic congregations in the Twin Cities, but I regularly attend a local Church in the Minneapolis, Minnesota area. We are currently praying about starting a grace-based Messianic chavurah (fellowship) in the Twin Cities area.

My wife's name is Olga, and we had our first child, Josiah Yisroel, on October 7th, 2004, B"H (we are expecting our second son in March, 2009). Both Olga and Josiah have been further gifts of the unsearchable chesed and love of God to me.

So why this site?

This web site is intended to provide a resource to the Church regarding its rich Hebraic heritage by promoting Jewish literacy among all those who claim Jesus Christ as their Lord. I believe this is important today for many reasons, but especially because many people in the church today are unaware of the inherent Jewishness of their heritage, and sadly this reflects in many misinterpretations regarding the Scriptures. Remember: Jesus was (and is) a Jew, and to be a follower of Him implies learning about the Jewish people -- their culture, their language, and their way of understanding the Scriptures. Moreover, in the olam habah, the world to come, we will all give homage to a Jewish Lord and Jewish Savior! Why not get a head start and begin learning the "language of the kingdom?"

Studying biblical Hebrew and your Jewish heritage will give you the correct context for reading the B'rit Chadashah (New Testament) by equipping you to comprehend the implications of the Tanakh (Old Testament). You will begin to better understand the Hebraic mindset that informs all the New Testament writings, avoiding exegetical errors that distort the original intent of the authors of the Holy Scriptures.

To help you get started, explore the hundreds of pages on this web site. You might also want to take a look at the book I wrote for Zola Levitt Ministries entitled, Zola's Introduction to Hebrew (also called Ivrit Lematchilim) I have looked at dozens of Hebrew "primers," but I earnestly believe that this resource is the best available for Christian adults to begin learning about the mystery and beauty of the Hebrew language. To further your education of the Jewish roots of your faith, please consider my more recent book, A Year Through the Torah.

Above all, my hope is that this effort of mine will bless you and help you in some way. As I alluded to at the top of this page, my life has been a difficult journey in the way of trusting in the love of G-d as revealed in the face of Jesus (2 Cor 4:6). The L-rd G-d of Israel is faithful and good, and I sincerely pray that you will find great comfort and encouragement as you attend to those things that matter most in your own sojourn here on earth.

Kol tuv, chaverim...


I wish you well, as I read your post, as I also read your deleted web page, and as I read your 1-4, I personally do recommend you get one to one with someone and commit to a group for short commitments.

Like You Find a group and you say, for three months, right or wrong, I will listen. Then at the end of that, you either re-commit yourself or not and the beauty of it si no one knows but you and G-d.

If it's just hebrew you want, well, I would get a Rosetta Stone bought or on the Web and it can help your entonation. As far as really knowing what it is your seeking, till you open up, you will never get the response you are expecting...........

Eben Abram

 

[simchat_torah]

even among the christian Rabbis that taught and believed in Jesus.

You won't find one of these. I looked for years, they were all liars. Sad but true.

 

[visionary]

You won't find one of these. I looked for years, they were all liars. Sad but true.

What about these rabbis..


http://www.ourrabbis.org/main/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/

http://omjra.org/

Have you meet with any members? Do you know for sure whether or not their blood is pure? Are you sure that there is not one 'true Jew" in the bunch?


Messianic Judaism is and should continue to develop as a Judaism, within the Jewish world, for the Jewish world, following the example of Yeshua, our righteous Messiah and responding to Torah daily.

I know that the founding of Messianic yeshivot and graduate schools take time, effort and money, but sadly the issue is not even considered by many in our movement that we need these educational institutions. This is the great opportunity we have in building up Messianic Jewish Theological Institute for the training of the next generation of Messianic Rabbis and Scholars. For our leaders to stand under the title "Rabbi" they must be knowledgeable in the Torah, Rabbinics, Hebrew and Jewish Studies.

 

[simchat_torah]

Have you meet with any members? Do you know for sure whether or not their blood is pure? Are you sure that there is not one 'true Jew" in the bunch?

Sorry Visionary... I'm not going to chase down every rabbit trail these days. I left behind MJ'ism years ago. And while I was captured up in that movement for longer than most anyone I know, I never once found a Rabbi who was certified through a Yeshivah who now believes Jesus is the messiah.

Not one. Ever.

 

[simchat_torah]

Let me clarify Visionary...
Sure, you might have a pastor who received doctrination from a seminary who has Jewish ancestory. But you will not find a Jewish Rabbi who received simcha from a Yeshivah in the Messianic circles. Rabbi does NOT mean someone who is/was Jewish and now follows MJ'ism. Rabbi is someone who was certified with a simcha at a Yeshivah.

So while you point to a number of Christians who discovered Jewish ancestory and now are pastors... this is NOT what I'm referring to. I'm referring to Rabbis, which by definition must be someone who received their simcha from a Yeshivah. Any other use of the word Rabbi is just deceptive. One who is a pastor and travels around and calls themselves a Rabbi is only fooling the audience. Just like McCain can't go around the country and call himself president elect, he did not recieve proper certification to use that title.

In all my years in MJ'ism, I never once found a "Rabbi" who taught in Messianic circles. Sure, many used the title, but it was not honest.

As hard, and long, and wide as Remy Sheppard searches, they will most likely never find a Messianic Rabbi. They will certainly find those deceptively using the title, but they probably won't ever find an actual legit Rabbi who espouses Messianic beliefs.

 

[visionary]

Let me clarify Visionary...
Sure, you might have a pastor who received doctrination from a seminary who has Jewish ancestory. But you will not find a Jewish Rabbi who received simcha from a Yeshivah in the Messianic circles. Rabbi does NOT mean someone who is/was Jewish and now follows MJ'ism. Rabbi is someone who was certified with a simcha at a Yeshivah.

So while you point to a number of Christians who discovered Jewish ancestory and now are pastors... this is NOT what I'm referring to. I'm referring to Rabbis, which by definition must be someone who received their simcha from a Yeshivah. Any other use of the word Rabbi is just deceptive. One who is a pastor and travels around and calls themselves a Rabbi is only fooling the audience. Just like McCain can't go around the country and call himself president elect, he did not recieve proper certification to use that title.

In all my years in MJ'ism, I never once found a "Rabbi" who taught in Messianic circles. Sure, many used the title, but it was not honest.

As hard, and long, and wide as Remy Sheppard searches, they will most likely never find a Messianic Rabbi. They will certainly find those deceptively using the title, but they probably won't ever find an actual legit Rabbi who espouses Messianic beliefs.

I will see what I can find out.

 

[simchat_torah]

I will see what I can find out.

No thanks. I spent nearly a decade searching, and I'm no longer interested.

I'm merely warning others who are going to start that endeavor that they will most likely not find it either.

You might find something you're happy with, maybe a pastor who calls himself a Rabbi. But you probably won't ever find a Rabbi who now preaches Jesus.