Is Harry Potter Evil? (3)

[DarkLegend28]

As I've stated HP doesn't interest me as a book to read. Only it's possible effects on the youth because of the content. The devil isn't in the book itself but kids could easily be guided into occult by reading the books because it portrays evil as good i.e. the practice of witchcraft.

You apparently don't see that as a concern I do.

Well just so you know, you would be more credible in your mission if you actually studied the content of the books from the primary source. I have no issue with your position, but the probability of someone listening to someone who hasn't even read the books themselves is low. But then again, it depends on your audience. I mean, I've never read the books, but I've seen all the movies and played a few of the games and get the general concept that its very overrated... and JK Rowling's writing is crap. She couldn't keep me interested. But that is besides the point.

 

[Tissue]

Tradition, Reason, Experience. They--along with Scripture--form the Wesleyan Quadrilateral.

Crap, I just studied that too. How did I not pull that up?

 

[CaDan]

Crap, I just studied that too. How did I not pull that up?

Sorry, I'm going to have to ask you to turn in your

.

 

[Tissue]

Bah. I got three out of the four. And Tradition? I'll just call myself emergent and squeeze out of that one.

The Wesleyan-Emergent Equilateral Triangle.

 

[CaDan]

Bah. I got three out of the four. And Tradition? I'll just call myself emergent and squeeze out of that one.

The Wesleyan-Emergent Equilateral Triangle.

Or the Alternate Anglican.

 

[Tissue]

And I am way too far out of my theological knowledge to make any more jokes.

 

[JWNEWMAN]

Well just so you know, you would be more credible in your mission if you actually studied the content of the books from the primary source. I have no issue with your position, but the probability of someone listening to someone who hasn't even read the books themselves is low. But then again, it depends on your audience. I mean, I've never read the books, but I've seen all the movies and played a few of the games and get the general concept that its very overrated... and JK Rowling's writing is crap. She couldn't keep me interested. But that is besides the point.

I study the topics related in the books as they come up here. Similar to the way I might study any voluminous book or topic. This enables me to refer to the actual text and the actual context without having to read the entire work. The books themselves have no interest for me. Only the trend of our culture towards this garbage and how to combat it.

For some reason lately my spirit has been lifted regarding the matter. Like there's been a turn in the tide, so to speak.

If I study each topic of debate in its entirety from the Lexicon I should have equal authority with anyone who's read the book. In fact even a clearer picture perhaps; because I won't be bogged down with character issues and incidentals. Just the fact Maam...

 

[Danyc]

I study the topics related in the books as they come up here. Similar to the way I might study any voluminous book or topic. This enables me to refer to the actual text and the actual context without having to read the entire work. The books themselves have no interest for me. Only the trend of our culture towards this garbage and how to combat it.

That may be applicable if Harry Potter was a textbook; a textbook presents facts and studying another source for that textbook would present you with a good idea of what is going on and what it means. Harry Potter is not a textbook, though. You have to understand that you cannot get the context of a book, without the book. You can read essays all day if you want to, but you aren't going to understand the psychological aspects of the scenes you find to be so disturbing, until you read them.

If I study each topic of debate in its entirety from the Lexicon I should have equal authority with anyone who's read the book. In fact even a clearer picture perhaps; because I won't be bogged down with character issues and incidentals. Just the fact Maam...

You would have a clearer picture regarding facts about the books, but you will not have a clearer picture concerning the books themselves. We were, lately, talking about the damaging effects that the murder, the torture, the mind-invasion has and so on and so forth. But Lexicon will tell you the facts, or sometimes speculation, concerning what is in the books. It does not portray the context in which readers view it. They're not interested in that. To see what psychological aspects there are, one must go to the source: The books, all seven of them. I recommend reading them.

 

[Danyc]

Well just so you know, you would be more credible in your mission if you actually studied the content of the books from the primary source. I have no issue with your position, but the probability of someone listening to someone who hasn't even read the books themselves is low. But then again, it depends on your audience. I mean, I've never read the books, but I've seen all the movies and played a few of the games and get the general concept that its very overrated... and JK Rowling's writing is crap. She couldn't keep me interested. But that is besides the point.

Ack!

No! Her writing is amazing!
The movies do not do the books justice. The games are boring as well.

I hated Harry Potter before I started reading it too, but I was hooked instantly.

 

[Floatingaxe]

I hated Harry Potter before I started reading it too, but I was hooked instantly.

Which says to me volumes about the spirit behind the works. Interesting.

 

[The Lady Kate]

I study the topics related in the books as they come up here. Similar to the way I might study any voluminous book or topic. This enables me to refer to the actual text and the actual context without having to read the entire work.

Except that it ends up as an incomplete study... you know the subject matter, but not how it is used by the author.

Look at Mr. Mark Twain... his Adventures of Huckleberry Finn is a classic of American literature, yet far too many people get the wrong idea that the novel (as well as Twain himself) is racist, simply because the "N-word" is peppered throughout the novel. OTOH, people who actually read the book and know a thing or two about Mr. Twain know the truth.

The books themselves have no interest for me. Only the trend of our culture towards this garbage and how to combat it.

And how do you propose to combat it?

For some reason lately my spirit has been lifted regarding the matter. Like there's been a turn in the tide, so to speak.

Good to hear.

If I study each topic of debate in its entirety from the Lexicon I should have equal authority with anyone who's read the book. In fact even a clearer picture perhaps; because I won't be bogged down with character issues and incidentals. Just the fact Maam...

So... you think that characters are incidental to a story?

 

[CaDan]

Which says to me volumes about the spirit behind the works. Interesting.

Would you care to explain this in a bit more detail?

 

[DarkLegend28]

Which says to me volumes about the spirit behind the works. Interesting.

I hated Harry Potter before I started reading it too. I think he's ugly... but, JK Rowling's writing is nothing extradorniary. Over rated, indeed. Pick up Vivian Vande Velde instead.

 

[Danyc]

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[Danyc]

Which says to me volumes about the spirit behind the works. Interesting.

Or it just says volumes about how great a writer Rowling is?

Would it put your mind at ease if I told you that I had the same kind of reaction towards Tom Clancy's war novels and Dean Koontz' Odd Thomas series?

 

[The Lady Kate]

Which says to me volumes about the spirit behind the works. Interesting.

Would that be the spirit of better-than-average storytelling?

 

[Floatingaxe]

Would that be the spirit of better-than-average storytelling?

Hardly. It's the spirit of antichrist.

 

[The Lady Kate]

Hardly. It's the spirit of antichrist.

The Antichrist is an author? Read your Bible... he's a politician.

 

[JWNEWMAN]

Except that it ends up as an incomplete study... you know the subject matter, but not how it is used by the author.


Look at Mr. Mark Twain... his Adventures of Huckleberry Finn is a classic of American literature, yet far too many people get the wrong idea that the novel (as well as Twain himself) is racist, simply because the "N-word" is peppered throughout the novel. OTOH, people who actually read the book and know a thing or two about Mr. Twain know the truth.

The Lexicon gives usage and summary from a favorable point of view.

And how do you propose to combat it?

You don't expect me to give up all my secrets?

So... you think that characters are incidental to a story?

I'm not interested in the "story" the story is incidental to the issue.

 

[DarkLegend28]

JW, bias and credibility don't go together.