Abortion is Murder.

[Ave Maria]

Very astute. It is a very responsible position for the woman to take.

I'm not sure what you mean Texas Lynn. Could you please explain?

So is not convenient so lets just kill the baby? What is the baby guilty off?

Nobody ever said the fetus was killed out of convenience either. And the fetus is obviously guilty of nothing.

 

[Ave Maria]

Look, I'll admit to you both that I am not the best person at defending the pro-choice viewpoint. So if I have not been the best at defending it, you'll both have to forgive me.

 

[Hentenza]

Nobody ever said the fetus was killed out of convenience either. And the fetus is obviously guilty of nothing.

Yes, the fetus is not guilty regarding the promiscuity of the mother. The whole point here is one of accountability. There is no reason to kill a fetus just because the mother decided to have a good time one night. This is what the majority of abortions are about. The mother has to be accountable for her actions. Abortion is not birth control.

 

[Ave Maria]

Yes, the fetus is not guilty regarding the promiscuity of the mother. The whole point here is one of accountability. There is no reason to kill a fetus just because the mother decided to have a good time one night. This is what the majority of abortions are about. The mother has to be accountable for her actions. Abortion is not birth control.

You are right that the fetus is not guilty regarding any promiscuity of the mother. However, not every mother who gets an abortion is guilty of promiscuity. That said, I have changed my stance on abortion and I agree with you now. Abortion is indeed murder. Please forgive me for defending the pro-abortion viewpoint in the past.

 

[drstevej]

That's poetry. When Robert Burns wrote "My luve's like a red, red rose" he did not mean she had crimson petals and thorns either.

And as with any poetry the point is to determine the literal content expressed figuratively.

You wove me in my mother's womb uses weaving as a metaphor for His personal involvement in the development process which is precisely what is stated in the parallel phrase: You formed my inward parts.

Figurative language does not negate a literal truth. Doesn't take a PhD in literature to understand the passage.

Give me a literal rendering of this figure, TL. It doesn't say, you were a piece of tissue, nothing more.

 

[Trashionista]

Yes, the fetus is not guilty regarding the promiscuity of the mother. The whole point here is one of accountability. There is no reason to kill a fetus just because the mother decided to have a good time one night. This is what the majority of abortions are about. The mother has to be accountable for her actions. Abortion is not birth control.

It only takes one sperm to get pregnant.Not all people who get abortions are promisicuous skanks who don't use condoms. Things happen - contraceptives can fail in committed relationships, too. Also, it'd be smart to not make such rash judgements of people's sex lives. Especially with no link posted to verify that the women who get abortions are promiscous, trashy, fun-loving chicks.

 

[Texas Lynn]

I'm not sure what you mean Texas Lynn. Could you please explain?

Simply that abortion is a responsible decision.

 

[drstevej]

Simply that abortion is a responsible decision.

Assuming life begins after conception. If life begins at conception it is comparable to infanticide.

 

[Hentenza]

It only takes one sperm to get pregnant.Not all people who get abortions are promisicuous skanks who don't use condoms. Things happen - contraceptives can fail in committed relationships, too. Also, it'd be smart to not make such rash judgements of people's sex lives. Especially with no link posted to verify that the women who get abortions are promiscous, trashy, fun-loving chicks.

Again, what statistics do you have to prove your point. Contraceptives like the pill are 99% effective but why is it that millions of children are killed in the hands of abortion doctors yearly? Where all of these kids a mistake of contraception?

 

[Texas Lynn]

And as with any poetry the point is to determine the literal content expressed figuratively.

You wove me in my mother's womb uses weaving as a metaphor for His personal involvement in the development process which is precisely what is stated in the parallel phrase: You formed my inward parts.

Figurative language does not negate a literal truth. Doesn't take a PhD in literature to understand the passage.

Give me a literal rendering of this figure, TL. It doesn't say, you were a piece of tissue, nothing more.

It's not there to be taken literally.

 

[Texas Lynn]

Assuming life begins after conception. If life begins at conception it is comparable to infanticide.

Precisely why it does not. Thank you.

 

[Hentenza]

It's not there to be taken literally.

So, is it written just to be discarded? No lessons to be learned?

 

[Ave Maria]

Simply that abortion is a responsible decision.

I agree that it can be a responsible decision. However, I feel that abortion is unnecessary in most cases. I am pro-life but I am rather moderate in my pro-life position.

 

[drstevej]

Precisely why it does not. Thank you.

So, life does not begin at conception because then it would make abortion infanticide?

 

[drstevej]

It's not there to be taken literally.

Reread the post. You missed my point.

 

[WarriorAngel]

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Yes, the fetus is not guilty regarding the promiscuity of the mother. The whole point here is one of accountability. There is no reason to kill a fetus just because the mother decided to have a good time one night. This is what the majority of abortions are about. The mother has to be accountable for her actions. Abortion is not birth control.

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I concur.

Can anyone give just cause to why the baby must be murdered for the sins of the father or mother??

If this was the case - none of should be alive now.

I am a woman and i am not afraid to say - killing a baby who is a seperate individual is WRONG.

 

[WarriorAngel]

Simply that abortion is a responsible decision.

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Two wrongs never make a right.

Its wrong to be promiscious.
Its wrong tio kill.

Where is there a grey area?

The scriptures say 'Thou shalt not kill'
Where does it say killing someone unwanted is acceptable?

Who does it say the Author of life is?

Man - woman - or God..?

Pay close attention to the scriptures about God being the Creator and Author of life Who's will is not subjective to woman's choice.

And this is important because we will ALL be graded on this in the final exam.

 

[Texas Lynn]

So, is it written just to be discarded? No lessons to be learned?

Please show where I have said so.

 

[Texas Lynn]

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Two wrongs never make a right.

Its wrong to be promiscious.
Its wrong tio kill.

Where is there a grey area?

The scriptures say 'Thou shalt not kill'
Where does it say killing someone unwanted is acceptable?

Who does it say the Author of life is?

Man - woman - or God..?

Pay close attention to the scriptures about God being the Creator and Author of life Who's will is not subjective to woman's choice.

And this is important because we will ALL be graded on this in the final exam.

A fetus is not "killed" as it is not a person.

 

[drstevej]

A fetus is not "killed" as it is not a person.

I'm guessing it has the DNA of a human rather than a marmoset.