Gay theology (i.e. Mel White, Soulforce) why even try?

[Archer93]

Interesting leaflet, Polycarp_Fan, which seems to be aimed at 16+ boys and is age appropriate- the language is maybe a little graphic in places for some people but not for the relevant audience...
Good, solid advice which emphasises the importance of not being pressurised into doing something one doesn't want to do.

Any luck finding those photos of children being taught to engage in gay sex?

 

[selfinflikted]

Teaching liitle children to engage in gay sex is not protecting them. It is recruitment.

The pamphlet you've referenced is not for recruiting anyone to be gay. It's target audience are gays. It teaches safe sex practices.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

You didn't realize that is written for a gay audience...did you? It's not teaching anyone to be gay. It assumes that they already are gay.

Also, sorry to burst your bubble, but marriage has traditionally been polygamous and arranged.

Genesis 4:19
Genesis 16:1-4
Genesis 25:6
Genesis 26:34
Genesis 31:17
Exodus 21:10
Deuteronomy 21:15
Judges 8:30
1 Samuel 1:1-2
2 Samuel 12:7-8
1 Kings 11:2-3
1 Chronicles 4:5
2 Chronicles 11:21
2 Chronicles 13:21
2 Chronicles 24:3
Matthew 25:1

What bubble? ALL of the wives of these men were opposite gender. There is no scriptures that promote or support what we call today "homosexuality." No not one. And, as can be seen with the teaching of Jesus on marriage, there is no same-gender "marriage" either. One, two, or three wives or more. But it could be argued that Jesus was teaching about one man and one woman. God did not get Adam multiple wives.

And you can blow as many bubbles as make you happy. If you use the right kind of gum and take it out of your mouth at the right time, you won't have to burst these either.

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Lies. The pamphlet you've referenced is not for recruiting anyone to be gay. It's target audience are gays. It teaches safe sex practices.

This is both hilarious and saddening at the same time. You've only gone to show what lengths some people will go to to demonise gays.

It is not I that demonize people. Gays included. But as a Christian I know who does. And it's not Christians.

[quoteArrival at your position can only be accomplished by a gross stretching of the truth, and imagination. You sir, are a liar. Plain and simple.[/quote]

You cannot prove that I am a liar. Stick to the "OP" and stop the liberal spin tactics.

Edit: And I also see that you've ignored my challenge again. I'll take that as a concession on your part.

What challenge? Where?

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Any luck finding those photos of children being taught to engage in gay sex?

The pamphlets are photos. They were written by people to show children how to engage in gay sex.

Now, show me scriptures that promote homosexuality IN the Bible.

Now I know what Jesus was talking about when he taught on the narrow path.

 

[BigBadWlf]

Interesting leaflet, Polycarp_Fan, which seems to be aimed at 16+ boys and is age appropriate- the language is maybe a little graphic in places for some people but not for the relevant audience...
Good, solid advice which emphasises the importance of not being pressurised into doing something one doesn't want to do.

Any luck finding those photos of children being taught to engage in gay sex?

Wait you mean that polycarp_fan misrepresented facts when he claimed that this was being presented to “little children”?
http://christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=47635565&postcount=124
http://christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=47624613&postcount=114


Why that would mean p0olycarp_fan lied. Say it ain’t so!!!!

 

[BigBadWlf]

The pamphlets are photos. They were written by people to show children how to engage in gay sex.

Repeating something that is so obviously a lie will not make the lie magically become true

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Now, what about the many homosexual groups that lie and assert that there are "scriptures" that promotes homosexuality? There are many that do so. Just google Gay Christians and see.

 

[cheese007]

An article with an obvious bone to pick, and a website title like "mass Resistance," does not a good source make.

 

[morningstar2651]

What is the rule on posting photos of a graphic nature?

Don't post graphics or text you would not be comfortable sharing with someone's grandmother.

 

[cantata]

Funny thing is, I can't find a single mention of "The Little Black Book - Queer in the 21st Century" except on conservative and anti-gay websites.

I'd imagine that, if it's genuine (which is by no means obvious), it was written to be distributed to adults, not children, and that any distribution to children was accidental - but whether it was or not, so what? Do you think it represents the desires and practices of all male homosexuals?

I don't judge all Christians by the nonsense spouted in Chick tracts.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Funny thing is, I can't find a single mention of "The Little Black Book - Queer in the 21st Century" except on conservative and anti-gay websites.

I'd imagine that, if it's genuine (which is by no means obvious), it was written to be distributed to adults, not children, and that any distribution to children was accidental - but whether it was or not, so what? Do you think it represents the desires and practices of all male homosexuals?

I don't judge all Christians by the nonsense spouted in Chick tracts.

Am I the only one to be flashing on the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion"?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Anyway, I just looked at PC-F's link, and I'll agree, it IS a fairly graphic piece, and I wouldn't hand it out to young people, because I think the language is inappropriate.

However...

A. although the language is coarse, the information is sound
B. Just who was it approved the distribution of this material to school kids anyway?
C. The material seems very much to be written for people who ALREADY identify as homosexual... as a promotional/recruiting tool aimed at "changing" otherwise straight people to homosexual orientation, I think it would be 100% ineffective.

 

[sidhe]

Funny thing is, I can't find a single mention of "The Little Black Book - Queer in the 21st Century" except on conservative and anti-gay websites.

I'd imagine that, if it's genuine (which is by no means obvious), it was written to be distributed to adults, not children, and that any distribution to children was accidental - but whether it was or not, so what? Do you think it represents the desires and practices of all male homosexuals?

I don't judge all Christians by the nonsense spouted in Chick tracts.

Hold on! A supposedly published item that no one can find proof of other than people who depend on its existence as a basis for their outrageous claims?

*puts on research librarian hat*

Give me a few hours, I'll get to the bottom of this.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Hold on! A supposedly published item that no one can find proof of other than people who depend on its existence as a basis for their outrageous claims?

*puts on research librarian hat*

Give me a few hours, I'll get to the bottom of this.

See my Protocols comment again

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Anyway, I just looked at PC-F's link, and I'll agree, it IS a fairly graphic piece, and I wouldn't hand it out to young people, because I think the language is inappropriate.

However...

A. although the language is coarse, the information is sound
B. Just who was it approved the distribution of this material to school kids anyway?
C. The material seems very much to be written for people who ALREADY identify as homosexual... as a promotional/recruiting tool aimed at "changing" otherwise straight people to homosexual orientation, I think it would be 100% ineffective.

No more ineffective as porn. Recruitment tactics are recruitment tactics. Subliminal or base. Get your product in front of the masses. It's as old as the question from the Serpent to Eve.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

No more ineffective as porn. Recruitment tactics are recruitment tactics. Subliminal or base. Get your product in front of the masses. It's as old as the question from the Serpent to Eve.

Seriously... do you honestly think said pamphlet would actually make anyone change from being heterosexual to homosexual?

Do you honestly think that such an outcome is anyones intent in disseminating such a work?

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Funny thing is, I can't find a single mention of "The Little Black Book - Queer in the 21st Century" except on conservative and anti-gay websites.

So I have have been misled by propaganda? Or misled by recruitment tactics into the anti-gay movment? Or, can we just say that getting someone to accept something means you must get them to accept something?

I'd imagine that, if it's genuine (which is by no means obvious), it was written to be distributed to adults, not children, and that any distribution to children was accidental - but whether it was or not, so what?

The malevolent do make mistakes, but usually it is in getting caught at it. Many "accidents" are calculated.

Do you think it represents the desires and practices of all male homosexuals?

No, just the malevolent ones. When they get old, they seem to want to settle down. In their kind of way.

I don't judge all Christians by the nonsense spouted in Chick tracts.

Good. I don't judge all atheists from the incredible majority that look like bobblehead dolls. Like "freethinkers" for example, if they are not all the same, they get booted out of the club.

Now, how about returning to the premise of the "OP?" You can teach well, so please, the OP?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Good. I don't judge all atheists from the incredible majority that look like bobblehead dolls. Like "freethinkers" for example, if they are not all the same, they get booted out of the club.

And yet you seem eminently happy to judge all homosexuals based on the substance of one pamphlet, one that the vast majority of us have never heard of, let alone approved of or agree with

 

[Polycarp_fan]

Seriously... do you honestly think said pamphlet would actually make anyone change from being heterosexual to homosexual?

Do you honestly think that such an outcome is anyones intent in disseminating such a work?

Start another thread on the subject. I do believe that young people are easily persuaded. It's an age old truth. That is an easy thing to prove. Look up the word "fad" for example. Or look up the word "pornography." Once again showing the slippery slope theory as no longer a theory but an absolute fact. From playboy to internet porn in the billions in one generation. Sodom looks to be a proven fact as well.

As is the fact that there is not one place in scripture for a Christian (or an Israelite) to be encouraged to pursue a homosexual life.