I Would be Ecstatic to Have a Gay Child!

[OphidiaPhile]

You're going to get bashed.

Be ready.

Your adversaries do not allow dissent.

I am not going to bash him but I am curious as to why it is assumed that it is a choice. As I have previously stated I work in the field of genetics and much of what I do is classified but I can say that there are genetic markers that only occur in homosexual people, and yes it is true that the exact gene or genes involved in the trait have not been isolated neither have ones for thousands of other things yet we know that it is only a matter of time before they are mapped. And of course there are other variations within the gay community such as heightened level of testosterone in lesbians and estrogen in gay men.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

I am not going to bash him but I am curious as to why it is assumed that it is a choice. As I have previously stated I work in the field of genetics and much of what I do is classified but I can say that there are genetic markers that only occur in homosexual people, and yes it is true that the exact gene or genes involved in the trait have not been isolated neither have ones for thousands of other things yet we know that it is only a matter of time before they are mapped. And of course there are other variations within the gay community such as heightened level of testosterone in lesbians and estrogen in gay men.

And you got this from little green spacem. . . er . . . persons, or the tooth fairy wearing a white smock next to you at the lab?

Are we forgetting genitalia, physiology and biology doc?

Quick, let me know, I have children with "questioning" minds.

This is another case of GAYS VERSUS CHRISTIANS.

The sequel.

 

[Andreusz]

...With that said, I DONOT want my son to be gay. I would be very dissapointed in him if he was. And I would make sure he knew it!
YES I would still love him.
...
I do not want my son involved with anything that is self distructive. And you cannot make me believe the gay community is not self distructivant less than the drug community is.

For this reason I would make sure my son knew how very disapointed I was if he was gay. I would hate the life style that goes with the choice he made.

But I WOULD STILL LOVE MY SON. As I am loved by my Father in heaven even with the thigns I have done and do.

I think there are a couple of misconceptions here. First, homosexuality is not necessarily self-destructive. It is true that there are many male homosexuals who live promiscuous and lascivious lifestyles, and who run the risks of contracting STDs and perhaps losing all self-respect. But we don't all live like that. There are many of us who are faithful to our partners, do not engage in promiscuity, and pair off in loving and supportive relationships.
Secondly, except in a tiny minority of cases, homosexuality is not a choice, any more than liking ice-cream is a choice. It's just a set of feelings ... you can't force yourself not to like icecream if your taste buds say 'this is nice!'

I hope you don't perceive the above as 'bashing'.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

And you got this from little green spacem. . . er . . . persons, or the tooth fairy wearing a white smock next to you at the lab?

Are we forgetting genitalia, physiology and biology doc?

Quick, let me know, I have children with "questioning" minds.

This is another case of GAYS VERSUS CHRISTIANS.

The sequel.

I am not gay and most people are very ignorant as to not only physiology but especially genetics and DNA.

For a gay person to be attracted to a person of the opposite sex if often as repulsive as it would be for you to attracted to another man.

It is kind of like my weird taste in women, skinny women are repulsive to me, if I can see bones like in her shoulder or her ribs I feel like throwing up.

 

[David Brider]

I don't have any children of my own - don't know if my fiancée and I will have or not - but certainly if either my nephew or my niece turned out to be gay, I'd take it in my stride. Yeah, there's the concern that other people would treat them badly - but hopefully by the time they're able to work out what their sexual orientation is (and as they're 2½ years, and just a few days old, respectively, that'll hopefully be a good few years away), a lot of the prejudice against gay people will hopefully have disappeared from society.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

I think there are a couple of misconceptions here. First, homosexuality is not necessarily self-destructive. It is true that there are many male homosexuals who live promiscuous and lascivious lifestyles, and who run the risks of contracting STDs and perhaps losing all self-respect. But we don't all live like that. There are many of us who are faithful to our partners, do not engage in promiscuity, and pair off in loving and supportive relationships.
Secondly, except in a tiny minority of cases, homosexuality is not a choice, any more than liking ice-cream is a choice. It's just a set of feelings ... you can't force yourself not to like icecream if your taste buds say 'this is nice!'

I hope you don't perceive the above as 'bashing'.

When I was younger I was far more promiscuous than any of my gay friends which I think stemmed from by college football and bodybuilding days, in fact my fellow football players were far more promiscuous that any of my gay friends.

 

[justacook]

I have not taken any comments as bashing. It is not my intent to bash anyone else. I have been exposed to the gay community and the drug community.
When I refer to self distructive, I refer to the people who make it a point to be noticed. I could sit at home, smoke a joint, never be noticed and, enjoy the effects just fine.

Just as a couple can be togeather and enjoy each others company.

But, if I went outside smokeing a joint and carrying a sign demanding to legalize weed I would be attracting undue attention. Same goes with some gay people. I have worked with some real works of art in the resteraunt industry.

Society in general tolorates many things but secertly complain to other like minded people about those things. Politics, religion, drugs, sexual orientation, mix race relationships, age differances, drinking, national origin, and any thing you dont like about anyone else.

With that in mind I dont want my son to have to expieriance thoses things just because it will be tolerated. Society might tolerate it but that does not mean I have to. I can still express my opinion to my son.

BUT I WILL STILL LOVE HIM. Is that not what this thread was about.

 

[OphidiaPhile]

I have not taken any comments as bashing. It is not my intent to bash anyone else. I have been exposed to the gay community and the drug community.
When I refer to self distructive, I refer to the people who make it a point to be noticed. I could sit at home, smoke a joint, never be noticed and, enjoy the effects just fine.

Just as a couple can be togeather and enjoy each others company.

But, if I went outside smokeing a joint and carrying a sign demanding to legalize weed I would be attracting undue attention. Same goes with some gay people. I have worked with some real works of art in the resteraunt industry.

Society in general tolorates many things but secertly complain to other like minded people about those things. Politics, religion, drugs, sexual orientation, mix race relationships, age differances, drinking, national origin, and any thing you dont like about anyone else.

With that in mind I dont want my son to have to expieriance thoses things just because it will be tolerated. Society might tolerate it but that does not mean I have to. I can still express my opinion to my son.

BUT I WILL STILL LOVE HIM. Is that not what this thread was about.

You would be amazed at how I am treated for keeping snakes. I have done it since I was 15 and at one point had about 300 adults and produced 2000 plus neonates and hatchlings each year. Now I am down to 68 adults and yearlings.
People act as if I have the plague when they find out I have them, some call me white trash others refuse to associate with me and some think it makes me a sociopath and still others could not care less and treat me like they would anyone else but it is interesting to see the way in which people react.

 

[Alexandrah]

People act as if I have the plague when they find out I have them, some call me white trash others refuse to associate with me and some think it makes me a sociopath

Ha. or people think you're goth or something.
Reptiles get no love. Animals without fur deserve love too.
I get angry when I walk into a pet store and see dying lizards with broken tails that are starving to death, yet if there was a puppy in a cage in the same store people would be calling the humane society in mass numbers

 

[OphidiaPhile]

Ha. or people think you're goth or something.
Reptiles get no love. Animals without fur deserve love too.
I get angry when I walk into a pet store and see dying lizards with broken tails that are starving to death, yet if there was a puppy in a cage in the same store people would be calling the humane society in mass numbers

That makes me so mad but it happens all the time.

 

[wanderingone]

Ha. or people think you're goth or something.
Reptiles get no love. Animals without fur deserve love too.
I get angry when I walk into a pet store and see dying lizards with broken tails that are starving to death, yet if there was a puppy in a cage in the same store people would be calling the humane society in mass numbers

Actually a lot of my friends involved in making regular rounds to the chain pet stores take the same care in reviewing the conditions of the critters many don't consider cute as they do checking out the furry ones. A lot of the chains no longer sell puppies, making the small animals, birds, fish and reptiles the ones subject to inept care and its on their behalf reports get made.

We're not thrilled with the idea of breeding domestic pets and buying pets from pet stores or breeders period (no matter what kind of pet it is), and wish that pet stores would stick to selling supplies and pet owners would stick to taking in the critters that need rescuing, not those that are reproduced for our personal interest in having a pet.

 

[acropolis]

most of the straight women i know really want to have a gay son for some reason.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

most of the straight women i know really want to have a gay son for some reason.

It's so they can have someone to keep them fashionable in their old age.

 

[wanderingone]

It's so they can have someone to keep them fashionable in their old age.

Well then they don't wish for my cousin and his husband.. I don't think either of them has been to a store other than sears or Target in years.

 

[LittleNipper]

I don't understand how anyone could hate, let alone abandon their gay child. Personally, I would be overjoyed if my child was gay. Because gay people don't tend to have unintentional pregnancies! Not that I wouldn't be happy to have a straight, bisexual, asexual, transsexual, or intersexed child as well. I hope to love my children for who they are. Also, teach them about safer sex practices, and emphasize using condoms.

I just wanted to see a less negative topic on the first page. *grin* Also, I'm a very bored insomniac.

Talk about BIAS. Homosexuals, are not supposed to be having children. They need someone of the opposite sex to do their dirty work. I just love to know what you'd tell that child if they ever informed you that their partner has HIV and the condom you supplied him with broke. "Oh well, you win some and you lose some. Better luck next time?"

 

[LittleNipper]

most of the straight women i know really want to have a gay son for some reason.

Just how many "straight" women do you actually know, and on which side of the tracks do they live?

 

[jcook922]

I would be disappointed if my child ended up gay, I wouldn't live him/her any less, but I would be disappointed as I want my children to be heterosexual.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Talk about BIAS. Homosexuals, are not supposed to be having children. They need someone of the opposite sex to do their dirty work. I just love to know what you'd tell that child if they ever informed you that their partner has HIV and the condom you supplied him with broke. "Oh well, you win some and you lose some. Better luck next time."

Faulty condoms and HIV/AIDS are risks any couple makes, heterosexual or otherwise.

 

[nhislove]

I don't understand how anyone could hate, let alone abandon their gay child. Personally, I would be overjoyed if my child was gay. Because gay people don't tend to have unintentional pregnancies! Not that I wouldn't be happy to have a straight, bisexual, asexual, transsexual, or intersexed child as well. I hope to love my children for who they are. Also, teach them about safer sex practices, and emphasize using condoms.

I just wanted to see a less negative topic on the first page. *grin* Also, I'm a very bored insomniac.

I would not abandon a child for their sexual orientation but they sure would know how much I would never condon it. If you believe in God then you believe in truth and I taught my children the truth. They know what sin is and how when engaged in you face the consequences of it.

 

[wanderingone]

I would be disappointed if my child ended up gay, I wouldn't live him/her any less, but I would be disappointed as I want my children to be heterosexual.

Why disappointment? I'm curious because when I talk to people on an email list I'm on who express their disappointment at discovering their children are gay I'm truly kind of confused. I understand the fears, the concerns about their child being the target of violence, I don't understand disappointment.

Some people say they think about the grandkids they'll never have or the weddings they imagined etc. I guess I'm strange. I thought about grandchildren not one bit until there was one, he's here, he's awesome, his pic is up there. But he was not some imaginary baby I couldn't wait for one of my kids produce.

They think about the "normal" life they imagined. Maybe that's where I get lost, "normal" isn't part of my expectations. I am disappointed by things like being cruel. I don't know why my kids orientation would disappoint me. To me that would be like being disappointed that my kid had green eyes.

I tried to think of it in terms of being disappointed that my niece has medical problems and is developmentally disabled. I am disappointed for her though. Because of the things she cannot have access to. For my child who is gay I may be disappointed for her if she cannot legally get married someday and that's what she wants to do. I may be sad if she is hurt by some bigot. But those things would be the same for any of my children. Their orientation doesn't create a situation for me to be disappointed about.

I'm sorry if I sound like I'm picking at you, I'm not, your comment just reminded me of so many parents of GLB kids on my e mail list and their reaction to discovering their kids were gay-- some are conservative Christians and I understand their disappointment is that they believe their child is not living under their beliefs and the teachings of their churches. I understand that, don't agree with it, but I get where that disappointment comes from.

Otherwise I have a hard time comprehending that disappointment.