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This is such nonsense. You have no proof whatsoever that any god exists let alone evidence of a hell doctrine that has any validity outside of your own mind. Since your proofs only work for you, they aren't really proofs. Even your own christian bretheren fail to note or give credence to your "evidence". Your positions can't even be generalized to your own religious community, never mind the rest of us.
I've given you the proof, and you've ignored it and dismissed it as 'circular sourcing' when I've made it clear what exactly I'm sourcing and how it is not just the Bible. And you've dismissed everything that might be backed by what the proof points to based on a different viewpoint. I'm hard pressed to even think about considering that you're right given those facts.
I've read all of your links and quotes. They are proofs. Eh, maybe they are to you. And maybe because I'm in the sciences I just have certain expectations and understanding of what evidence is. If I'm working on a project, for example, and find evidence for whatever via an experiment, that experiment will be able to be repeated by anybody where the same results will always follow. That's what I'm looking for in the way of evidence.
Right about what?
During my time on the net I've noticed that circular sourcing is widely accepted...of course with a basis of many not knowing what this type of sourcing implies or what it even is. News editorialists do it all the time.
No. I'm sourcing a study Bible that has quite a few (over 50) references that are apologetic in nature- which is why it's called the Apologetics Study Bible. I'm not citing something that cites the Bible, I'm citing something that backs the reliability of the Bible by looking into a good majority of the evidence. I've already explained that. Now, quit the false accusations.
That can only be used to test theories, not history. Try a different science. Your understanding of evidence omits a great deal of logic because it does not take history into account, which is exactly what Christianity is based on.
What I'm arguing being wrong.
Try a different science. And tell me, what would that be?
Where in history, outside of the bible, is evidence of god and hell shown?
Well, this makes as much sense as your previous posts.
Hopefully this post will end up on this page because I just found it on page 27 so I'm copying it here.
Originally Posted by jawsmetroid
That can only be used to test theories, not history. Try a different science.
Try a different science. And tell me, what would that be?
For your evidence
1. The Reliability of the Gospels by Craig Blomberg
What in this book proves the existance of god, and what does this book say about evidence of hell doctrine outside the bible?
2. Apologetics Study Bible
What in the Apologetics Study bible proves the existance of god, and what does this it say about evidence of hell doctrine outside the bible?
Please tell me how they refer to god and hell without referencing the bible. I've looked at this pdf and I don't see anything in the way of evidence.
http://www.bhpublishinggroup.com/PDF...s_sampler6.pdf
How is any of this evidence for god and hell outside the bible?
"No, that is not what Christianity is about. Faith is based in logic. Faith is the conviction of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen (Hebrews 11:1). We do not readily see God answering prayers, but we know that He has, and because we know He has, we know He can and will answer them in the future. It's akin to looking at someone larger and heavier than us sit in a chair and deciding that because the chair was able to hold someone larger, it is able to hold us too. That is the same kind of faith we have in God, else it is founded in ignorance and blind trust. True, faith is trust. But it is not blind, it has its basis. We even see that at the end of John:
Joh 20:24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.
Joh 20:25 So the other disciples were saying to him, "We have seen the Lord!" But he said to them, "Unless I see in His hands the imprint of the nails, and put my finger into the place of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe."
Joh 20:26 After eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus *came, the doors having been shut, and stood in their midst and said, "Peace be with you."
Joh 20:27 Then He *said to Thomas, "Reach here with your finger, and see My hands; and reach here your hand and put it into My side; and do not be unbelieving, but believing."
Joh 20:28 Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"
Joh 20:29 Jesus *said to him, "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed."
Joh 20:30 Therefore many other signs Jesus also performed in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book;
Joh 20:31 but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name. "
Quote:Originally Posted by jawsmetroid
Your understanding of evidence omits a great deal of logic because it does not take history into account, which is exactly what Christianity is based on.
Where in history, outside of the bible, is evidence of god and hell shown?
Quote:Originally Posted by jawsmetroid
What I'm arguing being wrong.
Well, this makes as much sense as your previous posts.
