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thaumaturgy
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BEHOLD, THE PREFLOOD WOODPECKER!!!
Go straight to Patriot University and get your PhD in Baraminology! A+
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I think I speak on behalf of every single agnostic on this board when I say that that you don't have to challenge an Atheist to find out where he gets the idea that God doesn't exist. It's obvious. They believe in science. It's fairly well documented that that is the case.
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No kidding! But whose beliefs do Agnostics constantly challenge and ridicule? Christians. There's no balance here. But that's their prerogative, though.
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so why question it then?
Not true. I ridicule creationists. There's a large difference. I'm agnostic because I believe there might just be a God. A God who created evolution and science, and basically let us discover all this stuff out for ourselves, like any good parent should.
Or there might not be. Deal with it.
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It's none of my business why you're [an] agnostic - (I put "an" in brackets, because I wasn't sure if you meant agnostic as an adjective or a noun).
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Alrighty --- again that's none of my business --- or the point I'm making.
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Which was edited by administration --- so I don't really care to rehash.
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Was Noah's part in the flood miraculous because handling all of those millions of insects must've been quite a chore.
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Psudopod
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No, Thaumaturgy was right. You can't.
The evidence goes against a global flood. And why would science look to explain away what reality shows? You do realise that the first people to falsify the global flood were Christian geologists looking for evidence for it? Why would they automatically discount evidence for the flood?
The big bang is the best model we've got so far. There are problems, but it's made correct predictions. Please explain why it is a relgeous belief (othere than it doesn't tie into AVet's personal interpretation of the bible).
It's a myth becuase it's been falisfied. It's not just that we don't have evidence for it - we have evidence that says it couldn't have happened!
Then what about all the religeous scientists? Bet you they still believe in miracles. And I can't speak for anyone else, but there was certainly no anti-miracle training in my degree program.
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I can't speak for "religious scientists," or "religious geologists" who supposedly were the first to "falsify" a global flood,* but I'm sure they had a heyday watering down Genesis 1-11 - (not to mention the rest of Scripture).
* Don't forget: we Christians get the credit for being the first to espouse a flat earth, and we also burned Rome while Nero played a fiddle. Make sure Hubble gets the credit for "discovering" the universe is expanding, though.
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You were the one claiming scientists automatically dismiss miracles. I was just pointing out that you can't justify that. As for watering down scripture, I can't see what you lose. A christian who accepts the evidence of god's creation as well as the bible is still going to accept the important messages - there is one god, who created all and Jesus died for their sins. They're not the ones that have to deal with either ignoring god's creation or acepting that god decieved us by creating a false history.
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Which is what, exactly?
And what happened to Original Sin? Is that swept under the carpet?
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Everything we see when we look at the earth and the universe. You know, the things you believe god created?
As far as I understand it, everyone has the predisposition to sin, so everyone needs saving. The names Adam and Eve mean earth and hearth in Hebrew. It's obvious to me that these are archetypes of humanity, not specific individuals. I'm not christian, so none of this bothers me, but as far as I know the vast majority of christians accept gods creation over words men wrote about god when the two disagree.
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If this is your explanation, then I'll stick to my original statement: I'm sure they had a heyday watering down Genesis 1-11.
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thaumaturgy
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It's almost as hard as telling a Catholic apart from a Lutheran from a Baptist from a Methodist from a Muslim from a Jew. I mean they all believe in the God of Abraham, right?
And then of course anything any of these guys do has no bearing whatsoever to the untouchable Independent Baptists who sprang sui generis from the heartland without any reference to the history of Christian thought. (That way they don't have to answer to anyone's questions around where we got the Bible that ultimately was translated into the KJV 1611 AV or any other thing which might be an uncomfortable aspect or excess from a part of the history of the faith.)
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thaumaturgy
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So what? If one were to think the Bible was on top of heliocentrism they must have been pretty busy watering down
[BIBLE]Ecclesiastes 1:5[/BIBLE]
and
[BIBLE]Joshua 10:12-13[/BIBLE]
or
[BIBLE]Psalm 104:5[/BIBLE]
or
[BIBLE]1 Chronicles 16:30[/BIBLE]
I mean if one isn't flowery metaphorical speech why is the other?
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