How Homophobic Are You?

[EnemyPartyII]

So, you now say that the Holy scriptures are false? Please use Scripture to prove it false.

*logic implossion*

 

[HaloHope]

So, you now say that the Holy scriptures are false? Please use Scripture to prove it false.

No im saying your interpretation is wrong... you do realize what you posted above dosent actually make sense in terms of logic.. right?

It's true--you can bank on it.

Im banking on God loving me for me. I was created homosexual and my relationship is based by God. Im of the increasing opinion that if people dont like it thats tough. Its between me and God and we are just fine.

Except in your personal morality code at variance with God's. It doesn't matter whether or not you believe it. God's word is true and is our authority. We don't have the luxury of rejecting Him and still retain the knowledge of God and His blessing. Rejection of His truth brings judgment...all scriptural.

I guess we will see come death, but as I believe myself to be right (and despite what we say all believers only have faith and belief not FACT) we shall have to wait and see. Neither of us can prove the other wrong.

Living in a fantasyland of your own making is not taking a person to reward.

Just as well im not. Yay!

 

[Floatingaxe]

My interpretation is correct according to the Word of God---throughout. You really must read it, as well as study it.



God does love you---but He has no relationship with children of disobedience. That, He makes very clear--over and over! Why would you want to be "banking on" something, when you can be certain? Fantasy is not truth.

 

[HaloHope]

My interpretation is correct according to the Word of God---throughouit. You really must read it, as well as study it.

I have. A lot. But thanks!

 

[EvangelicalChristian]

I'm not a Muslim. I happily agree that the Muslim faith is mislead, and has it wrong about some fairly major aspects of God. However, their faith is still worshipping the same God that we Christians worship, however misguided and mistaken in the specifics of that worship they may be. Similar to Judaism... we Christians don't believe that the Jews are correct about a great many things (they deny the Son as well, for example) yet I don't think you'll find many Christians who claim that the Judaic God is not the Christian one.

We all trace our religions back to Abraham, how can we be worshipping different Gods, unless abraham was actually a polytheist?

as I said, Allah is literally the word that Arabic speaking Christians use when they pray.

You are correct that Eastern Christians use the word Allah, but ask those same Christians if they worship the same God as do the Muslims. For that matter ask Muslims if they worship the same God as Christians. Specifically Jesus Christ.

 

[Floatingaxe]

You are correct that Eastern Christians use the word Allah, but ask those same Christians if they worship the same God as do the Muslims. For that matter ask Muslims if they worship the same God as Christians. Specifically Jesus Christ.

Amen, brother!

 

[LunarPlexus]

Hi, FA, great to see you! How have you been?

My interpretation is correct according to the Word of God---throughouit. You really must read it, as well as study it.



God does love you---but He has no relationship with children of disobedience. That, He makes very clear--over and over!

Your interpretation is correct according to YOU. It is correct according to how YOU percieve the word of God...a bit a of a paradox, really.

And I would think that God's relationship with children of disobedience is very strong, since they so desperately need His guidance. A loving parent does not abandon a disobedient child, they offer it guidance and nurturing...and God is the most loving parent of all.

 

[Floatingaxe]

I have. A lot. But thanks!

1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,


Matthew 7:21
“Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter.



Indeed, the way to heaven is a narrow road!

 

[Floatingaxe]

Hi, FA, great to see you! How have you been?




Your interpretation is correct according to YOU. It is correct according to how YOU percieve the word of God...a bit a of a paradox, really.

And I would think that God's relationship with children of disobedience is very strong, since they so desperately need His guidance. A loving parent does not abandon a disobedient child, they offer it guidance and nurturing...and God is the most loving parent of all.

Sorry, but no--my interpretation is in line with the Church of Jesus Christ globally...because it is in line with God.

No relationship comes out of disobedience and rejection of God. a loving parent indeed does not abandon his child. But he has NO OBLIGATION to the child of the bad man down the street--the child is not in his family!

Either you serve God or Satan.

 

[HaloHope]

1 Corinthians 6:9
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,

Ive reponded to this verse so many times till im blue in the face. Homosexual = 20th century word, not possible for it to be a word used in the Bible, especially when previous non 20th century editions indicated mastabation as the sin here.

Matthew 7:21
“Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter.



Indeed, the way to heaven is a narrow road!

Perhaps they way to heaven wouldnt be quite so narrow if many Christians (not saying you specifically here FA) didnt delight in trying to shut as many people out as possible to reinforce the point.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Ive reponded to this verse so many times till im blue in the face. Homosexual = 20th century word, not possible for it to be a word used in the Bible, especially when previous non 20th century editions indicated mastabation as the sin here.

Excuses, excuses. Dream on!

Perhaps they way to heaven wouldnt be quite so narrow if many Christians (not saying you specifically here FA) didnt delight in trying to shut as many people out as possible to reinforce the point.

No one is shutting you out but you. I am inviting you IN!

Nothing will widen the road but sin and compromise.

 

[LunarPlexus]

Sorry, but no--my interpretation is in line with the Church of Jesus Christ globally...because it is in line with God.

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree there...I don't base my view of God on the teachings of man, but by God himself.

No relationship comes out of disobedience and rejection of God. a loving parent indeed does not abandon his child. But he has NO OBLIGATION to the child of the bad man down the street--the child is not in his family!

Either you serve God or Satan.

But we are all God's children, we're all his family. Those of us who go astray can't hope to find the path again unless we have our loving God there to help us. I can't believe that we're excluded from God's family forever...someone who goes astray once always has another chance. God is supposed to be loving and forgiving, why would he not want his beloved children to fall back into obedience? And why wouldn't he help them?

 

[Floatingaxe]

Matthew 7:21-27

True Disciples

21 “Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. 22 On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ 23 But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’


Building on a Solid Foundation

24 “Anyone who listens to my teaching and follows it is wise, like a person who builds a house on solid rock. 25 Though the rain comes in torrents and the floodwaters rise and the winds beat against that house, it won’t collapse because it is built on bedrock. 26 But anyone who hears my teaching and doesn’t obey it is foolish, like a person who builds a house on sand. 27 When the rains and floods come and the winds beat against that house, it will collapse with a mighty crash.”

 

[HaloHope]

Excuses, excuses. Dream on!

Erm its not an excuse... its like a fact. Something that actually is 100% correct.

No one is shutting you out but you. I am inviting you IN!

Nothing will widen the road but sin and compromise.

Thanks for the invite, but I am already with God and shall go to heaven one day!

 

[LunarPlexus]

FA, I really do respect your faith and trust in the bible, but I don't, so quoting scripture doesn't push your point with me.

But, since you have brought it up...can you honestly say that there haven't been times in your life when you've disobeyed the word of God? And if so, do you think those pieces of scripture will apply to you? Will you be cast aside by God and turned away from heaven?

Is it all as simple as that?

 

[Floatingaxe]

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree there...I don't base my view of God on the teachings of man, but by God himself.

I do that. However, if you did, instead of following after secular thought, which is from man, we would be agreeing.

But we are all God's children, we're all his family. Those of us who go astray can't hope to find the path again unless we have our loving God there to help us. I can't believe that we're excluded from God's family forever...someone who goes astray once always has another chance. God is supposed to be loving and forgiving, why would he not want his beloved children to fall back into obedience? And why wouldn't he help them?

While God created us all, in His sovereignty, He is not the Father of us all. We are all in the family of man for sure, but we are not all in the family of God.

Of course God desires his wandering ones to come back into the fold. He does everything He can to bring them back. Those who will--will!


Why do you assign injustice and unconcern to Him? He is patient and doesn't want anyone to miss heaven. Sadly--many more will than won't.


Matthew 7:13
“You can enter God’s Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way.

 

[Floatingaxe]

FA, I really do respect your faith and trust in the bible, but I don't, so quoting scripture doesn't push your point with me.

But, since you have brought it up...can you honestly say that there haven't been times in your life when you've disobeyed the word of God? And if so, do you think those pieces of scripture will apply to you? Will you be cast aside by God and turned away from heaven?

Is it all as simple as that?

Yes, I disobey God plenty in my life! The scriptures speak to me as well--loud and clear!

God's promises of forgiveness and restoration are mine when I repent and turn from my sin. I have a right relationship with Jesus everytime I repent!

Homosexuals don't fo that. They are walking in their sin, unconfessed daily and each time they commit the sin, they compound the previous ones, layer upon layer upon layer.


Repentance means to turn around and walk away from the sin.


God has made it as simple as that, LP.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Erm its not an excuse... its like a fact. Something that actually is 100% correct.

Sorry, but you are dead wrong there, Halo.

Thanks for the invite, but I am already with God and shall go to heaven one day!

I would like to suggest you get the audio story on DVD by John Bevere, called "Affabel". It is a tremendous account of Judgment Day.

 

[LunarPlexus]

I'm not assigning injustice and unconcern to Him...I must have said it wrong, I apologize.
But after that post, I don't know what we are disagreeing about here.

Of course God desires his wandering ones to come back into the fold. He does everything He can to bring them back. Those who will--will!


Why do you assign injustice and unconcern to Him? He is patient and doesn't want anyone to miss heaven. Sadly--many more will than won't.

I agree with you on this...but, though my relationship with God has developed a lot over the past year, you and I still have very different relationships with him, hence: very different views.

Oh well...it's hitting 10pm here. I'm being kicked off the computer by the housemate. Hopefully we'll catch up again tomorrow

Sweet Dreams, and God bless!

 

[LunarPlexus]

Yes, I disobey God plenty in my life! The scriptures speak to me as well--loud and clear!

God's promises of forgiveness and restoration are mine when I repent and turn from my sin. I have a right relationship with Jesus everytime I repent!

Homosexuals don't fo that. They are walking in their sin, unconfessed daily and each time they commit the sin, they compound the previous ones, layer upon layer upon layer.


Repentance means to turn around and walk away from the sin.


God has made it as simple as that, LP.

Oops! Missed this post...repentance is a long process sometimes. A whole lifetime of habits take a lot of time and Holy support to break. God listens to the heart rather than the lips, and God knows when someone wants to change.