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Worldviews and Interpretations: a literary approach

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Those who know me know my background is literature, not science. This is an essay gathering my thoughts around the insights of a literary approach to interpretation.

Why deal with the Bible as literature in Origins Theology? Basically, what truly distinguishes theologies of origins is neither the evidence of science, nor the testimony of scripture, but what we believe scripture is saying to us. And that comes from the kind of literature we think scripture is.

There is probably no better guide to a literary approach to the Bible than the late Northrop Frye http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Frye. Frye won international acclaim for his pioneering work in literary criticism. He was, by no means, the first literary critic, but he was the first to develop a theory of literary criticism, which he elucidated in his magnum opus Anatomy of Criticism. He was especially interested in the Bible, not only as literature in its own right, but also in the way it had impacted English literature as a whole. It was always his ambition to apply to the Bible the principles of literary criticism which he had developed. To that end he developed and taught the very popular “Bible and English Literature” undergrad class at Victoria College, University of Toronto, for 30 years. Eventually, he gathered the essentials of his thought into two volumes: The Great Code: The Bible and English Literature and Words of Power.

Early in The Great Code, Frye refers to the work of Giambattista Vico. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giambattista_Vico
Vico was an early theorist on human civilizations. According to Wikipedia,
“Relying on a complex etymology, Vico argues in the Scienza Nuova that civilization develops in a recurring cycle (ricorso) of three ages: the divine, the heroic, and the human. Each age exhibits distinct political and social features and can be characterized by master tropes or figures of language.”

The divine phase
In all the great civilizations of antiquity, the first creative literature is poetry. Writing was used earlier for mundane tasks such as keeping records of inventories, taxes collected, deeds and contracts. But literature as an art first appears as poetry. And from India to Greece the pre-eminent poetic form was the mythological epic. The Mahabharata and the Ramayana, the Enuma Elish and the story of Gilgamesh, the Iliad and Odyssey---these were not the only literature of the time, but these enshrined the characters, the events, the images and concepts repeated ad infinitum in other poetry and other works of art. The epics supremely, both reflected and shaped a worldview. The chief protagonists of the epic myths were deities, hence, Vico refers to this phase as “divine”. Indeed, the original sense of the Greek term ‘mythos’ was ‘a story about the gods’.

There are many ways in which we can characterize this worldview, but one of its most prominent features is that it presents the world as an experience of metaphor. By this I do not mean that the literature used a lot of metaphors, but rather that the world itself and its contents were held to be metaphors. It is a worldview that is simultaneously aware of the world of sense and the world of spirit and sees each as implicit in the other. The gods of paganism, for example, are natural metaphors. Ra is the sun and the sun is Ra. Heaven and earth are a dual vision of the same reality; the affairs of heaven are lived out as well in the affairs of earth and vice versa. A war between nations is also a war in heaven between their respective deities. And the quarrels of the Greek gods are lived in the history of the Greeks. Even in the lesser realm of daily common life, the world of nature is a world of spirits. A tree is not just a tree; it is also a spiritual being, a dryad.

This dual vision had a focal point in the king who was also the chief god of the nation. The king as god was a concept that endured from ancient times into the Roman empire.

The noble (aka heroic) phase
The paradigm shift that leads into this phase originates in early Greek philosophical literature. Contrary to epic poetry, this is prose literature in the style of Plato’s Symposium. In such works the parameters of logic and deduction were generated and the art form of the argument developed. Non-fiction prose literature of the next millennium and more produces philosophy, apologetics and systematic theology. A quintessential feature of such literature is abstraction.

In the divine phase, the spiritual world is experienced in the concrete particularity of the physical world. In this phase, the spiritual world is experienced as an ideal abstracted from the concrete particularity of the world of sense. The connection between the ideal form and the concrete particular is one of shared essence. To know the essence of a thing is to know what it really is; but no particular thing is a perfect or complete instance of its essence. The essence has to be deduced by abstraction from the many imperfect physical exemplars of it. So the metaphorical experience of the divine worldview gives way to a view characterized by metonymy. A physical being is not a spiritual being. But it can stand for and point to a spiritual reality beyond itself.

This concept of the world of sense as representative of, though not identical to, the world of metaphysics gives rise to a fiction in which the figure of allegory becomes prominent. The characters and events in a story stand for and represent ideals and concepts. The protagonists are not the gods themselves, but ideal humans. We get the literature of the heroic quest, of the knight-seeking the Holy Grail, of the dragon-slayer, of the hidden but rightful king to be revealed in due time. From these aspects of the literature, Vico calls this phase “noble” or "heroic".

The human phase
The modern worldview begins with the premise that common sense is to be valued. We may not appreciate today what a paradigm shift that once was. But for those in ancient and medieval civilizations “common” not only meant “not rare”; it also meant “not noble”. And what was not noble was of no interest to those who were. If anything, it was to be despised, not valued. So making the common a focus of literary attention signals a real change of direction. This is the same sort of shift that moved the political order from the divine right of kings to democracy.

In this worldview, empirical description becomes the mode of discourse. To describe the physical properties of a tree is to provide complete information about the tree. No notice is taken of its spiritual aspect, as in the first or metaphorical view. No inquiry is made into its metaphysical essence as in the second or metonymical view. The tree is a physical entity and to know its physical properties is all that is necessary.

But this discourse of empirical description ought not to be confused with the naïve realism that accepts phenomena without question. Following the lead of Francis Bacon, the third phase empiricist understands that nature holds secrets we are unaware of at first glance. We need to investigate nature to discover the true description of reality. So modernism is inevitably wedded to science and scientific method.

But what is most notable about this third phase is the absence of any sense of metaphysical or spiritual reality. The world of phenomena, which was a metaphor in early civilization, and a guide to what lay beyond it in second phase thought, now takes the forefront and nothing is presumed to lie behind it. Or if something does, it is assumed to be inaccessible and therefore of no interest to the empirical investigator. So this phase is rightly labeled “human”.

A fourth phase?
Is post-modernism taking us into a fourth phase? If so, we can only begin to discern its characteristics.

The Bible
The Bible itself is primarily literature of the first or metaphoric phase. The chief theme of Old Testament literature is the mighty works of Yahweh. Although we have great human characters in the Bible, such as Abraham, Moses, David and Elijah, the principal actor throughout is Yahweh himself. Hebrew literature, especially the psalms, is filled with ritual recounting of the mighty acts of Yahweh both in creation and on behalf of Israel. The ritual worship of Israel and Judah, notably the great feasts of Passover, Sukkoth and Pentecost, as well as the later additions of Purim and Hanukah, recall and re-enact those works.

Apocalyptic literature such as that found in Ezekiel, Daniel and Revelation is built around the metaphorical concept of “As above, so below” and serves to strengthen the persecuted with a vision of what is happening in heaven and therefore is, or soon will be, happening on earth. Dreams and visions, such as those of Joseph, Elijah and Daniel serve the same purpose.

In many ways, Yahweh resembles the gods of polytheism more than the monotheistic abstraction of the philosophers. He has, for example, a name. He visits earth frequently, sometimes in human guise, as he does with Abraham. Yahweh is active, dynamic, passionate, and displays “human” emotions such as jealousy, sorrow and regret. Yahweh is depicted as Israel’s husband, wedded to the people and the land, just as the gods of the nations were seen as wedded to their land and people.

But while the Bible is unquestionably written from within the mythological/metaphorical world view, it also subverts that worldview. Yahweh, as Israel’s only God, is not, like pagan gods, a metaphor of anything in creation. He transcends his creation. Nor does Israel or Judah ever develop a cult of the god-king. The king is chosen, anointed and commissioned by Yahweh, but is not metaphorically Yahweh himself.

The New Testament is a bit of a hybrid, continuing much of the tradition of the Old Testament, but also showing elements of the second phase literature. Explicit allegory, practically non-existent in the Old Testament, appears in the parables and also in New Testament interpretations of the Old Testament e.g. Paul’s identification of Sarah and Hagar with Promise and Law. Paul’s epistles often contain logical argumentation using analogies and allegories. The whole of the letter to the Hebrews applies a second-phase interpretive model to the priest and sacrificial system of Israel as pointing to Christ and his perfect sacrifice.

Early and medieval Christian theology
What is meant by “second phase interpretive model”? While the bible itself, particularly the Old Testament, and to some extent the New, was written assuming the mythical/metaphorical or “divine” worldview, early Christian theology was developed in terms of the philosophies of the second phase. No one can doubt the impact of Platonism and later Aristotelianism on Christian theology. What becomes of the Bible and the God of the Bible in second phase thinking?

First, Yahweh is identified as the Absolute of the philosophers and given some of the attributes of the Absolute. This was no mean feat. The Greek philosophers seem to have quietly dropped belief in the Homeric gods. In the Church, Marcion advocated dropping Yahweh and the Old Testament in favour of the God of Jesus Christ, whom he could in no way identify with the God of Israel. The Church declared this unorthodox and decreed that Yahweh was indeed God.

Yet there are many contrasts between the Absolute and Yahweh. The Absolute is impersonal, Yahweh is personal. He has a name. The Absolute is passionless and always at rest; Yahweh is passionate—now loving, now angry, now sorrowful—and active. The Absolute is sought by all, but seeks out none. Yahweh seeks out his chosen, makes a covenant with them and acts on their behalf. Even when they break the covenant, he pursues them with both judgment and forgiving mercy.

The Church chose to retain elements of both God as Absolute and God as Yahweh as equally true of God, holding the contrasts in dynamic tension with each other. Similarly, it chose dynamic tension or paradox in describing the essence of God as a triune being, three in One, and the dual nature of Christ—rejecting that he was only human, only divine, now one, now the other, partly each, human in the flesh and divine in the spirit, or something in between, a demigod more than human but less than divine. Instead it affirmed his full humanity and his full divinity in one person.

Another outcome of second phase interpretation is the doctrine of original sin. In the metonymic worldview, the concrete material world is necessarily a fallen world, an imperfect representation of the ideal perfection of the heavenly world. It can be a signpost of that perfection, but always misses the mark and falls short of reaching it.

As for scripture, following the second phase thinking that truth lies in the essence to be deduced from the concrete particular, the texts become a treasure house of allegorical images, especially of Christ, the Church and the sacraments. This does not mean that early and medieval theologians denied the factuality of most of scripture, but that they did not see this as important to the significance of the text. To get to the root of revelation, one had to come to grips with what an object or event meant allegorically, as an image of salvation. It was trivially factual that the Israelites crossed the Red Sea. But what gave that event meaning was that it represented baptism. In short, just as in second phase thinking, the concrete world was held to stand for and symbolize a metaphysical world which transcends it, the scriptures were held to stand for and symbolize something beyond the text. To know only the literal meaning was not to know the scriptures.


...to be continued
 

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The third phase: modernism
With the advent of modernism, however, we get new complications in scriptural interpretation. The focus of the third phase or modern worldview is not on the metaphysical essence, with sensory reality seen as an analogy of the real thing, but on the empirical world of sensation itself. The conviction grows that there is no point in seeking what lies behind the curtain of physical phenomena. The task of the intellect is to understand the phenomena as given and to simply describe their operations without symbolic embellishment or moral instruction. Not naively, however. Understanding phenomena does not mean just accepting that what appears to be (e.g. spontaneous generation) is factual. The quest is to explore phenomena for clues to the causative principles that explain their operation. This is the worldview that gave us the scientific method and its (apparently?) objective descriptions of empirical experience. The successes of the scientific method led to a wide-spread conviction that reality is equivalent to what can be described scientifically i.e. reality is empirical.

Applied to scripture, this implies that scripture is to be interpreted as an objective description of empirical events such as would have been made by a third phase observer and reporter. Allowances can be made for naïve realism e.g. the sun is described as rising because that is what it appears to do. Allowances can also be made for poetic use of figurative language, and for parables and analogies when so stated. But where such factors are not evident, the text is to be understood as empirical description.

Such an empirical approach to the interpretation of scripture might have worked if not for the problem that the empirical investigation of the physical and social worlds led to discoveries that contradicted the scriptural text when interpreted empirically. The same applied to Christian doctrine. Three examples provide some insight into the problems.
1. The Copernican thesis of heliocentricity overturned the Ptolemaic and allied interpretations of the cosmos and contradicted empirically interpreted passages of scripture on the immobility of the earth. To its credit, after some sharp controversy, the church did find its way clear to incorporate the new empirical vision of the cosmos into its empirical interpretation of scripture. So much so that modern Christians routinely read concepts such as “outer space” and “solar system” into scripture where such concepts were never originally intended.
2. How do we understand the snake in the Garden of Eden? The original story comes from the first or metaphorical worldview in which the snake is a dual being, both earthly and heavenly, both an animal and a spirit. That it could speak is something one would take for granted, even if the actual occasions of such communication were rare. No implication of any other spirit than that of the snake itself is called for. In second phase worldview, the snake cannot be just a snake. Its meaning must derive from the essence it stands for. So, it becomes a symbol of Satan. In the empirical worldview, it cannot be a symbol of Satan, it must empirically be either what it is reported to be (a talking snake) or it must empirically be Satan.
3. How do we understand the sacramental elements, especially the bread of communion? When Jesus says “This [bread] is my body”, the implications are different in metaphorical, metonymical and empirical worldviews. Metaphorically, the statement identifies two distinct realities as one. “A” is “not-A”. For a second phase view, this is a logical absurdity. “A” cannot be “not-A”. It can be an analogy of “not A”. It can symbolize or represent “not-A” but it cannot be “not-A”. The sacramental concept of effective symbol, a sign which effects which it signifies, was at first a sufficient compromise. But that, too, falls apart when we get to an empirical approach. Empirically, there is no indication the bread is anything but bread or that it can have anything other than the effect of bread. Two distinct avenues of interpretation came out of this. On one hand it was affirmed that the bread is symbol and only symbol without effect in itself. This is the non-sacramental view proposed by the radical Reformation and accepted in many Protestant churches today. The other was the Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation which affirms that, contrary to appearance, the consecrated bread is really and substantially, the body of Christ. It retains only the accidents of bread, but is not bread. So the original metaphor “This [bread] is my body” is rejected in favour of a non-metaphorical statement “This [bread] becomes my body.” Contrary to the words of Jesus, it cannot be both bread and body, only one or the other. The vigour with which both Catholics and Protestants reject the possibility of metaphorical identity as anything other than a figure of speech indicates how far we have moved from the world experienced as metaphor.

Limitations of third phase interpretive models
The basic problem with empirical interpretation falls into three categories. First, what do we do with miracles? There seems to be no allowance in an empirical view for the supernatural. The empirical world is not a world in which God visits Abraham or commands the plagues on Egypt (which has led to interesting speculation on natural causes for the plagues.) Second, even apart from miracles, scripture does not give us an empirical description of the natural world or human history that accords with empirical understandings of nature and history based on extra-biblical sources. Finally, most importantly, the empirical worldview sees empirical description as a truly objective, impartial and accurate description of reality. Hence, an empirical interpretation of scripture does not see itself as interpretation, but as an objective and accurate transmission of the meaning of the inspired text.

So the dissonance between two ostensibly empirical descriptions of reality engenders intense mental and emotional conflict that cries out for resolution. This is the conundrum both liberalism and literalism try to address.

More on liberalism later. For the moment, let us note that the literalism which arises out of an empirical worldview is not the naïve literalism of former times. Naïve literalism may take the text as recounting an actual event, such as the great flood, but it does so in a context where this is not challenged by either empirical evidence or an empirical worldview. Modern literalism is an explicit confrontation with empirical evidence and fully accepts the validity of the empirical worldview.

The initial reaction of 19th century literalists aimed to show that the biblical text was consistent with the scientifically deduced empirical view. That is why it tended to old-earth creationism explained by either day-age or gap theologies. It ranges from a simple assertion that the biblical text allows for the scientific time-frame to elaborate attempts to identify Genesis days with specific geological ages. At first, evolution did not appear to be overly problematical. Concepts of non-Adamic humans were already current for other reasons, and fossil hominids could be similarly explained.

The 20th century turn to young-earth creationism reverses this agenda. No longer does the creationist try to show that scripture concords with science, but that science concords with scripture as literal descriptive text, including the young age of the earth and the solar(-like) days of creation week. To someone uncommitted to YEC, the various attempts to fit evidence of ice ages, plate tectonics, geological strata and an expanding universe into the text and the limited time frame seem grossly extravagant and futile. Why waste ones’ energy on such an endeavour? Why not simply cocoon oneself with one’s Bible and ignore the scientific community entirely?

This option does not satisfy, precisely because modern literalism is grounded in an empirical worldview. As much as any scientist, the literalist identifies empirical description as a truly objective, impartial and accurate description of reality. Anything which is true, must be empirically true, and so scripture empirically interpreted must be empirically true. Description is the only form of truth. Neither allegory nor metaphor qualify.

Finally, a brief comment on liberal strategies. These all assumed the correctness of the scientific paradigm and agreed that the biblical text and the emerging scientific framework could not be reconciled. The aim, therefore, was to find reasons to continue using scripture as a fundamental and authoritative spiritual resource, and to determine what the empirical reality behind the biblical text actually was. So we get such things as the quest for the historical Jesus, demythologization, appeals to the value of scripture on moral and sentimental grounds. In my opinion, these strategies, while they worked for a time and for a great many people, ultimately foundered because liberalism is also grounded in an empirical worldview and the inability to give scripture itself the same grounding empties it of power. If empirical description is the touchstone of truth about reality, stories falling outside the empirical experience tell us little of importance about reality. In this respect, I can sympathize with the oft-voiced criticism from conservatives that rejects the liberal strategies as leaving us with “just stories”.

Returning to the metaphor
In his analysis of the literature of the bible, Frye reminds us that in the biblical/metaphorical worldview, words have power. Words are not merely convenient labels. They do more than identify and describe. Words affect reality. They are shapers, controllers, creators of reality. To understand the bible rightly then, we must, at least temporarily, set aside our modern empirical views and re-enter the ancient experience of the world as metaphor. In this world no figure of speech is merely an ornament of literature. No story is just a story. The stories and the figures and images associated with them are words of power and living realities. Empirically, the story is “just a story”. Metaphorically, the story is alive and powerful because it is a story in which we are the participants, and it is happening to us. Empirical interpretation distances us from the story. It happened long ago and far away in another world to other people. Metaphorical interpretation puts us in the story as lived experience today.

We lose the power of the biblical stories when we look down on the ancient worldview as simply superstitious. That is part of the failure of liberal theological strategies. We also lose the power of the biblical stories when we try to turn them into empirical descriptions of a scientific order. The point of the story gets lost in discussion of its empirical possibility or impossibility. That is the failure of the literalist strategy. But to immerse ourselves in the story as metaphor and experience it as metaphor is to recover the power of the story as it was intended to be experienced.

...to be continued
 
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From modernism to post-modernism
Given postmodern critiques of modernity, I think the metaphorical understanding of biblical literature holds up well. First and foremost, postmodernism takes us away from the pretense that empirical description is the be-all and end-all of truth about reality. So we can begin to understand empirical interpretations of scripture as interpretations, not as objective truth. Second, post-modernism requires us to be attentive to voices heretofore suppressed by modernity. This, of course, includes the voices of “bronze age tribes” and other originators of the bible. Most importantly, especially for sola scriptura types, post-modernism reminds us that the bible is text and that we have no way of penetrating the text to get at the “reality” behind it.

Consider, for example, the gospels of the New Testament. The late 19th to early 20th century examined these texts in detail in order to seek out the historical person of Jesus of Nazareth. These attempts usually ended up describing the seeker rather than Jesus. Finally, it became clear that the historical Jesus has passed irretrievably out of our reach. The gospels are decidedly not an empirical description of Jesus of Nazareth, but a proclamation of Jesus as Christ and cosmic Son of God. The Jesus of the gospels has been, in postmodernist lingo, socially constructed by the early church. And this social construct is the closest we can get to the actual person. As Derida says, Il n’y a pas de hors-texte. (There is no “outside-the-text”.)*

Does this turn Christianity into a tissue of fabrications? By no means. The social construct of the early Church is the meaning of Jesus in the early Church. And this meaning is what they called “good news”. Would it really profit us to know Jesus apart from the gospel? What can objective history give us about Jesus that is anywhere near as important to us as the kerygma of the apostolic church?

At the same time, even as we recognize that the Jesus of the New Testament has been socially constructed by the early church (and in more than one way), we can then recognize our own tendency in all ages to deconstruct the scriptural figure and reconstruct Jesus again in a new social construct for our time and place. And we can come to grips with how our own socially constructed Jesus has been used for ill as well as good. We can certainly recognize today how oppressive the classic blond, blue-eyed Aryan Jesus has been in our history. We can acknowledge the imperfections of our own social construct of Jesus and begin to see what Jesus looks like through the eyes of other peoples. And together we may be able to construct a Jesus worthy of the gospel.

From a post-modern view, the problem with modernism is that it is a meta-narrative and meta-narratives are by nature exclusive, oppressive and violent. In Truth is Stranger than it Used to be: Biblical Faith in a Postmodern Age, J. Richard Middleton and Brian J. Walsh offer this analysis:

Yes, the bible offers us a meta-narrative. Let us be up front and honest about that. And honest as well about the historical instances in which this meta-narrative—either that of the bible itself, or the bible as interpreted—has been totalizing, exclusive, oppressive and violent.

However, the bible subverts the totalizing impact of its own meta-narrative in two ways. First, the biblical meta-narrative is radically sensitive to suffering. It is the suffering of the oppressed Israelite slaves that draws Yahweh’s compassion and action. It is this act of compassion and power in liberating Israel that becomes the foundation of its law and ethics. The ten commandments begin with the declaration that “I am Yahweh, your God who led you out of Egypt” and include many injunctions of concern and compassion for the vulnerable, particularly the alien “because you were strangers in Egypt”. In its radical sensitivity to suffering, the biblical meta-narrative supports the post-modern concern to hear the voices normally excluded from worldview-shaping meta-narratives.

Second, the biblical meta-narrative witnesses to an overarching creational intent that leads to a “monotheizing insight” which fosters inclusion rather than exclusion. Yahweh, unlike the gods of the nations, is creator of all that is. Indeed, the gods of the nations are not even gods. But this also means that Israel’s election (and the church’s) is not for Israel’s sake but for the sake of all the world.

Both of these perspectives are embodied in the life, passion and atoning death of Jesus as Christ and Redeemer. As the authors conclude: “By the time we reach the New Testament it thus becomes crystal clear…that the story the Scriptures tell is fundamentally the story of all creation. It is thus our story, no matter who we are, capable of speaking to us even in the midst of a post-modern crisis.” (Emphasis in original.)
 
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Interesting.

Currently I am digesting one book and reading another, both to do with the Bible and how it is read.

The first one is The Revelation of God by Peter Jensen. Solidly conservative; interestingly, he takes the theologies of Warfield etc. as adequate conciliation between his position and scientific facts. He makes a powerful argument against the exaltation of the reader, linking it to human pride, and argues for an objective message of the gospel which is rightly called the word of God. I've finished it and I'm now thinking about a lot of the things he says, which are sound and biblical. I'll be assimilating them over the next few months.

The other one I'm reading is God's Last Words: Reading the Bible from the Reformation to Fundamentalism by David Katz. It's honestly quite a plodding read, the kind of book which reminds me why I never liked history in the first place :p but it makes some very interesting and powerful points about how we view Scripture. He notes how strongly Jewish kabbalah affected Scripture reading back then (including a variant of busterdog's argument that the Tetragrammaton is a stick figure - an invention of Christian kabbalists!). The part I've found most interesting is the discussion on the Hutchinsonians and Swedenborgians, and how we should dissect their attitude to Scripture.
 
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'To be published when?', he asks eagerly.

Not for several years. It hasn't been written yet. Don't know if it will be.

But I am getting all kinds of ideas. Read a little more of Frye's book today and was amused by how he lambasts both literalists and liberals alike. Here is a comment on James Frazer, an early investigator of mythology.

But Frazer was a Classical and Biblical scholar who thought he was a scientist because he had read so much anthropology and hence was subject to fits of rationalism which seem to have attacked him like a disease. ....

A century ago, many scholars, influenced partly by a naive identifying of evolution with progress, assumed that mythological thinking was an early form of conceptual thinking. This, of course, led immediately to the discovery that it was very bad conceptual thinking. Thus Frazer again, in another fit of rational tic douloureux: "By myths I understand mistaken explanations of phenomena, whether of human life or external nature." This was obviously part of an ideology designed to rationalize the European treatment of "natives" on darker continents, and the less attention it gets now, the better.​

It seems to me that much of creationism is both an attack on and an acceptance of this outdated and long-since discredited liberalism.

Frye is as strong a critic of Bultmann's demythologization as any creationist, though he comes to a diametrically opposite conclusion.

Myth is the linguistic vehicle of kerygma; to demythologize any part of the Bible would be the same thing as to obliterate it.​

Here is another sample.

Against literalists who insist the story of Jonah must be about the real sojourn of a real man in a real whale or "we are making God into a liar."

It might be said that a God who would deliberately fake so unlikely a series of events in order to vindicate the "literal truth" of his story would be a much more dangerous liar and such a God could never have become incarnate in Jesus, because he would be too stupid to understand what a parable was.​

Yet in the same paragraph, he turns around and critiques the arrogance of liberalism.

Many writers assume or assert that the miracles of healing in the Gospel stories are incredible and that the stories of casting out devils relate to very primitive notions of mental disease and must be rejected too, it being unreasonable to ask modern people, living in the century of Hitler and Idi Amin to believe in evil spirits.​

In the latter mode, he reminds me very much of busterdog.
 
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