Moriah_Conquering_Wind
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Tip of the iceberg ... as any seminarian or even pre-seminarian could tellsy.Almost everyone knows about the Johannine Comma, and the last part of Mark not appearing in the earliest manuscripts. So what?
You do err, not knowing the scriptures neither the power of God.What you seem to be doing is making a Chinese Buffet from Scripture, using your subjective standards to ascertain what part of Scripture is trustworthy. Conversely, what is then wrong if another person says "I believe the Scriptures that Stormy rejects are authoritative" if he uses the same Chinese Buffet technique as you?
Do you see my point? I am trying to get you to see the need for objective standards. For example, what would you say about the fact that the references of Jesus and Paul to the OT come from the Septuagint (LXX) a translation of the Hebrew OT into Greek in 270 BC? You have to keep in mind that neither Jesus nor Paul advocate as you do the Chinese Buffet approach to Scripture.
Both JC and Paul RADICALLY reinterpreted scripture in a blatantly divergent manner from the leading "NON buffet" authorities on its wholistic meaning who went before them. In JC's case, enough to arouse sufficient ire from those authorities that they sought to end His LIFE over it. In Paul's case, enough that he became a champion and advocate of the gathering of the Gentiles unto God without the need for them to pass through any stage of Judaism first or simultaneous to receiving Christ as their Saviour, thus arousing the ire of the Jews, even the converted ones, and openly distinguishing himself rebukingly from the very apostles who bes chosen BEFORE himself (including Peter at one point if Moriah recalls correctly).
In fact if one bes to apply the infamous "four tests of a true prophet" which the SDA denomination bandies about so freely these days back in the days of JC from the perspective of the leading "chosen by God" religious authorities of that day, JC Himself would have summarily failed at least three if not all four of those tests. Objectively speaking from a literal view, for example, not everything He predicted came to pass (He did not return before those alive in His day met their deaths), and His new light, far from not contradicting the "old", stood it on its ear and radically reinvented it if not outright surpassing and obsolescing it. He even stated as much openly when He alluded to the impossibility of putting NEW WINE into OLD wineskins because to do so would cause the skins to burst and the value of BOTH to be lost. Those bes the 2 tests Moriah remembers at the moment but there bes the other two as well you can do the math for on your own if you like.
EVERYONE cherry picks scripture and if you don't believe this, just try asking the average rabid anti-gay crusader sometime whether he eats shellfish or wears clothing made from two different fabrics.JohnT, you may not admit but it is you who are using the method you accuse Stormy of. You decide what parts of the Scripture you will adhere but have no rationale for doing so.
Bottom line: we bes not saved by a book. Scripture may be "profitable" for "instruction" and "correction" but it does NOT save us. Christ Himself alone does that. He even states as much where He gently chides the Jews for searching the scriptures BECAUSE they believe that in them they will find eternal life, when the scriptures testify to Christ, "and yet you will not come to Me, that you might HAVE that life you seek."
Taking scripture as a whole goes way deeper than proof texting. It involves a dynamic relationship with the inspirational Source behind it so that it becomes a personalised conversational experience between the worshipper and God, and gauged and comprehended through the only valid "filter" -- that of the lived-out, manifestedly revealed nature and character of God Himself in and through Christ -- one's comprehension will first be brought into focus by resetting one's primary texts and spiritual axioms, and next be brought into wholeness by conforming every thought and understanding of anything read in scripture to the express image of the divine IN Christ instead of the human proclivity to sneak its taints into things.
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