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World's oldest temple found in Turkey

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Need we go over this again?Reality can take a hike.
There you go again... If God is real, but does not conform to your idol, he can take a hike. God himself is not allowed to disagree with you. You must be able to fit the world into a gnats brain. It must be your way. I feel very sad for you.

Truly, whom god would destroy, he first makes proud.


:p
 
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There you go again... If God is real, but does not conform to your idol, he can take a hike. God himself is not allowed to disagree with you. You must be able to fit the world into a gnats brain. It must be your way. I feel very sad for you.

Truly, whom god would destroy, he first makes proud.


:p
Why don't you just put your Junior Psychology Kit away for awhile and join us?
 
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Yes, allmost makes me regret studying norwegian mesolitic. This place has so much potential for interest :)
Indeed.

In other regions, going back to Neanderthal Man, what appears to be ceremonial burials have been discovered.
 
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Interestingly, and this may be off topic, the earliest rock carvings here in norway (and europa as far as i know) depict hunting sceenes of a variety of scecies of animals most of which we still have around. None are of the fabled "kinds" requred for the flood myth to hold water. It's all mooses, reineer, red deer, ect. no "deer kind" to be had.
 
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Like the village idiot, who walks around blowing a whistle at people because he thinks it makes him important, when all it does is single him out as the village idiot.
Well, if you spoke more, maybe we would have something to compare it with? Griping only goes so far.
Your idea of a good conversation seems to be staked to a small chain, and moving in a circle, from there. Work on that.
 
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And another one shows up, right on schedule. :thumbsup:

How about addressing the OP topic....Oh, never mind. I don't want to invite more lunatic rantings in this thread.
So your opinion of the OP is what? Let us know what those other than lunatics think, now, whiny guy. Let me guess, that the stake of the present lwas form the circle of all you imagine about the realities of the past? My, how novel. Yet how utterly baseless. Anything else??? Maybe run along, and play, now.
 
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Why do people laugh at creationists? Only creationists don't know why.
Your ilk are not the only ones laughing! Ask God!!!

Or me, or Avi if you like.


Ps 2:4 -He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

So, other than whining and droning on about nothing, have anything of substance to say???? Otherwise, your words are clouds without rain. Whoopee doo.
 
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Ask God!!!
I did. He said that he was nothing more than a figment of my imagination.

Ps 2:4 -He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
I hate to break it to you, but scripture isn't reality, it's only scripture. That's why the reality of an 11,000 year old temple really screws things up for you.
 
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I did. He said that he was nothing more than a figment of my imagination.


I see, so God talks to you. Interesting. Just God, or is it pixies, and demons as well??

I hate to break it to you, but scripture isn't reality, it's only scripture. That's why the reality of an 11,000 year old temple really screws things up for you.
The so called reality of an 11,000 year old anything is based on beliefs that we can impose our laws back to that time. You need more than beliefs for real time. No matter what the spirits whisper in your ear.
 
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I see, so God talks to you. Interesting. Just God, or is it pixies, and demons as well??
With imagination, anything is possible. You've already demonstrated that for us. :)

The so called reality of an 11,000 year old anything is based on beliefs that we can impose our laws back to that time. You need more than beliefs for real time. No matter what the spirits whisper in your ear.
In fantasy world, anything is possible. You've already demonstrated that for us. :)

:wave:
 
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With imagination, anything is possible. You've already demonstrated that for us.

So you claim that speaking to God is possible. OK. I do not need imagination to read about this world being temporary. None. It is spelled out in the bible. And science has no way of cross checking God's tommorow! Or yesterday. The way you have tried to imagine the past, is by applying the laws and realities of today there, and constructing a house of cards based on that. The sands of time will find your house blown away! Meanwhile, the sand fairy stories about how all things continue as they were are unverifiable. I can't take the word of the utterly uninformed, over the word of God, even if they claim God told them otherwise, or the fairies did.

The dating methods used are bunk, and no dating methods at all, just religious hand waving. As much as you would prefer to ignore the already demonstrated obvious, and restrain all conversation to inside the box! That act is getting pretty worn out.
 
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Isn't it bed-check time? Do they know you're on the computer again? Better take those meds and get back to your room. We wouldn't want you getting in trouble or anything.


I take no meds, actually. How about you be honest now!!!!!??? The finger that points is usually guilty. Your NyQuil la la land dream past that conflicts with the bible simply is all hot air. The Saganistic, paganistic, has been now defeated pipe dreams of so called science can take the lower seat, if you know what I mean!

Isa 60:14 - The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall call thee, The city of the LORD, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.
 
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Prehistoric people would have gazed upon herds of gazelle and other wild animals; gently flowing rivers, which attracted migrating geese and ducks; fruit and nut trees; and rippling fields of wild barley and wild wheat varieties such as emmer and einkorn. "This area was like a paradise," says Schmidt, a member of the German Archaeological Institute. Indeed, Gobekli Tepe sits at the northern edge of the Fertile Crescent—an arc of mild climate and arable land from the Persian Gulf to present-day Lebanon, Israel, Jordan and Egypt—and would have attracted hunter-gatherers from Africa and the Levant. And partly because Schmidt has found no evidence that people permanently resided on the summit of Gobekli Tepe itself, he believes this was a place of worship on an unprecedented scale—humanity's first "cathedral on a hill."

I wonder if this was the garden of Eden?
Only with plenty of small mammals and birds meeting painful deaths at the hands of nomadic human hunters.
 
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I wonder if this was the garden of Eden?
Only with plenty of small mammals and birds meeting painful deaths at the hands of nomadic human hunters.

Heh, thats just what I thought. Many myths and legends often contain a grain of truth.

And from a archaeological point of view the Eden story is a tale of going from a "hunter gatherer" way of life to a farming one. So yes, this pace is a good candidate for "the garden of eden" :)
 
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