Obama pro/con

[LonesomeTexan]

what kind of scumbag takes $250,000 in campaign contributions from Tony Rezko anyway? Talk about a champion for change. LOL this guy is just another politician apparently. SCUMBAG

 

[MachZer0]

Where is HE the spiritual advisor for the campaign? And surely then you can give me an example where the Pastor has clearly influenced Obama to where we should worry politcially?

In "some sort" unstated aint good enough.

He just left the campaign yesterday

The Reverend Jeremiah Wright Jr., whose remarks on Aids and the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks have sparked controversy, is no longer formally tied to Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's campaign, an Obama spokesman said late yesterday.
Wright, Obama's longtime spiritual adviser and pastor of his Chicago church, was off Obama's African American Religious Leadership Committee as of last night, said campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor, who didn't elaborate. The move follows calls for Obama to sever connections to Wright after news outlets began airing some of the pastor's past sermons.

 

[Voegelin]

Anyone else interested in the timing of the Rev. Wright videos?

After the Clintons did OK in the Texas and Ohio primaries, they offered Obama a place on the ticket. The first offer was the night of the primary. Another offer was made later. Obama didn't say much to the first offer but his people began to mock the Clintons after the second offer.

Then the Rev. Wright videos came out.

Did the Clintons make Obama an offer he should not have refused?

ABC released the tapes. Rick Kaplan is the epitome of the Clinton control of the media. Kaplan is no longer with ABC but might he have influenced the networks decision to run the tapes? Using ABC would be a good cut-out for Kaplan if he didn't want his current employer, CBS, dragged into this.

 

[ImmortalTechnique]

SHOCKING video... from a white minister who attended Obama's church... see the horrendous truth-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioaChVw_pUw

 

[Scribbler]

SHOCKING video... from a white minister who attended Obama's church... see the horrendous truth-

Not sure what this has to do with anything. You'll always find a few far-left water carriers, whether it's for Farrakhan or Wright . It's the white version of the Self Loathing Jew. The Obama campaign can release all of these they want. It DOES NOT LESSEN THE HATRED in 'Reverend' Wright's speeches. Those aren't going away, IT, and all the mousy white ladies whining about 'how nice they were treated' at Trinity won't change that. Wright's speeches are the truth about Obama's Spiritual Advisor,...not this sad attempt at damage control.



Thanks for the link, tho. It was good entertainment for the next 5 minutes until SNL comes on. President McCain, what?

 

[MachZer0]

Not sure what this has to do with anything. You'll always find a few far-left water carriers, whether it's for Farrakhan or Wright . It's the white version of the Self Loathing Jew. The Obama campaign can release all of these they want. It DOES NOT LESSEN THE HATRED in 'Reverend' Wright's speeches. Those aren't going away, IT, and all the mousy white ladies whining about 'how nice they were treated' at Trinity won't change that. Wright's speeches are the truth about Obama's Spiritual Advisor,...not this sad attempt at damage control.



Thanks for the link, tho. It was good entertainment for the next 5 minutes until SNL comes on. President McCain, what?

Interesting that she called the preaching at the church "prophetic". So in her views, the sermons which Obama has now vehemently condemned are actually prophetic sermons which means that she believes Obama is condemning God. Wouldn't that make him antichrist, according to her?

 

[ews]

Interesting that she called the preaching at the church "prophetic". So in her views, the sermons which Obama has now vehemently condemned are actually prophetic sermons which means that she believes Obama is condemning God. Wouldn't that make him antichrist, according to her?

You heard prophetic I heard pathetic and what I heard I agreed with.

 

[ews]

SHOCKING video... from a white minister who attended Obama's church... see the horrendous truth-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioaChVw_pUw

I can’t understand how Jane Fisler Hoffman can say the Rev. Wright’s sermons and his church are warm, loving and welcoming and the church is love filled. Perhaps she along with Barack Obama was not in church those days. However she can also see how the world at large is having a hard time swallowing that.

 

[ews]

Also on the video on post #505 is a video ‘Barack Obama: Judgment to Lead’ and he is saying that he’s the one to bring us all together. That’s not the message in Rev. Wright’s sermons and remember he is Sen. Obama’s spiritual advisor.

 

[Voegelin]

Michael Isikoff in Newsweek:

Citing wiggle room in an obscure, 26-year-old Democratic Party rule, Hillary Clinton's campaign is leaving the door open to the idea of attempting to persuade Barack Obama's pledged delegates to switch their votes at the last minute and back the New York senator . . .

http://www.newsweek.com/id/123495

The pitch to Obama's pledged delegates will be Rev Wright makes Obama unelectable.

The Clintons may not even have to make that pitch. It will probably be obvious soon enough.

 

[invisible trousers]

You've been wrong about basically everything regarding Obama's electability and this won't be any different.

 

[Scribbler]

Michael Isikoff in Newsweek:



The pitch to Obama's pledged delegates will be Rev Wright makes Obama unelectable.

The Clintons may not even have to make that pitch. It will probably be obvious soon enough.

Here's hoping they don't I've always hoped Obama got the vote, he's so much more beatable than HRC.

Here's video of Obama on his pastor, at the the Hampton Minister Conference-

"I've got to give a special shout-out to my pastor, the guy who puts up with me, counsels me, listens to
my wife complain about me. He's a friend, and a great leader. Please everybody give an extraordinary
welcome to my pastor, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Jr. ...Where he at? -There he is! That's him right there!"

 

[JoyJuice]

Here's hoping they don't I've always hoped Obama got the vote, he's so much more beatable than HRC.

Here's video of Obama on his pastor, at the the Hampton Minister Conference-

"I've got to give a special shout-out to my pastor, the guy who puts up with me, counsels me, listens to
my wife complain about me. He's a friend, and a great leader. Please everybody give an extraordinary
welcome to my pastor, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Jr. ...Where he at? -There he is! That's him right there!"

If Obama does get past Hillary, it's pretty much over. Have you seen the size of the Democratic turnouts here lately? That is not because of Hillary, that is because of Obama and most of those voters are young, energized, tired of seeing the status quo, and can give a rats you know what about the need to have the right faith, church, and Pastor.

 

[Voegelin]

Here's video of Obama on his pastor, at the the Hampton Minister Conference-

"I've got to give a special shout-out to my pastor, the guy who puts up with me, counsels me, listens to
my wife complain about me. He's a friend, and a great leader. Please everybody give an extraordinary
welcome to my pastor, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Jr. ...Where he at? -There he is! That's him right there!"

Good find! I'm sure we will see more, lots more, in the coming weeks. It is simply astounding how some of his supporters are claiming he didn't know. In the state legislature, Obama represented the district which is home to the congregations of both Rev. Wright and Louis Farrakhan. He had to know of the relationship between his church and the Nation of Islam. No one gets elected from this district who doesn't pay attention to Wright and Farrakhan.

 

[Carey]

If Obama gets slayed and falls back into obscurity I will believe he is truly a good man.

Because I know the truth about politics.

 

[Dannager]

I'm sorry but if Obama brings a man onto his campaign staff as spiritual advisor, and that man preaches the motto "Go Damn America", then Obama has to answer for the pastor's words.

And the answer should be "I disagree with that message."

Nothing more needs to be said, and it already has been. He also removed Wright from the campaign, though I think that was completely unnecessary.

 

[Dannager]

You're right. He should have to answer for the pastor's words.http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337308,00.html

And he has, not that you deserve one. I can't take someone who frequents Stormfront seriously when they discuss supposed racism.

 

[Dannager]

Actually, it means his spiritual adviser holds these views. Is this the guy you'd want advising your spiritual life?

If he provided solid spiritual advice, I'd certainly take it.

Some advice, Dannager- go with the 'he just joined a church to win some of the religious vote' defense. It's the best shot you have.

Actually, we seem to be doing pretty freaking well with the shot we're taking. Since, y'know, we're winning.

 

[Dannager]

What a glorious day. Rezko confesses to giving Obama more than 250,000 in campaign contributions. HAHAHAHA Obama mania is dead. Let the swift boating begin. Yeah.

Obama recently explained the situation fully to the editorial board of some Chicago papers, including the Tribune - a Republican paper. Apparently they were completely satisfied with the answers. <staff edit>

 

[JGL53]

Ok, how's this:

I'm not voting for McCain because I find the statements of his "spirtual advisors" far more reprehensible than anything I've heard about the Rev. Wright. Thus, I will vote for Obama.

Lessor of two evils.

I now return you all to this thread's preselected program - which apparently is just foaming at the mouth and bashing Obama until one's fingers start to bleed all over the keyboard.