Obama pro/con

[Conspiracy Theory]

I'd be very nervous about voting for a candidate who wasn't going to take terrorism seriously.

What about a candidate that claims that the Iraqi front of GWOT is a mistake, but yet wants to invade a nation that is at least, nominally, our ally?

 

[ImmortalTechnique]

I'll expect the apology in the mail, and some compensation for slander.

Here's a list of Obama quotes.

nothing that you posted approaches Obama advocating invasion of Pakistan, headline notwithstanding. in fact, the entire text of the speech is available online, and doesn't involve invading Pakistan at all. So good try, but you should probably send an apology and compensation for slander to Obama.

Not sure what of it you read as advocating invasion, instead of working with Pakistan to root out the terrorists in their borders, or doing surgical strikes against identified targets if the Pakistani government won't or can't act- but no invasion. Your point about overextending the military is clearly misplaced

 

[Conspiracy Theory]

nothing that you posted approaches Obama advocating invasion of Pakistan, headline notwithstanding. in fact, the entire text of the speech is available online, and doesn't involve invading Pakistan at all. So good try, but you should probably send an apology and compensation for slander to Obama.

Not sure what of it you read as advocating invasion, instead of working with Pakistan to root out the terrorists in their borders, or doing surgical strikes against identified targets if the Pakistani government won't or can't act- but no invasion. Your point about overextending the military is clearly misplaced

So he just wants to engage in hostile action against an ally nation without the consent of that allied nation.

Got it.

 

[ImmortalTechnique]

What about a candidate that claims that the Iraqi front of GWOT is a mistake, but yet wants to invade a nation that is at least, nominally, our ally?

repeating misinformation doesn't help your point- he doesn't advocate invading Pakistan. But I AM glad he's intent on dealing with terrorists, instead of fighting a war of choice in Iraq, where terrorists were only able to find any foothold because of our invasion, as well as giving Iran much more influence in the region, your point falls pretty flat.

Iraq hasn't made us any safer from terrorists- it's made it possible for terrorists to kill 4,000 of our soldiers, and thousands upon thousands of Iraqi civilians. We can't do anything about terrorism while we're in Iraq

 

[Braunwyn]

So he just wants to engage in hostile action against an ally nation without the consent of that allied nation.

Got it.

This is silly.

 

[ImmortalTechnique]

This is silly.

the arguments of extreme partisans from either side tend to be

 

[Braunwyn]

the arguments of extreme partisans from either side tend to be

No doubt.

 

[DieHappy]

the reason the Republicans are so scared of Obama, and are trying to insult and smear him with anything that might possibly stick or tarnish him, is because of things like this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/08/dem-wins-election-to-fil_n_90581.html
Democrat Bill Foster has snatched former House Speaker Dennis

it's those coattails, baby. A dem hasn't held this seat in decades.

This made me sad. I've lost hope for the fall because of it. There's no way there's a 52% democrat population out here which means that he won because of either anti-oberweis sentiment or, more likely, anti-republican sentiment. Obama and Hillary are so beatable, but after saturday I've lost hope that we can do it.

From the first website listed:

"If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will."

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Nothing here about being determined to "invade Pakistan" no matter what- which is the falsehood that you insinuated.

If Bush had said that the liberals would be all over him for being a cowboy and a moron on foreign relations. If Musharraf won't act, it will most likely be because he has no recognized authority over those regions and it will be up to us to use diplomacy to get the job done.

 

[MachZer0]

From the first website listed:

"If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will."

If Bush had said that the liberals would be all over him for being a cowboy and a moron on foreign relations. If Musharraf won't act, it will most likely be because he has no recognized authority over those regions and it will be up to us to use diplomacy to get the job done.

And suddenly, the intelligence becomes reliable, just like that, despite the alleged intelligence failures so popularly noted by many Democrats

 

[TexasSky]

Does anyone else feel a little "cheated" by the "Florida delegates were illegal and unseatable until we found out they voted for Hillary, now we want to seat them," thing?

 

[NeTrips]

Does anyone else feel a little "cheated" by the "Florida delegates were illegal and unseatable until we found out they voted for Hillary, now we want to seat them," thing?

the democrat party is going to do whateer it can to get Obama elected, even if it means changing the rules in the middle of the game.

 

[TexasSky]

the democrat party is going to do whateer it can to get Obama elected, even if it means changing the rules in the middle of the game.

Seating Florida will not help Obama.

Seating Florida helps Clinton.

 

[NeTrips]

Seating Florida will not help Obama.

Seating Florida helps Clinton.

Only if the current vote is used. A re-vote which is being promoted by the democrat party is going to favor obama

 

[MacCoyle]

Only if the current vote is used. A re-vote which is being promoted by the democrat party is going to favor obama

She would win Florida.

 

[Conspiracy Theory]

Obama is going to resupply with Army with grid squares.

 

[ImmortalTechnique]

the democrat party is going to do whateer it can to get Obama elected, even if it means changing the rules in the middle of the game.

that's absurd- Obama leads in popular vote, delegates, states won, in every possible way. the fact that Clinton still thinks she has any shot at winning shows how deeply some of the establishment in the party are in her pocket. She's the one trying to change the rules, because Obama is beating her by playing by them

 

[TexasSky]

She would win Florida.

I agree.
To the person who thinks it would favor Obama, if that were true, why is Hillary the one asking for it?

 

[bunnytoes]

Please read my blog on Obama, Islam and the Christian vote

http://christianforums.com/t6738674-obama-islam-and-the-christian-vote.html

 

[JGL53]

Please read my blog on Obama, Islam and the Christian vote

http://christianforums.com/t6738674-obama-islam-and-the-christian-vote.html

Obama is the Manchurian candidate? I thought that was McCain - he was the one brainwashed for five years while caged like a monkey.

 

[MacCoyle]

Please read my blog on Obama, Islam and the Christian vote

http://christianforums.com/t6738674-obama-islam-and-the-christian-vote.html

lol