God's War on Terror by Walid Shoebat

[Kathe]

Has anyone read this yet? I'm halfway through and think that every single person needs to read this book. It is both overwhelming and peace-giving at the same time. It is absolute the second best book I've ever read and makes everything in prophecy make sense for once. I believe this man was changed by God for this reason.

You can get copies of it here at Joel's Trumpet website or google Walid Shoebat and get it on his website.

BTW - it might not be a good idea to read the chapter on beheadings just before bed. Oops!

Kathe

 

[Big Mouth Nana]

Has anyone read this yet? I'm halfway through and think that every single person needs to read this book. It is both overwhelming and peace-giving at the same time. It is absolute the second best book I've ever read and makes everything in prophecy make sense for once. I believe this man was changed by God for this reason.

You can get copies of it here at Joel's Trumpet website or google Walid Shoebat and get it on his website.

BTW - it might not be a good idea to read the chapter on beheadings just before bed. Oops!

Kathe

If it is regarding the beheadings during the tribulation, most of us know this already. I'm not much on reading "mans" book, just Gods book. Might help if you added some extra information on what this book pertains to so it would be worth checking out. .

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

If it is regarding the beheadings during the tribulation, most of us know this already. I'm not much on reading "mans" book, just Gods book. Might help if you added some extra information on what this book pertains to so it would be worth checking out. .

Does that mean we have to be beheaded to sit in Judgement on the rest of the people

Revelation 20:4 And I saw Thrones, and they are seated on them. And judgement was given to-them and to-the/taV <3588> souls of the ones having been beheaded/pepelekis-menwn <3990> thru the testimony of Jesus and thru the Word of the God

 

[Kathe]

If you google God's War on Terror it will bring you to a good 6 minute you tube video which can tell you a lot more than I can.

It is a book of over 500 pages. Written by an ex-PLO terrorist who is well versed in ME goings on. He is very bible literate. I also do not read a lot of books other than the bible but this is one book that everyone, including born again Christians, would be well served to read. He doesn't care about someone's rapture viewpoint but is attempting to be a voice in the wilderness that Christ IS coming very soon and the signs are all over the ME.

 

[HisdaughterJen]

Well, it sounds very interesting indeed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMBVBGCMBXM

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

If you google God's War on Terror it will bring you to a good 6 minute you tube video which can tell you a lot more than I can.

It is a book of over 500 pages. Written by an ex-PLO terrorist who is well versed in ME goings on. He is very bible literate. I also do not read a lot of books other than the bible but this is one book that everyone, including born again Christians, would be well served to read. He doesn't care about someone's rapture viewpoint but is attempting to be a voice in the wilderness that Christ IS coming very soon and the signs are all over the ME.

Every generation for the last 2000yrs has said it was "NEAR" and the Jews are still waiting.........

Luke 21:31 Thus also ye whenever ye may be seeing These-things becoming ye are knowing that nigh/egguV <1451> is the Kingdom of the God.

Revelation 1:3 Blessed the one reading, and the ones hearing, the Words of the Prophecy, and keepings in it/her having been Written/gegrammena <1125> (5772), for the Time Is-Near/egguV <1451>.

Revelation 22:10 And he is saying to me "no thou should be sealing the Words of the Prophecy of the Scroll, this. That the Time Is-Near/egguV <1451>

 

[Biblewriter]

Every generation for the last 2000yrs has said it was "NEAR" and the Jews are still waiting.........

There are something on the order of fifty (I have never counted them) specific details of the world political situation mentioned in end time prophecy.

None of these details were in place at the time the prophecies were written.

There has never been a time in the past when more than two or three of them was in place.

When I was born (1943) about two or three of them were in place.

Today almost all of them are either already in place or in the news as developing.

That is why it is very appropriate to say that his coming is very near.

 

[Kathe]

Just because people have been saying for 2000 years that He is coming soon doesn't mean that He is not. This is not the time to fall asleep. This is the time to wake up. Just like John the Baptist. He was a voice calling in the wilderness that the time to repent is now and get right with God. People didn't believe him because they had been waiting so long for their Messiah. And because they didn't believe him they didn't recognize the Messiah when He came. The time is coming very quickly and we must warn our family, friends and neighbors. We must be diligent in our watching.

As Biblewriter wrote, there has never been a time in the past 2000 years where so many signs have lined up just right.

Please everyone, give yourself a huge gift and read this book. It is absolutely the best book on bible prophecy I've ever read (and I've read a lot of them). I have no vested interest in anyone reading this except spreading the word that HE IS COMING SOON and I want everyone to be ready.

This book will be a blessing to you. I truly believe that God saved this muslim terrorist for this reason, so he could be a blessing to the world through his insight and knowledge.

Kathe

 

[Bible2]

Kathe posted in message #1:

BTW - it might not be a good idea to read the chapter
on beheadings just before bed.

We Christians need to be prepared to see the
beheadings which the Antichrist will perform in the
future (Revelation 20:4b). We need to be prepared to
see our loved ones beheaded; we need to be prepared to
face the beheading sword ourselves; we need to be able
to face all the coming horror of the tribulation with
patience and faith unto the end (Revelation 13:7-10,
14:12-13, Matthew 24:9-13).

 

[Bible2]

LittleLambofJesus posted in message #3:

Does that mean we have to be beheaded to sit in
Judgement on the rest of the people

Revelation 20:4

Those sitting on thrones in Revelation 20:4 could be
the twelve apostles who will sit on twelve thrones
during the millennial reign of Jesus (Matthew 19:28,
Luke 22:30). The judgment given unto them could be in
the sense of ruling, like the rulers in the book of
Judges.

But the rule of the twelve apostles with Jesus will be
just part of the rule of the Church during the
millennium, for those in the Church who will be
beheaded by the Antichrist will also rule in some
fashion on the earth (Revelation 20:4b), as will all
the rest of the Church (Revelation 5:10, 2:26-29),
which will all be resurrected at the same time: at the
first resurrection (Revelation 20:6) at the second
coming of Jesus (1 Corinthians 15:22-23).

The ruling of those in the Church with Jesus during
the millennium will be dependent on the willingness
they had to suffer for Him during their lifetime, no
matter what form that suffering may have taken, and
their refusal to deny Him in order to escape suffering
(2 Timothy 2:12).

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LittleLambofJesus posted in message #6:

[Re: Christ IS coming very soon]

Every generation for the last 2000yrs has said it
was "NEAR" and the Jews are still waiting.........

Luke 21:31 ...

Revelation 1:3 ...

Revelation 22:10 ...

Every generation for the last 2,000 years was right
to say that Christ's second coming was near, but not
from the viewpoint of men, but from the viewpoint of
God, for whom even 2,000 years is as two days
(2 Peter 3:8-9).

All of the elect unbelieving Jews who are still alive
at the second coming will be saved at that time
(Romans 11:26-29), when they see Jesus (Zechariah
12:10-14).

Luke 21:31 refers to some signs by which men might
know that the coming of the millennial kingdom of
Jesus (Revelation 20:4-6), which He will establish
after His second coming (Revelation 19:11-21), is near
from the viewpoint of men. The fig tree in Luke 21:29
could represent Israel (Hosea 9:10), and its re-budding
could represent the re-establishment of Israel by U.N.
Resolution in November, 1947. Luke 21:32 could mean
that the generation that saw that re-establishment of
Israel won't pass until Jesus has returned and
established His millennial kingdom. If a generation
usually passes after 70 years (Psalms 90:10), Luke
21:32 could mean that Jesus could return 69 years
after the November, 1947 re-establishment of Israel,
or in 2016.

Revelation 1:3b, 22:10b can be understood in light of
2 Peter 3:8-9.

 

[vinsight4u]

There won't be a rapture till the 7th trumpet when the two witnesses rise at the same hour as a great earthquake (the 6th seal quake time). The saints will go home to heaven for the time of silence and remain there for the marriage time till they return as armies from heaven in Rev. 19. Only one of the armies will have yet to gain victory over the beast, so that army will go to Armageddon and fight. Both armies will then in chapter 20 get to reign for 1000 years, while Satan is bound.

 

[AmericanCatholic]

Oh boy. What a mess. The greatest problem in the theory is that it relies on the assumption that Islam is somehow a monolithic religion, where every (major) view is held in conformity, and each moving piece of the region is moving (unguided?) towards some predefined end-state. That is blatantly false as far as this theory is concerned. Not only is the Islamic world divided culturally, politically, and economically, there are also serious theological rifts (similar to Christianity) which undermine the entire premise of the argument presented here. Consequently, the theory presents a remarkably ignorant view of Islam. For example, the very concept of the "mahdi" is not widely accepted in the Sunni community -- the largest Islamic denomination. And in the communities in which it's the idea is embraced, the details very from group to group. It makes me wonder why the author selected his particular version of the "Mahdi" at the exclusion of other views. But it's another great example of using our religious beliefs to justify our political actions.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

There won't be a rapture till the 7th trumpet when the two witnesses rise at the same hour as a great earthquake (the 6th seal quake time). The saints will go home to heaven for the time of silence and remain there for the marriage time till they return as armies from heaven in Rev. 19. Only one of the armies will have yet to gain victory over the beast, so that army will go to Armageddon and fight. Both armies will then in chapter 20 get to reign for 1000 years, while Satan is bound.

Hi Vin. In my most humble view, ALL is FINISHED at the pouring out of the Last Bowl/Vial in Reve 16. I do not believe in a literal future 1000yr reign.

Reve 16:17 and the seventh one pours out the bowl of him upon the air and came out a Voice, great, out of the Sanctuary from the Throne saying :it-has-become/gegonen <1096> (5754). [Revelation 21:6]

Btw, did ya ever look closely at the greek word used for the "lambkin" in Revelation. In my view it appears to symbolize the "denied/disowned-one", another words, the Jews/Israelites of the flesh denied the Holy One as described in Isaiah 53 of the OC. Still working on this. Thoughts.

http://christianforums.com/showthread.php?t=7245442
The "lambkin" in Revelation and John 21 question

2Peter 2:1 There became yet also False-Prophets in the people as also in ye shall be False-Teachers whoany shall be carrying in sects of destruction, and the One buying/agorasanta <59> (5660) them, Owner/Master/despothn <1203>, disowning/arnou-menoi <720> (5740)-- bringing on them swift destruction. [Matt 24:11/Jude 1:/Reve 5:9]

Reve 5:6 And I saw and behold! in midst of the throne and of the four living-ones and in midst of the elders a lamb-kin/arnion <721> standing, as having been slaughtered
9 And they are singing a song, new, saying: "Thou are worthy to be taking the scrollet and to up-open the seals of it that thou was slaughtered and Thou purchase/hgorasaV <59> (5656), to the God in the blood of Thee, out of every tribe, and tongue and people and nation"

 

[vinsight4u]

Hi LittleLambofJesus

Think of the part as to "It is done" as meaning the vials are over, the plagues that were announced in Rev. 11:19b are over.
This is not said for the trumpet time plagues, due to part of that section was sealed up.

You don't believe that Armageddon is over?
Okay, then how could Rev. 20 have "they sat" as over yet?
We need the people from the battle of 19 that are on God's side to go and sit down in chapter 20.

Rev. 20:4
"And I saw thrones, and they sat..."
John must have recently been referring to this bunch, so all we do is step back a few verses and look for them.

19:19
"And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army."
against His army
and we then move to when they will sit down/
20:4
"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them...'
?This is the His army bunch from the battle of ch 19.

Do you agree that chapter 19 refers to the Armageddon battle of chapter 16?

Have you looked at the pattern we get if we take Rev. 4:5 and Rev. 8:5-6 and apply the flow to Rev. 11:19b?

thunderings and lightnings and such are followed by what?

Rev. 4:5
"And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices..."
What does the flow show us is next?

lightnings
thunderings
voices
and .....what did John see next?

seven lamps

How about checking in Rev. 8:5-6. John writes as to voices, and thunderings, and lightnings..."
What should we expect to see soon?
seven of something

verse 6
"And the seven angels..."

Verse 5 adds a bit after the lightnings part - for it has a plague, an earthquake. This is revealing to us that there is a set of plagues to be done by the seven angels and that whole section of time is to end with an earthquake.
As - God will let the punishment time of the trumpets start and keep going till the last part brings an earthquake.

Notice then that Rev. 11:19b won't link to Rev. 8:5-6 but goes nicely with Rev. 16:1. Rev. 11:19b shows us what?

lightnings
voices
thunderings

So shouldn't we soon see seven of something being talked about?

 

[Bible2]

vinsight4u posted in message #11:

There won't be a rapture till the 7th trumpet when
the two witnesses rise at the same hour as a great
earthquake (the 6th seal quake time). The saints will
go home to heaven for the time of silence and remain
there for the marriage time till they return as
armies from heaven in Rev. 19.

The rapture of the church won't be at the 7th trumpet
during the tribulation (Revelation 11:15-19), nor
will it be before the 7th trumpet, when the two
witnesses' mortal bodies are resuscitated (Revelation
11:11).

The rapture of the church won't be until after the
tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31) of Revelation chapters
6-18, at the second coming (Revelation 19). That's
why the marriage doesn't happen until Revelation 19:7.
Jesus' coming to gather together the church must
destroy the Antichrist (2 Thessalonians 2:1,8), just
as we see Jesus destroying the Antichrist in
Revelation 19:20.

The church won't be raptured into the third heaven,
but only as high as the clouds to meet Jesus in
the sky on his way down to the earth at his second
coming (1 Thessalonians 4:15-17). After the church
has been judged (Psalms 50:4-5, cf. Mark 13:27) and
then married (Revelation 19:7) in the clouds, it will
get on white horses and come back down from the sky
(the first heaven) with Jesus (Revelation 19:14) as
he wages war against the Antichrist and all the
armies of the world (Revelation 19:11-21).

 

[vinsight4u]

The church will be raptured when the time of salvation comes.

Check the start of Rev. 19 and Rev. 12 for the great tribulation is over first.

The two witnesses rise from the dead during the 7th trumpet - great earthquake hour.
This hour when all saints get life from God in them.

"the Spirit of the life from God entered into them"

This is the time of can't ever die resurrection body received.
The two witnesses get slain in the 6th trumpet segment - but rise during the 7th trumpet earthquake hour - which is not to occur till after 3. 5 days from when they get slain.

 

[Bible2]

The church will be raptured after the entire
tribulation (Matthew 24:29-31) of Revelation chapters
6-18. That's why the marriage doesn't happen until
Revelation 19:7.

Revelation 12 shows the church in the latter half
of the tribulation, the 3.5-year world-reign of the
Antichrist (Revelation 12:6,14,17, cf. 13:5-10,
14:12-13, 20:4).

The two witnesses rise from the dead before the 7th
trumpet sounds (Revelation 11:11-15). And they won't
rise from the dead into immortal bodies, but in their
mortal bodies, just as Lazarus and Tabitha rose from
the dead in their mortal bodies (John 11:43, Acts
9:40). The church's rising from the dead into immortal
bodies can't happen until the second coming
(1 Corinthians 15:22-23,51-53), which doesn't occur
until Revelation 19.

 

[hiscosmicgoldfish2]

I've watched his videos on you-tube. He has a very anti-islamic take on end-times, and dosn't accept the role of Rome in it all.. not from what i could gather from his vids. It is interesting though, as he's from that world, so he is going to focus on mid-east as the end-times focus.. like the first reformers concentrated on Rome. I am waiting for him to write a book on prophesy, as i would read that, to get an islamic take on the whole thing.. as it relates to the bible, and i think western christians have ignored the islamic problem, and it's like it's not anywhere in prophesy.. when actually most of the old world was islamized and christianity forced out.. totally in some areas.. so islam is very important and needs to be investigated properly.. imo.

 

[Bible2]

Islam may be represented by the seventh head of the
beast of Revelation 17:3, where each head represents
a different empire. The five empires that had fallen
by the time of John the apostle (Revelation 17:10a)
were Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, and Greece.
The one that existed in the time of John (Revelation
17:10b) was Rome. And the one that was to come after
the fall of Rome (Revelation 17:10c) may be Islam.

The tribulation could start in the Middle East with
an all-out Islamic attack on Israel, resulting in its
defeat (Daniel 11:15-16). This war could be the
fulfillment of the tribulation-starting war of
Revelation 6:4, where the "great sword" could be
nuclear weapons. When Israel sees that its defeat is
imminent, in retaliation it could employ its nuclear
weapons against the Islamic nations attacking it,
which could be Iraq, Syria, and Iran.

The Antichrist could arise on the scene after this
war is over (Daniel 11:21). He could be an Arab who
will first unite all of the Arab nations into one
empire, one Arab Union, which he will rule.
Subsequently, he could convince an oil-thirsty
European Union to unite with the Arab Union into one
Mediterranean Union, which will basically be a
reconstituted Roman Empire, which consisted of not
only Western Europe, but also the Middle East and
North Africa. The Antichrist could then rule over this
new Union, and use it as his base of power to extend
his hegemony over the rest of the world (Revelation
13:7b).

 

[hiscosmicgoldfish2]

Islam may be represented by the seventh head of the
beast of Revelation 17:3, where each head represents
a different empire. The five empires that had fallen
by the time of John the apostle (Revelation 17:10a)
were Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, and Greece.
The one that existed in the time of John (Revelation
17:10b) was Rome. And the one that was to come after
the fall of Rome (Revelation 17:10c) may be Islam.

The tribulation could start in the Middle East with
an all-out Islamic attack on Israel, resulting in its
defeat (Daniel 11:15-16). This war could be the
fulfillment of the tribulation-starting war of
Revelation 6:4, where the "great sword" could be
nuclear weapons. When Israel sees that its defeat is
imminent, in retaliation it could employ its nuclear
weapons against the Islamic nations attacking it,
which could be Iraq, Syria, and Iran.

The Antichrist could arise on the scene after this
war is over (Daniel 11:21). He could be an Arab who
will first unite all of the Arab nations into one
empire, one Arab Union, which he will rule.
Subsequently, he could convince an oil-thirsty
European Union to unite with the Arab Union into one
Mediterranean Union, which will basically be a
reconstituted Roman Empire, which consisted of not
only Western Europe, but also the Middle East and
North Africa. The Antichrist could then rule over this
new Union, and use it as his base of power to extend
his hegemony over the rest of the world (Revelation
13:7b).

Islam did take over after the fall of the Roman Empire. So you might be right about that 7th head. I think the attack on Israel will be mostly arab, but I think that Russia might be involved, as I was looking at it again of late, ... Magog is north-east of the Black Sea, and Meshech + Tubal being southern Russia. Dosn't look like Turkey will be involed after all.
As it's 'the hook in the jaw of Magog'? that implies that Russia will be dragged into the invasion, or the arab/persians to the south have Russia hooked and are winding them down into the conflict.. perhaps not directly, but with military support. I've read a bit agian lately about this Assyrian. Assyria as far as I know is Iraq. So maybe this arab uniter will be an iraqi. Or from Syria. After Damascus is nuked-off, probably by the Israelis, as Syria is found to be a major player in the invasion.