EnemyPartyII
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Seems pretty unisexual to me. Which bit make you think of sex between David and Jonathan because it certainly doesn’t say they had any. It does say David was attracted to and slept with women though.
The relationship between the two men is addressed with the same words and emphasis as loving heterosexual relationships in the Hebrew Testament: e.g. 'ahavah or אהבה (see Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon, Hebrew word #160; Gen. 29:20; 2 Sam. 13:15; Pro. 5:19; Sgs. 2:4-7; Sgs. 3:5-10; Sgs. 5:8) When they are alone together, David confides that he has "found grace in Jonathan's eyes", a phrase normally referring to Romantic or physical attraction. Throughout the passages, David and Jonathan consistently affirm and reaffirm their love and devotion to each other. Jonathan is willing to betray his father, family, wealth, and traditions for David.
The covenant made between the two men strengthens a romantic rather than political or platonic interpretation of their relationship. At their first meeting, Jonathan strips himself before the youth, handing him his clothing, armor, and weapons, remaining naked before him[citation needed]. This is when they first make their covenant, not long after their first meeting (1 Sam. 18:3-4). Each time they reaffirm the covenant, love (though not necessarily sexual in nature) is the only justification provided. Additionally, it should be observed that the covenants and affectionate expressions were made in private, like a personal bond, rather than publicly as would a political bond.
Really? where's it say that in the Nicene Creed? Heck, not even the Bible makes that claim!Christians believe the Bible is the word of God,
Where does God's word say anything of the sort? Chapter and verse where the Bible says "this is the only acceptible model for a marital type relationship"You need to understand that God’s word says it is as demonstrated. You can choose not to accept it if you wish.
There are no Chinese people in the Bible, does that mean they aren't countenanced?they are not the most common, the most common implies there are others less common, there aren’t there are NO examples of homosexual practice and unions countenanced. This is the sort of inaccurate false claims the whole of the pro-gay argument is based on.
You misunderstand... Jesus tells us to love each other as we would be loved... which means "treat other people as you would like to be treated" which means "consider if you would like it if you were the other guy and roles were reversed" right?Love isn’t sex. Sex is to be within a marriage (1 Corinthians 7) Your ideas on the topic are all your ideas alone, they are non-Biblical and not The Christian position.
OK, so, lets consider the roles reversed... you are a homosexual in love with a consenting partner who you would like to live with in a long term, stable monogomous relationship... would you appreciate it if I, as a heterosexual, condemned you for it?
Well would you?
If your answer is anything but "yes"... then Christs new commandment to humanity tells you to accept homosexuals as they are.
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