Christian Wicca, or Wiccan Christianity

[Pinki]

But he didn't prevail over me. :-/
I still believe in him, but it ain't Christianity any more.

I think you forgot the word "yet"
We can agree to disagree on that one though!

 

[sidhe]

Oh, cool
Do you think then, for sure, they can marry?

Unless they are TEH GHEY, and not in Massachussets in the U.S., they can marry.

 

[InnocentOdion]

Unless they are TEH GHEY, and not in Massachussets in the U.S., they can marry.

Okay

Oh man, CF is getting screwy...er.

 

[InnocentOdion]

I think you forgot the word "yet"
We can agree to disagree on that one though!

Let's hope so then. But I'm not so optimistic about returning to Christianity. I don't think I could now.

 

[InnocentOdion]

I think you forgot the word "yet"
We can agree to disagree on that one though!

Let's hope so then. But I'm not so optimistic about returning to Christianity. I don't think I could now.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

I've managed to hypothetically come up with a way they could work, remember?

With the way CF is acting, I'm not sure of anything anymore.

It involves a LOT of change, so they aren't really traditional Christianity and Wicca any more. But you still can reconcile them.

It does involve removing the angry God, original sin, hell and eternal punishment, adding a Goddess (I think the Holy Spirit is the Goddess of Christianity originally but shhh) and then saying "oooh but that word doesn't MEAAAAAN witch, it means poisoner, necromancer!", loving the earth (hey, God created us to take care of the earth, according to Genesis! just go a little bit further and call it 'nature veneration'. Catholics have been doing it for a long time.)

True. But then again, Paul was pretty explicit about the idolatry, false gods (none before the lord your god, etc), and pagans in general. How is Romans 1 reconciled?

 

[GrayCat]

Agreed! Let's hope it sorts itself out before Cthulhu rises from the deep.

It will be too late by then. He is coming! IA! IA! Cthulhu fhtagn!!!

 

[TexasSky]

According to the Bible it is impossible to combine the two.

 

[katautumn]

With the squirrelly post order I'm not sure if this response will end up in the appropriate place, but oh well. I have to agree with Sacredsin on this issue. I have known people who practice magic and espouse Christian beliefs, but I don't believe one can be a Christian Wiccan or Wiccan Christian. The two religions have opposing beliefs.

For starters, Wicca swiftly rejects the belief that we're evil, disgusting, vile people in need of a savior (Jesus Christ). Wicca is a polytheistic religion. Christianity is strictly monotheistic (in fact, the core belief about Deities in the Wiccan faith is condemned by the first commandment). Wiccans have a very different view of life after death than Christians. We reject the message of a heaven, hell or a devil.

In order to really meld the two religions together you would either have to abandon most of the Christian doctrine or most of the Wiccan doctrine, at which point it would defeat the purpose. It would be a terribly distorted version of either religious sect.

 

[TexasSky]

The most fundamental teaching of Christianity is that God, Jehovah, is the King of Kings, The Almighty, the beginning and the end, and that He will have no other Gods before Him. That Christ is the only way to the Father.

One of the 13 principles of Wicca is the refusal to recognize any authority.

Another of the Wiccan principles is a rejection of Christ as the only way. It specifically address Christianity.


Ergo, one cannot be a Wiccan and be a Christian.

 

[Caitlin.ann]

One of the 13 principles of Wicca is the refusal to recognize any authority.

Another of the Wiccan principles is a rejection of Christ as the only way. It specifically address Christianity.

Since when?

 

[Futuwwa]

In theory, any two religions can be combined, if you are willing to compromise or outright axe the parts that contradict.

 

[Caitlin.ann]

The most fundamental teaching of Christianity is that God, Jehovah, is the King of Kings, The Almighty, the beginning and the end, and that He will have no other Gods before Him. That Christ is the only way to the Father.

One of the 13 principles of Wicca is the refusal to recognize any authority.

Another of the Wiccan principles is a rejection of Christ as the only way. It specifically address Christianity.


Ergo, one cannot be a Wiccan and be a Christian.

Since when?

 

[sidhe]

The most fundamental teaching of Christianity is that God, Jehovah, is the King of Kings, The Almighty, the beginning and the end, and that He will have no other Gods before Him. That Christ is the only way to the Father.

One of the 13 principles of Wicca is the refusal to recognize any authority.

Another of the Wiccan principles is a rejection of Christ as the only way. It specifically address Christianity.


Ergo, one cannot be a Wiccan and be a Christian.

Nice twisting of the phrases used...

10: Our only animosity towards Christianity, or towards any other religion or philosophy of life, is to the extent that its institutions have claimed to be "the only way", and have sought to deny freedom to others and to surpress other ways of religious practice and belief.

http://www.geocities.com/phoenix_mystic159/13Principles.html

Nothing saying you have to deny Christ, just that they take issue with anyone who says that their religion is the only way. In other words, no issue with Christian universalists, or the Catholic church (if they're still upholding Nostra Aestae, I think the document was. I have it on my home computer), or the Orthodox with their "We know where the church is, we do not know where it is not" attitude towards salvation, just those groups of the "REPENT OR BURN!" variety.

Accordingly, they would also take issue with those pagans who insist on their own correctness to the exclusion of all others, muslims, and various other religions.

Just because it says "Christianity" and "deny" in the same sentence, doesn't mean you can rewrite the sentence to say "deny Christianity."

 

[Wiccan_Child]

For starters, Wicca swiftly rejects the belief that we're evil, disgusting, vile people in need of a savior (Jesus Christ).

A minor point: Wiccans don't reject the notion that people are evil etc, but rather rejects the intrinsically evil idea. We fully acknowledge that evil people exist; we just reject the whole original sin malarkey. Otherwise, I agree with what you say: the theologies are so incompatible that a compromise would be representative of neither.

 

[KhlulHloo]

It will be too late by then. He is coming! IA! IA! Cthulhu fhtagn!!!

Yeah, I thought I heard someone mention me

 

[TexasSky]

In theory, any two religions can be combined, if you are willing to compromise or outright axe the parts that contradict.

Your icon says you are a Muslim.
Do you think that you, as a Muslim, could combine Wicca and the Muslim faith?
Or that you could combine the Muslim faith and Christianity?

 

[TexasSky]

In theory, any two religions can be combined, if you are willing to compromise or outright axe the parts that contradict.

Your icon says you are a Muslim.
Do you think that you, as a Muslim, could combine Wicca and the Muslim faith?
Or that you could combine the Muslim faith and Christianity?

 

[Futuwwa]

Note the part about axing the parts that contradict. No, I could not without doing that.

 

[TexasSky]

Since when?

Since April, 1974.
They were adopted by the Council of American Witches in April 1974, and are posted on numerous websites all over the internet. It is, in fact, even listed as a sacred text in the "Wiccan Book of Shadows."

Principle 6 rejects authority.
Principle 10 rejects Christianity.