http://www.textweek.com/art/garden_of_eden.htm
Actually, I was looking for the John Huston film on Genesis, but couldnt find it locally or on Youtube. I had a record of that soundtrack as a young kid. I remember the angry booming voice of God expelling Adam and Eve from paradise. I wanted to play it for my kids in Sunday school. After that, we are going to give the kids a chance to stage manage Genesis three as a play. What is God going to sound like?
With no Huston film, I found some art along the same lines.
While I dont wish to exclude the anger of God, I do think it is essential to note a couple of things:
1. Adam and Eve hide from God. That is the most salient activity associated with separation. It is not the only factor. But, in the traditional renderings, there is less hiding and more expulsion.
2. The curses could theoretically be more a question of natural consequences that arbitrary punishment. Man apparently intends to make a go of it for himself as provider, with his new found knowledge of good and evil. Apparently he is not a very good farmer. Again, the issue is not an Allah-like arbitrary wall of division, but a question of, "Where is your heart Adam? Is it with Me and within My Providence, or are you going it alone?" I think a very good model of Christian life is the tendency to leave blessings on the table.
[Ah, Michelangelo, Dude, this was post fig leaves and post God making clothing from skins. Why the anatomy thing?]
Gen 3:24 So he drove out 01644 the man 0120; and he placed 07931 at the east 06924 of the garden 01588 of Eden 05731 Cherubims 03742, and a flaming 03858 sword 02719 which turned every way 02015 , to keep 08104 the way 01870 of the tree 06086 of life 02416.
As for this "drove out" thing, there is another thread on the presence of God, which is very important on this point. There are two aspects of the presence of God. Biblically, the same fiery-bright cloud of the appearing of God either consumes the enemies of God, kills the ignorant, receives his chosen (Enoch, Elijah, the bride) or is accompany by admonishes not to fear.
Luk 2:9 And behold,[fn2] an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were greatly afraid.
Luk 2:10 Then the angel said to them, "Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people.
[Where's freakin skins? Whats with these Europeans?]
What do you think? Has anyone gotten it right? Arguably the fig leaf is the first religion, and not a very good one at that. The above is also not so hot.
Actually, I was looking for the John Huston film on Genesis, but couldnt find it locally or on Youtube. I had a record of that soundtrack as a young kid. I remember the angry booming voice of God expelling Adam and Eve from paradise. I wanted to play it for my kids in Sunday school. After that, we are going to give the kids a chance to stage manage Genesis three as a play. What is God going to sound like?
With no Huston film, I found some art along the same lines.
While I dont wish to exclude the anger of God, I do think it is essential to note a couple of things:
1. Adam and Eve hide from God. That is the most salient activity associated with separation. It is not the only factor. But, in the traditional renderings, there is less hiding and more expulsion.
2. The curses could theoretically be more a question of natural consequences that arbitrary punishment. Man apparently intends to make a go of it for himself as provider, with his new found knowledge of good and evil. Apparently he is not a very good farmer. Again, the issue is not an Allah-like arbitrary wall of division, but a question of, "Where is your heart Adam? Is it with Me and within My Providence, or are you going it alone?" I think a very good model of Christian life is the tendency to leave blessings on the table.
[Ah, Michelangelo, Dude, this was post fig leaves and post God making clothing from skins. Why the anatomy thing?]
Gen 3:24 So he drove out 01644 the man 0120; and he placed 07931 at the east 06924 of the garden 01588 of Eden 05731 Cherubims 03742, and a flaming 03858 sword 02719 which turned every way 02015 , to keep 08104 the way 01870 of the tree 06086 of life 02416.
As for this "drove out" thing, there is another thread on the presence of God, which is very important on this point. There are two aspects of the presence of God. Biblically, the same fiery-bright cloud of the appearing of God either consumes the enemies of God, kills the ignorant, receives his chosen (Enoch, Elijah, the bride) or is accompany by admonishes not to fear.
Luk 2:9 And behold,[fn2] an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were greatly afraid.
Luk 2:10 Then the angel said to them, "Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people.
[Where's freakin skins? Whats with these Europeans?]
What do you think? Has anyone gotten it right? Arguably the fig leaf is the first religion, and not a very good one at that. The above is also not so hot.
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