Pope: Saving world from homosexuality like saving rainforests

[morningstar2651]

Okay, I got lost somewhere in this thread...about the time homosexuality was compared to alcoholism.

Seriously? It's like excessive boozing?

I fail to see the connection.

http://recipes.howstuffworks.com/alcohol5.htm

I'd rather someone be gay than be an alcoholic. My grandfather practically drank himself to death. He continued to drink as his liver shut down.

 

[CreedIsChrist]

Look up per-capita.

Well geez, do you think maybe it has to do with places and new York city, downtown L.A, and Hollywood having the highest population densitys in all of North America as well as being the leading media and economic centers or America and even the World? People who live in such an expensive area with extremely high rental and home prices will naturally have to have higher income.

 

[Nihilismus]

So let's recap: homosexuality is bad because the Democrats supported slavery?

 

[ChaliceThunder]

Then why discriminate against the Christians who view homosexual marriage as wrong? Why discount their beliefs?

Wait a minute.

How are you being discriminated against?
What rights are being taken away from you?
How are you being harmed in ANY WAY??

 

[angellica]

Wait a minute.

How are you being discriminated against?
What rights are being taken away from you?
How are you being harmed in ANY WAY??

As in why favor the homosexual definition of marriage vs. the Christian definition of it?

 

[angellica]

Okay, I got lost somewhere in this thread...about the time homosexuality was compared to alcoholism.

Seriously? It's like excessive boozing?

I fail to see the connection.

http://recipes.howstuffworks.com/alcohol5.htm

I'd rather someone be gay than be an alcoholic. My grandfather practically drank himself to death. He continued to drink as his liver shut down.

Compared as in genetic pre-disposition + environment/nurture causes alcoholism and being gay.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

I have, both in the OT and NT and he condemns same-sex sex. There's no amount of twisting or trying to justify it than can change its meaning.

You are quite simply in error.
But don't be mad. It's just tough love.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

As in why favor the homosexual definition of marriage vs. the Christian definition of it?

Marriage is a secular not religious contract between two people.

 

[morningstar2651]

Wait a minute.

How are you being discriminated against?
What rights are being taken away from you?
How are you being harmed in ANY WAY??

What about that list of 1,000+ rights being denied to same sex couples because gays are icky?

Oh...wait...we straight people aren't being denied those rights.

Nevermind.

 

[angellica]

That is outrageous. It is not the same right, and you are dishonest at best to make this claim. You have the right to marry the person you love. We do not share that right, yet.

No, I have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex. I do not have the right to marry a family member, even if I love them. I do not have the right to marry a friend of the same sex, even if I love them.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Compared as in genetic pre-disposition + environment/nurture causes alcoholism and being gay.

You get my vote.

What do you think of our brother Benedict?

I should change my name here to Pope Benedict_fan.

 

[angellica]

You are quite simply in error.
But don't be mad. It's just tough love.

Show me where He speaks of homosexual activity as being moral or okay or not a sin.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

No, I have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex. I do not have the right to marry a family member, even if I love them. I do not have the right to marry a friend of the same sex, even if I love them.

Actually in some places you have the right to do either one you prefer.

 

[angellica]

You get my vote.

What do you think of our brother Benedict?

I should change my name here to Pope Benedict_fan.

I'm very glad he's taking a stand for what he believes in .

 

[WatersMoon110]

No, I have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex. I do not have the right to marry a family member, even if I love them. I do not have the right to marry a friend of the same sex, even if I love them.

And if same sex marriage was legal, you could marry your friend.

So do you think that it was fair that the ancient Romans outlawed Christianity, because the Christians were free to worship the Caesar and the Roman gods just like everyone else?

 

[OphidiaPhile]

Show me where He speaks of homosexual activity as being moral or okay or not a sin.

Show me where we get to deny people their rights based on a book written before modern civilization and a book that steals pieces from almost every religion before it. The bible does not give you the right to deny me or anyone else of their rights.

 

[angellica]

What about that list of 1,000+ rights being denied to same sex couples because gays are icky?

Oh...wait...we straight people aren't being denied those rights.

Nevermind.

I thought they wanted to get married because of their "love" for each other, not for insurance.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

As in why favor the homosexual definition of marriage vs. the Christian definition of it?

As in:
Wait a minute.

How are you being discriminated against?
What rights are being taken away from you?
How are you being harmed in ANY WAY??

 

[morningstar2651]

As in why favor the homosexual definition of marriage vs. the Christian definition of it?

Indeed. Why not favor an Islamic definition or a Hindu definition instead?

Well, I guess the first amendment might be a good reason to ignore the religious definitions in favor of a secular definition.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

I thought they wanted to get married because of their "love" for each other, not for insurance.

And with that marriage comes benefits, you get them so should everyone else.