Should Christians evangelize gays?

[Polycarp_fan]

They are glad because they never were Christian, they were attempting to work their way to heaven. Doing works to be a good boy soon becomes a real drudge. To stop doing works and do whatever is a termporary relief but offers not security. I find that as a real Christian I am free to do things for CHRIST ---- to show my love and not because I must.

L-N,

C'mon man, that is not necessarily why people were in Christian Churches. Like John says, they left because they never were one of us.

Remember Elijah, when he thought he was the only believer left on earth, God said that there were thousands of people throughout the land that hadn't bowed their knee to pagan practices and beliefs.

Be careful.

I'm sure there are peope caught up in the GLBT community (and many other non and anti-Christian enclaves) that haven't bought into them.

I'm out.

But I DON'T mean "I'm out."

 

[cantata]

They are glad because they never were Christian, they were attempting to work their way to heaven. Doing works to be a good boy soon becomes a real drudge. To stop doing works and do whatever is a termporary relief but offers not security. I find that as a real Christian I am free to do things for CHRIST ---- to show my love and not because I must.

Yes, it doesn't seem very nice to me, I have to say, to only care about the salvation of people you like.

 

[Mling]

Hmm, it looks you are going try. Once again.



Where would that be?

Worlds away from my beliefs, right where you said Christianity is.

That would be in gay theological circles. Anything goes there (except for accurate Biblical exegesis of course). You know that now.

Not sure how hearing you say something means I "know" it. Especially when it goes against everything I *actually* know. I've heard all sorts of people say all sorts of things.

I was a member of an informal gay "club" in a Christian college and certainly *nothing* like that was considered appropriate in my circle. Those who were dating at all were monogamous.

Far more than that. I know the Biblical record on the poor and needy. It appears you haven't forgotten things.



It is a sin like homosexuality is.

Christians are ralying to support small businesses all the time. The Alliance Defense Fund is doing just that for a small business owning Christian coupled attacked by Lesbians.

If you preach "another Gospel" it is indeed good that you are out. That is in keeping with the Christian witness in the New Testament writings.

I was an appropriate decision for an anti-Christian to make. If you at anytime desire to repent, well, you know the deal. That door is never closed but for one sin.

So, basically, when I describe my "gay" morality, you seem to agree with it but don't seem willing to acknowledge it. Caring for those in need, treating one's own privilege with humility and discretion, promoting the wellbeing of the common person and not treating sex as casual play.

And yet...you still claim that I preach a "different" gospel, that it's good I left because I am "anti-Christian" and that Christian morality and mine are worlds apart from one another.

Have you ever the phrase "He who cannot agree with his enemy is controlled by him"?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

My evangelism team has gone to "Pridefest" in Philadelphia and it was a very fruitful experience (no pun intended) and one of the highlights of my evangelism life was getting to share the Gospel with a little girl in Boston who was involved in a lesbian relationship.

"A little girl in a lesbian relationship" are we discussing illegal paedophilia, or chronic mysogenic condecension?

 

[PassionFruit]

The gay community and the Christian community are worlds apart on proper moral behavior, so why should Christians bother with homosexuality and those that engage in it?

I wasn't going to respond to this thread, that's why I'm late in replying because threads condemning gays has gotten old. But to ask should the Christian community evangelize, isn't that part of being Christian? Why should people of the LGBT community be left out if you feel that they're sinning? This is just another typical anti-gay thread, "saying that homosexuals are promiscuous, they're destroying our families, they're pushing their lifestyles on us.

Judging from many of the posts you have here, it seems you're just talking, but you're not really saying anything. Yeah I had to bring this up again.

 

[WhatThe]

Passionfruit - I LOVE IT.
I'm going to print it out and attach it to the wall next to my computer

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Its good, but the one missing is about how "every civilisation that embraces homosexuality has fallen, look at Rome and Greece!"

 

[WhatThe]

Its good, but the one missing is about how "every civilisation that embraces homosexuality has fallen, look at Rome and Greece!"

And there also needs to be a "The Gay Agenda!!!!" square lol

 

[Flibbertigibbet]

The gay community and the Christian community are worlds apart on proper moral behavior, so why should Christians bother with homosexuality and those that engage in it?

Are gays "given up?" Should Christians evangelize "Gays."

Paul about a segment of Roman life that bears a striking similarity to the sexual immorality of today:
Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.

They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another.

Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.

Your question was answered within your own post. YOU don't give anyone over, only God.

Christians are commanded by Jesus himself, in Mark 16:15 as follows:

15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Are you purporting to know the mind of God and telling us that we should listen to you rather than Jesus regarding who should be told the Good News?

 

[Caylin]

You know, I was going to respond to poly carp, but what is there to say? He is going to be convinced I'm coming for him, when really, I just want him and his kind to leave me alone and let me live my life.

 

[WhatThe]

There's really no point, is there Caylin?
It's so frustrating that you can write a five page post that discredits all his arguments, and he writes back "So, you agree with me, gays are bad and the homosexual agenda will be the death of us all?"

 

[Mling]

"A little girl in a lesbian relationship" are we discussing illegal paedophilia, or chronic mysogenic condecension?

A third option is that he's harassing a child with the "your mommies are liars and sinners and they're going to burn in hell, but if you just come with me, you won't," form of emotional abuse.

 

[HaloHope]

A third option is that he's harassing a child with the "your mommies are liars and sinners and they're going to burn in hell, but if you just come with me, you won't," form of emotional abuse.

I found the whole phrasing of WarEagles post there fairly disturbing myself, hopefully he will clarify what he meant by it.

 

[Aeris]

I wasn't going to respond to this thread, that's why I'm late in replying because threads condemning gays has gotten old. But to ask should the Christian community evangelize, isn't that part of being Christian? Why should people of the LGBT community be left out if you feel that they're sinning? This is just another typical anti-gay thread, "saying that homosexuals are promiscuous, they're destroying our families, they're pushing their lifestyles on us.

Judging from many of the posts you have here, it seems you're just talking, but you're not really saying anything. Yeah I had to bring this up again.

Lol the couple that I didnt already hear I've heard many times since Polycarp joined (as well as hearing the ones I have heard before over and over again). You should add one that says "They will sue you for believeing the bible, because they've made it a hate crime!"

Seriously, it makes me so sad that christians recruit children at such a young age so when they grow up they believe things that no reasonable adult would believe (like how someone is evil just because they are different than you)

 

[mpok1519]

What does evangelize mean anyway? Preach? Convert?

arent there gay-friendly Christian churches out there that openly accept gays the same way as ALL churches accept adulterers, idolators, law-breakers, addicts and sinners alike?

Arent you just supposed to preach the love Christ has for us, and that in order to make self-improvements, one must commit their own self to introspection?

 

[mpok1519]

heres a better question!

Is it a form of psychological brain-washing by insinuating that one's eternal spiritual salvation hangs solely within the balance of adhering to a strict code of moral responsibility?

 

[ReverendDG]

What does evangelize mean anyway? Preach? Convert?

mostly i think just call people names and tell them they will burn in hell forever for taking candy from your mom's purse without asking..

arent there gay-friendly Christian churches out there that openly accept gays the same way as ALL churches accept adulterers, idolators, law-breakers, addicts and sinners alike?

yeah, but coming from some people you'd think sinners where not the whole point of the thing.
its funny to read posts from christians saying they don't want sinners in their churches, then reading a post saying everyone's a sinner
boggles the mind!

Arent you just supposed to preach the love Christ has for us, and that in order to make self-improvements, one must commit their own self to introspection?

i always thought so. what made jesus such a cool guy is the fact that he showed people his love, by example, not by yelling at people.
i don't remember ever reading about jesus calling normal people, vile, sick, twisted, monsters.
though he did rebuke the priests for being hypocrites, he didn't keep brow beating them for it.

 

[mpok1519]

mostly i think just call people names and tell them they will burn in hell forever for taking candy from your mom's purse without asking..


yeah, but coming from some people you'd think sinners where not the whole point of the thing.
its funny to read posts from christians saying they don't want sinners in their churches, then reading a post saying everyone's a sinner
boggles the mind!


i always thought so. what made jesus such a cool guy is the fact that he showed people his love, by example, not by yelling at people.
i don't remember ever reading about jesus calling normal people, vile, sick, twisted, monsters.
though he did rebuke the priests for being hypocrites, he didn't keep brow beating them for it.

It seems then that Jesus is on the side of the sinners rather than a harshly retributive pharisees.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

It seems then that Jesus is on the side of the sinners rather than a harshly retributive pharisees.

Jesus didn't just warn His followers about false teachers.

"But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

"Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to sin! Such things must come, but woe to the man through whom they come!"

And:

"If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over.

But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.

If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector."

I've come to see the modern usage of "pagans and tax collectors" of Rome AD 30, as liberal and progressives circa 2008. Sure act the same. And ... Christians are not taught to harm ANYONE!!!!!

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Lol the couple that I didnt already hear I've heard many times since Polycarp joined (as well as hearing the ones I have heard before over and over again). You should add one that says "They will sue you for believeing the bible, because they've made it a hate crime!"

And yet, Christians have been sued for not wanting to apporve of and promote gay life. Mocking just makes you look like one of Lot's neighbors come back to haunt us.

Seriously, it makes me so sad that christians recruit children at such a young age so when they grow up they believe things that no reasonable adult would believe (like how someone is evil just because they are different than you)

As opposed to GLBT's (and others) that want to teach children that their body parts are not designed for what they are designed for? Isn't that called "perversion?"

So, you'ld rather teach children sexual perversion (or deviant sexual behaviors) rather than the Gospel?

Yes or no? And you can "LOL" (or Lol) while giving your answer.