People of America being Consumed by Evil

[clirus]

People of America being Consumed by Evil

I believe Christians have lost their sense of purpose in the world. I believe Christians should live as instructed in the New Testament and establish/support a government that protects Christians as instructed in the Old Testament. The New Testament teaches that Christians should love their neighbor as themselves, but the Old Testament teaches that the government of Christians must eliminate evil in order that good can survive. Some say the government has a responsibility to protect both good and evil, but that is impossible. Because of the sin nature of man, evil will prevail if it is not actively opposed and eliminated. If a nation is not a Christian nation, it will not survive because evil will prevail and consume the people. The purpose of the government of good people is to protect the good people from both domestic and foreign enemies/evil.

The people of America are being consumed by the disease, death and destruction of evil, because they have allowed evil to be advocated and protected. Pornography, abortion and homosexuality have been advocated and legalized. Now the people are being consumed by AIDS and STDs. The effect of the disease, death and destruction of allowing evil to be advocated and protected is not confined to just evil people. People with AIDS are a breeding ground for TB and other diseases that are transmitted by just being near the person. Good people are being forced to pay for insurance to keep the evil people alive. Good people are being taxed to pay for health care and welfare to keep the evil people alive.

Some say Christians are instructed by the Bible to care for the poor (in most cases these are people that are poor because of a evil lifestyle), but the best way to care for the poor is to is to get them out of the evil lifestyle that is making them poor and into the Christian Lifestyle that will lead to being blessed by God. So long as people living the evil lifestyle have a choice of a government handout (health care/welfare) they will take the temporary fix instead of the permanent fix of accepting Jesus Christ as Lord/Savior and living in accordance with the commandments of the Bible.

The government of good people must eliminate evil by whatever it takes to eliminate the evil. Evil has no protection by law. The purpose of law is protect good people from evil.

In the case of evil people, the government should execute those people found guilty of evil activity. The Old Testament of the Bible provides instruction on what is evil that will destroy a society. Putting evil people in jails and forcing good people to pay for their living is a silly temporary fix that avoids the permanent fix of execution. By executing criminal found guilty by a jury trial, the government would be protecting the good people.

The government of good people must reject evil by pointing out the disease, death and destruction of evil activity. An example of the government rejecting evil is the, "Is there anything dumber than smoking" advertising. The government of good people should have advertising, "Is there anything dumber than adultery (or homosexuality, or drug use, or abortion, or etc.). In this manner the government would be protecting the good people.

The government of good people should go to war with nations or groups of people that are a threat to the government/society as is instructed by the Old Testament of the Bible. The purpose of the war should be to do what ever it takes to win, in the shortest possible time, which includes the elimination/killing of men, women and children associated with the threat, as was done in WW II. The war should be fought in a manner so as to minimize the men and material being consumed by the government. The war should be concluded only when the threat has been eliminated. Some say good people should talk with the enemy, but I believe the enemy should be talking with good people to convince the good people that the enemy should not be eliminated.

I believe that if people are presented an honest unbiased presentation of the Atheistic Lifestyle and the Christian Lifestyle, they would choose the Christian Lifestyle and the Atheistic Lifestyle would fade back into the closet. The Christian Lifestyle is the most environmentally friendly/socially responsible/healthy lifestyle for all people. The Atheistic Lifestyle is an evil unhealthy lifestyle of disease, death and destruction.

The only way good people can insure the government protects them is by electing people that advocate good and reject evil.

Republicans have yet to prove to me that they really support Christian principles, but democrats have proven they do "not" support Christian Principles.

 

[craigerNY]

There is a member here that started a thread honoring murderers of abortion doctors, you guys should get together. You'd have a blast.

I'm going to ask you something I've asked you before, something others have asked you that remains unanswered. What is the "Atheistic lifestyle"?

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[Blackguard_]

I'll second the above poster.


It appears clirus has been reading Shield of Faith's CSA thread.

 

[JoshuaW]

Isn't this a direct quote from Mein Kampf?

 

[Allahuakbar]

I am not sure what is worse, the misconception of Christian theology, governmental operation, social organization, biology, or simply ethicality.

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[Jacey]

clirus,

Won't happen. America isn't a theocracy. Why don't you move to a country more suitable to your liking?

 

[KarateCowboy]

To err is human. To really foul things up requires the government.

More pertinently, I was being consumed by evil until I got out my sabre and stabbed that giant leechmonster.

 

[invisible trousers]

Funny how none of his threads ever reference anything Jesus ever said.

In the case of evil people, the government should execute those people found guilty of evil activity. The Old Testament of the Bible provides instruction on what is evil that will destroy a society.

Cast the first stone, buddy!

 

[Allahuakbar]

The Old Testament of the Bible provides instruction on what is evil that will destroy a society.

Doesn't the Old Testament forbid shellfish? Are shellfish evil and societally destructive? Who makes these determinations?

 

[imind]

Some say Christians are instructed by the Bible to care for the poor (in most cases these are people that are poor because of a evil lifestyle),

christ was poor, true, but evil?

 

[Nathan Poe]

People of America being Consumed by Evil

I believe Christians have lost their sense of purpose in the world.

Oddly enough, clirus, I agree with you -- up to this point.

Christians, by and large, have lost their sense of purpose. Unfortunately, that includes yourself.

Let us read on and illustrate.

I believe Christians should live as instructed in the New Testament and establish/support a government that protects Christians as instructed in the Old Testament.

You believe that the government needs to protect Christians -- does that mean you do not believe God will do this?

Remember, the government didn't protect Jesus -- it nailed him to a cross.

The New Testament teaches that Christians should love their neighbor as themselves, but the Old Testament teaches that the government of Christians must eliminate evil in order that good can survive.

A couple of conflicting messages there, doncha think?

Some say the government has a responsibility to protect both good and evil, but that is impossible.

Agreed. The government doesn't protect evil -- thankfully, neither does it let any one person decide what evil is; including you.

Because of the sin nature of man, evil will prevail if it is not actively opposed and eliminated. If a nation is not a Christian nation, it will not survive because evil will prevail and consume the people.

Question: How many non-Christian nations do you see on the globe? I see quite a few, and they're doing just peachy, thankyouverymuch.

So right away, reality blows one of your major premises out of the water.

The purpose of the government of good people is to protect the good people from both domestic and foreign enemies/evil.

Right -- and the government gets to decide which people are good and which are evil. They, not you, separate the allies from the enemies.

The people of America are being consumed by the disease, death and destruction of evil, because they have allowed evil to be advocated and protected. Pornography, abortion and homosexuality have been advocated and legalized. Now the people are being consumed by AIDS and STDs. The effect of the disease, death and destruction of allowing evil to be advocated and protected is not confined to just evil people. People with AIDS are a breeding ground for TB and other diseases that are transmitted by just being near the person. Good people are being forced to pay for insurance to keep the evil people alive. Good people are being taxed to pay for health care and welfare to keep the evil people alive.

So, anyone on welfare is evil?

Some say Christians are instructed by the Bible to care for the poor (in most cases these are people that are poor because of a evil lifestyle), but the best way to care for the poor is to is to get them out of the evil lifestyle that is making them poor and into the Christian Lifestyle that will lead to being blessed by God. So long as people living the evil lifestyle have a choice of a government handout (health care/welfare) they will take the temporary fix instead of the permanent fix of accepting Jesus Christ as Lord/Savior and living in accordance with the commandments of the Bible.

So give them a Bible and leave them to rot?

The government of good people must eliminate evil by whatever it takes to eliminate the evil. Evil has no protection by law. The purpose of law is protect good people from evil.

In the case of evil people, the government should execute those people found guilty of evil activity. The Old Testament of the Bible provides instruction on what is evil that will destroy a society. Putting evil people in jails and forcing good people to pay for their living is a silly temporary fix that avoids the permanent fix of execution. By executing criminal found guilty by a jury trial, the government would be protecting the good people.

Voici le Final Solution.

The government of good people must reject evil by pointing out the disease, death and destruction of evil activity. An example of the government rejecting evil is the, "Is there anything dumber than smoking" advertising. The government of good people should have advertising, "Is there anything dumber than adultery (or homosexuality, or drug use, or abortion, or etc.). In this manner the government would be protecting the good people.

So, you're going to back up your mass executions with propaganda, then.

Herr Himmler, meet Herr Goebbels. You two will be working very closely together on this new project.

The government of good people should go to war with nations or groups of people that are a threat to the government/society as is instructed by the Old Testament of the Bible.

That would include literally the rest of the planet.

The purpose of the war should be to do what ever it takes to win, in the shortest possible time, which includes the elimination/killing of men, women and children associated with the threat, as was done in WW II. The war should be fought in a manner so as to minimize the men and material being consumed by the government. The war should be concluded only when the threat has been eliminated.

We have a word for this: Genocide.

Some say good people should talk with the enemy, but I believe the enemy should be talking with good people to convince the good people that the enemy should not be eliminated.

And if people you don't like decide not to beg you for their lives?

I believe that if people are presented an honest unbiased presentation of the Atheistic Lifestyle and the Christian Lifestyle, they would choose the Christian Lifestyle and the Atheistic Lifestyle would fade back into the closet. The Christian Lifestyle is the most environmentally friendly/socially responsible/healthy lifestyle for all people. The Atheistic Lifestyle is an evil unhealthy lifestyle of disease, death and destruction.

Says the man advocating genocide.

The only way good people can insure the government protects them is by electing people that advocate good and reject evil.

Meaning your chances of attaining public office are exactly zero.

Republicans have yet to prove to me that they really support Christian principles, but democrats have proven they do "not" support Christian Principles.

I suppose we all should be thankful that you didn't go off on your "Cultural War" schtick.

 

[clirus]

craigerNY quote

There is a member here that started a thread honoring murderers of abortion doctors, you guys should get together. You'd have a blast.

Response

Never read the thread, but I would never agree that anyone, especially a Christian, should ever murder anyone. The government was established to protect the people and a doctor who murders the unborn should be executed by the government. All Christians have to do is to elect people to government office that will uphold the law instead of pervert the law.

Even the Classical Version of the Hippocratic Oath forbade abortion. Unfortunately even the Hippocratic Oath has been perverted.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/doctors/oath_classical.html

Hippocratic Oath -- Classical Version

I swear by Apollo Physician and Asclepius and Hygieia and Panaceia and all the gods and goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will fulfil according to my ability and judgment this oath and this covenant:

To hold him who has taught me this art as equal to my parents and to live my life in partnership with him, and if he is in need of money to give him a share of mine, and to regard his offspring as equal to my brothers in male lineage and to teach them this art - if they desire to learn it - without fee and covenant; to give a share of precepts and oral instruction and all the other learning to my sons and to the sons of him who has instructed me and to pupils who have signed the covenant and have taken an oath according to the medical law, but no one else.

I will apply dietetic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgment; I will keep them from harm and injustice.

I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody who asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art.

I will not use the knife, not even on sufferers from stone, but will withdraw in favor of such men as are engaged in this work.

Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice, of all mischief and in particular of sexual relations with both female and male persons, be they free or slaves.

What I may see or hear in the course of the treatment or even outside of the treatment in regard to the life of men, which on no account one must spread abroad, I will keep to myself, holding such things shameful to be spoken about.

If I fulfil this oath and do not violate it, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and art, being honored with fame among all men for all time to come; if I transgress it and swear falsely, may the opposite of all this be my lot.


Translation from the Greek by Ludwig Edelstein. From The Hippocratic Oath: Text, Translation, and Interpretation, by Ludwig Edelstein. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins Press, 1943.

 

[Allahuakbar]

Even the Classical Version of the Hippocratic Oath forbade abortion. Unfortunately even the Hippocratic Oath has been perverted.

Your argument is INCREDIBLY hypocritical. For someone who condemns anything that does not fit your extremely narrow view of Christianity (which I believe has been formed in the complete absence of comprehension of anything considered traditional Christian theology), the fact that you would begin your argument with…

“I swear by Apollo Physician and Asclepius and Hygieia and Panaceia and all the gods and goddesses”

…is just unbelievable.

Additionally your argument fails completely when considered in context. Do you know anything about Ancient Greece? Abortion was not really all that necessary in a society where you could simply kill the child once born if you did not want it. If infanticide did not suit your bill a child could always be sold to a slaver.

So in supporting the Hippocratic Oath, which is noble, are you also supporting the societal mores which gave it genesis? Have you considered this at all?

 

[flicka]

I like my atheistic lifestyle. It makes me feel good since it involves helping others because I like to.. not because I'm commanded to. And with no strings or agendas attached

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

So in supporting the Hippocratic Oath, which is noble, are you also supporting the societal mores which gave it genesis? Have you considered this at all?

Likely not, because most fundies are incapable of considering the context their sacred texts were written in. The idea that a Bronze Age set of laws might not be applicable (at least in their original, literal form) to an Information Age society never occurs to them.

 

[ShieldOFaith]

People of America being Consumed by Evil

I believe Christians have lost their sense of purpose in the world. I believe Christians should live as instructed in the New Testament and establish/support a government that protects Christians as instructed in the Old Testament. The New Testament teaches that Christians should love their neighbor as themselves, but the Old Testament teaches that the government of Christians must eliminate evil in order that good can survive. Some say the government has a responsibility to protect both good and evil, but that is impossible. Because of the sin nature of man, evil will prevail if it is not actively opposed and eliminated. If a nation is not a Christian nation, it will not survive because evil will prevail and consume the people. The purpose of the government of good people is to protect the good people from both domestic and foreign enemies/evil.

The people of America are being consumed by the disease, death and destruction of evil, because they have allowed evil to be advocated and protected. Pornography, abortion and homosexuality have been advocated and legalized. Now the people are being consumed by AIDS and STDs. The effect of the disease, death and destruction of allowing evil to be advocated and protected is not confined to just evil people. People with AIDS are a breeding ground for TB and other diseases that are transmitted by just being near the person. Good people are being forced to pay for insurance to keep the evil people alive. Good people are being taxed to pay for health care and welfare to keep the evil people alive.

Some say Christians are instructed by the Bible to care for the poor (in most cases these are people that are poor because of a evil lifestyle), but the best way to care for the poor is to is to get them out of the evil lifestyle that is making them poor and into the Christian Lifestyle that will lead to being blessed by God. So long as people living the evil lifestyle have a choice of a government handout (health care/welfare) they will take the temporary fix instead of the permanent fix of accepting Jesus Christ as Lord/Savior and living in accordance with the commandments of the Bible.

The government of good people must eliminate evil by whatever it takes to eliminate the evil. Evil has no protection by law. The purpose of law is protect good people from evil.

In the case of evil people, the government should execute those people found guilty of evil activity. The Old Testament of the Bible provides instruction on what is evil that will destroy a society. Putting evil people in jails and forcing good people to pay for their living is a silly temporary fix that avoids the permanent fix of execution. By executing criminal found guilty by a jury trial, the government would be protecting the good people.

The government of good people must reject evil by pointing out the disease, death and destruction of evil activity. An example of the government rejecting evil is the, "Is there anything dumber than smoking" advertising. The government of good people should have advertising, "Is there anything dumber than adultery (or homosexuality, or drug use, or abortion, or etc.). In this manner the government would be protecting the good people.

The government of good people should go to war with nations or groups of people that are a threat to the government/society as is instructed by the Old Testament of the Bible. The purpose of the war should be to do what ever it takes to win, in the shortest possible time, which includes the elimination/killing of men, women and children associated with the threat, as was done in WW II. The war should be fought in a manner so as to minimize the men and material being consumed by the government. The war should be concluded only when the threat has been eliminated. Some say good people should talk with the enemy, but I believe the enemy should be talking with good people to convince the good people that the enemy should not be eliminated.

I believe that if people are presented an honest unbiased presentation of the Atheistic Lifestyle and the Christian Lifestyle, they would choose the Christian Lifestyle and the Atheistic Lifestyle would fade back into the closet. The Christian Lifestyle is the most environmentally friendly/socially responsible/healthy lifestyle for all people. The Atheistic Lifestyle is an evil unhealthy lifestyle of disease, death and destruction.

The only way good people can insure the government protects them is by electing people that advocate good and reject evil.

Republicans have yet to prove to me that they really support Christian principles, but democrats have proven they do "not" support Christian Principles.

Praise GOD!!!

Someone else see the filth!

Someone else understands!

PREACH IT BROTHER!!!

DON'T STOP!

KEEP THE FAITH!!!

PREACH IT!!!

 

[ShieldOFaith]

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[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]6 since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, 7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, --2 Thess. 1[/FONT]

 

[PassionFruit]

The people of America are being consumed by the disease, death and destruction of evil, because they have allowed evil to be advocated and protected. Pornography, abortion and homosexuality have been advocated and legalized. Now the people are being consumed by AIDS and STDs. The effect of the disease, death and destruction of allowing evil to be advocated and protected is not confined to just evil people. People with AIDS are a breeding ground for TB and other diseases that are transmitted by just being near the person. Good people are being forced to pay for insurance to keep the evil people alive. Good people are being taxed to pay for health care and welfare to keep the evil people alive.

Not one of these threads again. Okay, ummmm.....it seems you don't really understand how diseases are transmitted. Now, who exactly are these "evil" people? People with AIDS? Homosexuals? Gay rights advocates? Atheists? And what position are you in to say they're evil?

The government of good people must reject evil by pointing out the disease, death and destruction of evil activity. An example of the government rejecting evil is the, "Is there anything dumber than smoking" advertising. The government of good people should have advertising, "Is there anything dumber than adultery (or homosexuality, or drug use, or abortion, or etc.). In this manner the government would be protecting the good people.

Now why is homosexuality dumb? You're against abortion, but I bet you're not in favor of policies that would help reduce the need for abortions.

The government of good people should go to war with nations or groups of people that are a threat to the government/society as is instructed by the Old Testament of the Bible. The purpose of the war should be to do what ever it takes to win, in the shortest possible time, which includes the elimination/killing of men, women and children associated with the threat, as was done in WW II. The war should be fought in a manner so as to minimize the men and material being consumed by the government. The war should be concluded only when the threat has been eliminated. Some say good people should talk with the enemy, but I believe the enemy should be talking with good people to convince the good people that the enemy should not be eliminated.

Whoa! What an outrageous statement. What we did in the WW2 was put Japanese people in interment camps because we felt the Japanese were a threat. I hope you're not advocating this.

I believe that if people are presented an honest unbiased presentation of the Atheistic Lifestyle and the Christian Lifestyle, they would choose the Christian Lifestyle and the Atheistic Lifestyle would fade back into the closet. The Christian Lifestyle is the most environmentally friendly/socially responsible/healthy lifestyle for all people. The Atheistic Lifestyle is an evil unhealthy lifestyle of disease, death and destruction.

There's no such thing as the "Atheistic Lifestyle."

Besides, you keep pointing out that people should reject evil, though you haven't begun to define what that is.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Praise GOD!!!

Someone else see the filth!

Someone else understands!

PREACH IT BROTHER!!!

DON'T STOP!

KEEP THE FAITH!!!

PREACH IT!!!

You've already found your Himmler; I suppose it was inevitable that your C.S.A. would eventually find its Goebbels.

 

[ShieldOFaith]

Gee, another recruit for the Schutzstaffel in SoF's CSA?

Is Stormfront sending people to post in these forums?

I told you there are a lot more of us out here than you think. Most of us are very quite and reserved. I am just not that way. I am an Italian! We are very vocal.

Here is my opera:

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. 2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. 3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] 4 Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD. 5 There were they in great fear: for God is in the generation of the righteous. 6 Ye have shamed the counsel of the poor, because the LORD is his refuge. 7 Oh that the salvation of Israel were come out of Zion! when the LORD bringeth back the captivity of his people, Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad. --Psalm 14[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] Bravo!!! Bravo!!! Bravo!!![/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]SOLA CHRISTI.
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