A re-examination of nothing

[Floatingaxe]

1. As stated, there's no proof from you or anyone else in this thread that this is the universal standard for all. Not one shred of evidence that this wasn't just the standard in the beginning when the earth needed to be populated.

2. You don't hold any proof that I or any one else on this thread or forum are "challenging any standard", or that any such "one and only standard" exist.

3. If this post was aimed at mine, it doesn't address any point I made, and it isn't a proper rebuttal.

The universal standard for all is Christ. Since the beginning of time, God has set the standard, and homosexuality is forbidden. That moral law has been set.

You are brazenly challenging the standard here every day.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Yes it does.Humans are members of the animal kingdom, and, even if they weren't, anything animals do is natural.Is this yet another attempt at word definition? Same gendered organisms having sex is what homosexuality is. Yeah... animals do that.Apparently it is, otherwise it wouldn't work, would it?You keep saying that. did you hear about the last guy who tried to preach to lions, expecting his God given dominion over the animals to protect him?http://www.metacafe.com/watch/241996/man_vs_lion/ (cool video clip, but maybe upsetting to anyone who thinks they literally have dominion over animals)Thats not what I'm doing in the slightest. I'm using the word "natural" correctly. If you don't like it, I suggest you take it up with the dictionary.

Humans are NOT animals as much as you would like to think it. We are a separate creation. God has said it. Secular scientists tell lies.

We have dominion over the entire animal kingdom. God has said that as well. Preaching to lions? That's just stupid. Do you undertsand the concept of "dominion" or are you being your normal sarastic self here?

You sure like to argue with God, don't you? What's the payoff for you?

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Lust is an emotion. Love is an act of the will. Homosexuals lust for each other and then choose to act in love for them, which is an exacerbation to the sin of lust. It anchors it and makes it a deep root that is hard to remove-.

Just picking a nit here .... lust bes not an "emotion" but a DRIVE. a HUNGER.

OK carry on ....

 

[Floatingaxe]

Just picking a nit here .... lust bes not an "emotion" but a DRIVE. a HUNGER.

OK carry on ....

OK, I stand corrected, as there are no emotions that are sins in and of themselves. Lust is a sin. When acted upon, it is a compounded sin.

 

[Chaplain David]

Just a reminder that it is a good thing and produces better results when we don't use "you" postings, thereby making our rebuttal or criticism personal and all try to post respectfully and with loving kindness.

 

[davedjy]

The universal standard for all is Christ. Since the beginning of time, God has set the standard, and homosexuality is forbidden. That moral law has been set.

You are brazenly challenging the standard here every day.

No such standard exists, you have yet to prove there is such a standard.

I'm challenging anti-gay beliefs and standards, not the one God set.

 

[Floatingaxe]

No such standard exists, you have yet to prove there is such a standard.

I'm challenging anti-gay beliefs and standards, not the one God set.

People are living in a dreamworld when they believe that God approves of their sinful perversions, as the standard God has set tells all of us that homosexuality is abhorrent to Him and homosexuals miss His Kingdom. No one is exempt from knowing that, but when they are informed of what God says, they are entitled to deny it, but they will be paying heavily with their lives for such folly.

He is no rewarder of sinners for their sin. He doesn;t turn a blind eye to it, either, and He will not be mocked. He has the last word, not homosexuals.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Once again, ever the evasive one.

I started a thread just for you to come and answer the questions about Biblical literalism, and you refuse to.

This makes ME evasive how, exactly?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Humans are NOT animals as much as you would like to think it. We are a separate creation. God has said it. Secular scientists tell lies.

We have dominion over the entire animal kingdom. God has said that as well. Preaching to lions? That's just stupid. Do you undertsand the concept of "dominion" or are you being your normal sarastic self here?

You sure like to argue with God, don't you? What's the payoff for you?

please provide empirical evidence to support your claim that "secular scientists tell lies"? Otherwise we can just agree that the claim is bogus.

We have dominion over the entire animal kingdom. God has said that as well. Preaching to lions? That's just stupid. Do you undertsand the concept of "dominion" or are you being your normal sarastic self here?

Well I would have thought having dominion over the animals would mean that animals have to act naturally to humans as if they were subjects... but they don't. So why don't you tell me what you think dominion means?

You sure like to argue with God, don't you? What's the payoff for you?

No. I love God. I agree with everything he does.

Its Hate filled Biblical literalists who misinterpret scripture, tell lies about people and are generally abusive that I have a problem with. Do let me know if you see any, won't you?

 

[CaDan]

Holy Saint Francis

Who preached to the birds of Bevagna to remind them of the good gifts of God to them.

Who preached to the wolf of Gubbio the message of peace.

Intercede for us so that we too may be reminded of the good gifts of God to us. May your memory inspire us to be instruments of the peace of God.

Ora pro nobis

 

[davedjy]

People are living in a dreamworld when they believe that God approves of their sinful perversions, as the standard God has set tells all of us that homosexuality is abhorrent to Him and homosexuals miss His Kingdom. No one is exempt from knowing that, but when they are informed of what God says, they are entitled to deny it, but they will be paying heavily with their lives for such folly.

He is no rewarder of sinners for their sin. He doesn;t turn a blind eye to it, either, and He will not be mocked. He has the last word, not homosexuals.

I don't put my faith and hope in a proven false translation that says "homosexuals miss the kingdom", so no, I don't see that as proof of anything, and clearly, it isn't.

You continue to confuse translations with the Word of God, and you still have not proven that they are one and the same. The Bible was not written in English.

 

[Chaplain David]

I don't put my faith and hope in a proven false translation that says "homosexuals miss the kingdom", so no, I don't see that as proof of anything, and clearly, it isn't.

You continue to confuse translations with the Word of God, and you still have not proven that they are one and the same. The Bible was not written in English.

I love my Bible. But it's criticized quite often here. What properly translated Bible do you use that allegedly shows the truth that mine does not?

 

[davedjy]

I love my Bible. But it's criticized quite often here. What properly translated Bible do you use that allegedly shows the truth that mine does not?

As far as I know, it isn't in a translated Bible, but the passage is 1 Cor. 6:9, and a translation of arsenokoitai as "homosexual". I don't claim the whole Bible is mistranslated, but that word is.

 

[Floatingaxe]

I don't put my faith and hope in a proven false translation that says "homosexuals miss the kingdom", so no, I don't see that as proof of anything, and clearly, it isn't.

You continue to confuse translations with the Word of God, and you still have not proven that they are one and the same. The Bible was not written in English.

Yet you place all your little eggs in one basket: your favourite translation. Not God's Word, not Jesus Christ, but a little translation that suits your point of view!

The confusion is within you.

 

[Brieuse]

Yet you place all your little eggs in one basket: your favourite translation. Not God's Word, not Jesus Christ, but a little translation that suits your point of view!

The confusion is within you.

It's mistranslated, homosexuality is not a sin. No confusion.

 

[Floatingaxe]

It's mistranslated, homosexuality is not a sin. No confusion.

It is only an obstinate spirit that believes that. The Bibles we all use today that are the most widely used are all correctly translated regarding sin, and especially homosexuality.

 

[Brieuse]

It is only an obstinate spirit that believes that. The Bibles we all use today that are the most widely used are all correctly translated regarding sin, and especially homosexuality.

Wrong, I am not demonically possessed. I have been baptised, and the Holy Spirit dwells in me.

 

[Floatingaxe]

Wrong, I am not demonically possessed. I have been baptised, and the Holy Spirit dwells in me.

I have been baptized in the Holy Spirit, and He tells me you are dead wrong, and that He loves you and wants you to listen to Him when He speaks...not your own heart, and not the hearts of your compadres--HIM ONLY. He will only speak to you about this for a limited time.

 

[Brieuse]

I have been baptized in the Holy Spirit, and He tells me you are dead wrong, and that He loves you and wants you to listen to Him when He speaks...not your own heart, and not the hearts of your compadres--HIM ONLY. He will only speak to you about this for a limited time.

I take exception to that, I think your Holy Spirit line is faulty. I think a demon of judgment is messing with you.

 

[Floatingaxe]

I take exception to that, I think your Holy Spirit line is faulty.

Take exception at your peril. I cannot save you. I can only tell you what He says.