Does the Roman Church focus on Peter too much

[LittleLambofJesus]

LOL OK, you keep telling yourself that and ignore all the threads on CF where protestants have shown, using Scripture, multiple errors in roman doctrine.


And romans wonder why we say they value tradition above Scripture.

You mean like this one?

http://christianforums.com/t6870602-roman-church-errors-and-inventions.html#post44303949
Roman church errors and inventions

 

[JacktheCatholic]

LOL OK, you keep telling yourself that and ignore all the threads on CF where protestants have shown, using Scripture, multiple errors in roman doctrine.


And romans wonder why we say they value tradition above Scripture.

Nevermind, see post to LLOJ

 

[JacktheCatholic]

You mean like this one?

http://christianforums.com/t6870602-roman-church-errors-and-inventions.html#post44303949
Roman church errors and inventions

That is one of many where the teachings are shown to be backed by scripture and the ECF and which always turns into the anti-catholics dismissing anything contrary to their anti-catholic teachings no matter how true it is.

 

[mont974x4]

You mean like this one?

http://christianforums.com/t6870602-roman-church-errors-and-inventions.html#post44303949
Roman church errors and inventions

yeah, like that one.

looking at the sacrament forum and the mary worship forum will show many more.

 

[holdon]

QUOTE:

.......No one would deny a little girl the opportunity to tell someone that she loves her father. Common sense tells us that Jesus wasn’t forbidding this type of use of the word "father."

In fact, to forbid it would rob the address "Father" of its meaning when applied to God, for there would no longer be any earthly counterpart for the analogy of divine Fatherhood. The concept of God’s role as Father would be meaningless if we obliterated the concept of earthly fatherhood.

But in the Bible the concept of fatherhood is not restricted to just our earthly fathers and God. It is used to refer to people other than biological or legal fathers, and is used as a sign of respect to those with whom we have a special relationship.

For example, Joseph tells his brothers of a special fatherly relationship God had given him with the king of Egypt: "So it was not you who sent me here, but God; and he has made me a father to Pharaoh, and lord of all his house and ruler over all the land of Egypt" (Gen. 45:8).

Job indicates he played a fatherly role with the less fortunate: "I was a father to the poor, and I searched out the cause of him whom I did not know" (Job 29:16). And God himself declares that he will give a fatherly role to Eliakim, the steward of the house of David: "In that day I will call my servant Eliakim, the son of Hilkiah . . . and I will clothe him with [a] robe, and will bind [a] girdle on him, and will commit . . . authority to his hand; and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah" (Is. 22:20–21).

This type of fatherhood not only applies to those who are wise counselors (like Joseph) or benefactors (like Job) or both (like Eliakim), it also applies to those who have a fatherly spiritual relationship with one. For example, Elisha cries, "My father, my father!" to Elijah as the latter is carried up to heaven in a whirlwind (2 Kgs. 2:12). Later, Elisha himself is called a father by the king of Israel (2 Kgs. 6:21).....
(END QUOTE)

source:
Call No Man "Father"?
http://www.catholic.com/library/Call_No_Man_Father.asp

I see how Roman Catholics weasel out of the Word of God. Wasn't Christ clear enough: "But ye, be not ye called, etc."

 

[Uphill Battle]

Nevermind, see post to LLOJ

you have to be fair, Jack.

to the average Protestant on the other side of the argument, they can't understand why you can't see past the blinders on YOUR eyes.

it's a common enough accusation, that flows from both sides.

 

[JacktheCatholic]

you have to be fair, Jack.

to the average Protestant on the other side of the argument, they can't understand why you can't see past the blinders on YOUR eyes.

it's a common enough accusation, that flows from both sides.

Yeah...

I am trying that new method we talked about.

Darn it, I like a little heat in my debate too.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by mont974x4
True, the pope can be just as wrong wherever he happens to live.

In personal matters, true. In matters of faith and doctrine: Never.

http://foru.ms/t5805969&page=74
What would it take for Orthodoxs to come under Pope

quote: The Pope would renounce his Roman Catholicism and become Orthodox. There is nothing that would cause the Church as a whole to join with him.

 

[SwissGuard]

LOL OK, you keep telling yourself that and ignore all the threads on CF where protestants have shown, using Scripture, multiple errors in roman doctrine. And romans wonder why we say they value tradition above Scripture.

You have shown no errors. You cannot. Your interpretation is just that: You're interpretation. Your simplistic understanding of the Word of God can never surpass that of the ancient 2000 year old Church bound together with the great saints, doctors, popes and theologians of the ages.

And by the way, I'm an American, not a Roman.

 

[Uphill Battle]

Yeah...

I am trying that new method we talked about.

Darn it, I like a little heat in my debate too.

heat's fine. If you werent' zealous, I would think you didn't care.

 

[SwissGuard]

...What would it take for Orthodoxs to come under Pope...

The same as it would take for you: An excesise in humility, and an admission that there is an authority higher than yourself.

 

[mont974x4]

The same as it would take for you: An excesise in humility, and an admission that there is an authority higher than yourself.

We recognize God ordained authority.

It would help if the pope repented of his arrogance and centuries of error on some key doctrinal issues as well...starting with the unam sanctum.


and with that, welcome to the ignore list.

 

[SwissGuard]

Nope, rome severed ties with them. Luther did not intend to be kicked out.

So one day, the pope said: "I'm severing ties with Herr Luther." That is not history, that is just Demagoguery

 

[JacktheCatholic]

We recognize God ordained authority.

It would help if the pope repented of his arrogance and centuries of error on some key doctrinal issues as well...starting with the unam sanctum.


and with that, welcome to the ignore list.

Ignore list...

Isn't that how Protestantism started?

Add to that the Pharisees and their ignore list for Jesus and his Words.

Ignore list just seems so cowardly and unChrstian to me.

 

[SwissGuard]

Ignore list...

Isn't that how Protestantism started?

Add to that the Pharisees and their ignore list for Jesus and his Words.

Ignore list just seems so cowardly and unChrstian to me.

The original ignore list. That is funny.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by SwissGuard
The same as it would take for you: An excesise in humility, and an admission that there is an authority higher than yourself.

Who is that "authority" speaking in Reve 21

http://www.scripture4all.org/

Luke 21:28 Beginning yet to-be-becoming/ginesqai <1096> (5738) these-things, up-bend!, and lift up! the heads of ye, thru-that is nearing the loosing/apo-lutrwsiV <629> of ye [Daniel 12/Reve 19,20]

Reve 21:6 And He said to me: "it-has-become/gegonen <1096> (5754). I am the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end. I, to the one thirsting, shall be giving out of the spring of the water of the life gratuitously.

 

[SwissGuard]

We recognize God ordained authority......

That is hypocrisy. You say you recognize God ordained authority, but the only authoritative interpretor of scripture you recognize is yourself.

 

[JacktheCatholic]

The original ignore list. That is funny.

What is even funnier is I keep responding to him and I am pretty sure I am on his ignore list already. LOL

 

[JacktheCatholic]

Who is that "authority" speaking in Reve 21

http://www.scripture4all.org/

Luke 21:28 Beginning yet to-be-becoming/ginesqai <1096> (5738) these-things, up-bend!, and lift up! the heads of ye, thru-that is nearing the loosing/apolutrwsiV <629> of ye [Daniel 12/Reve 19,20]

Reve 21:6 And He said to me: "it-has-become/gegonen <1096> (5754). I am the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end. I, to the one thirsting, shall be giving out of the spring of the water of the life gratuitously.

Since Revelation was written by John with the help of the Holy Spirit, I would read Revelation as God speaking through John and through the centuries.

 

[SwissGuard]

What is even funnier is I keep responding to him and I am pretty sure I am on his ignore list already. LOL

Well, you'll always win the debate that way.