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Is Distributing Bibles Illegal in Schools?

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By Michael F. Haverluck

CBNNews.com

December 5, 2007



CBNNews.com - In a nation that coined the phrase "In God We Trust," a declining number of the 50 million children attending public schools are allowed to receive free Bibles on campus.

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An aggressive attempt to eradicate God's Word from the schools was recently made by the American Civil Liberties Union.

The ACLU convinced authorities in a North Carolina school district to ban the distribution of Bibles by The Gideons International, an interdenominational association committed to spreading God's Word.

With threatened lawsuits, multicultural education and secular agendas sweeping through the school system, many wonder whether the Bible has any legal place in the schools. The ACLU would like us to believe it doesn't, but is this based on fact?

After receiving a complaint, the ACLU warned that it would take legal action against Harnett County School District for allowing the Gideons to hand out Bibles on elementary school campuses. For years, the Gideons have distributed Bibles to schools in this district.

Shortly after school officials acquiesced to the intimidation, the Alliance Defense Fund, a legal organization defending Christian rights, wrote a letter on Friday to the district offering free legal representation.

But are schools afraid to stand against the ACLU because they're unaware of their rights?

Many are led to believe that the U.S. Constitution and the separation of church and state prohibit the Bible from being distributed on public school campuses, but ADF maintains that this is simply not true.

"A religious organization, such as the Gideons, is not second class to other groups that are allowed to distribute literature for voluntary reading at public schools," said ADF Senior Legal Counsel David Cortman.

"The ACLU's claim that the district has somehow broken the law by honoring those equal access rights is not supported by current Supreme Court precedent."

No Isolated Incident

The ACLU was busy seeking to end Bible distribution in North Carolina schools last month as well.

According to ADF, the ACLU evidently persuaded the public schools in Fayetteville, N.C., to stop permitting the delivery of Bibles to its campuses, claiming such practices by the Gideons violate the U.S. Constitution.

Once ADF learned that Cumberland County Schools no longer allowed outside groups to leave Bibles at its elementary schools, it offered to represent the district against the ACLU free of charge.

"Bibles are not second class to other types of written materials left for students to read voluntarily, "said Cortman. "There's nothing unconstitutional about outside groups leaving Bibles at public schools so long as the schools do not prohibit other groups from leaving literature as well."

Cortman points to the First Amendment's Free Speech Clause as a legal precedent protecting such distribution, as well as the court case Good News Club v. Milford Central School, 533 U.S. 98, 110 (2001).

"So long as the district permits outside groups to distribute religious and nonreligious materials on a neutral basis, it does not violate the Establishment Clause to permit the distribution of Bibles as well," Cortman said.

ADF strongly encourages public schools to continue their long-standing tradition of allowing God's Word to be made readily available from outside sources.

"At no time did the school officials or the Gideons violate anyone's constitutional rights," Cortman concluded. "The ACLU's continued use of scare tactics to impose its agenda on public schools must be stopped."

Sources: Alliance Defense Fund, Gideons International, CBN News


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I've often seen Chuck Norris' ads campaigning to 'get the Bible into schools in the English literature cyllabus as it's perfectly legal'



See also


http://christianforums.com/t6529973-chuck-norris-is-a-powerful-man.html


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Ugh, why can't these people see the difference between allowing a third party special access to public schools so they can hand out religious materials and allowing school children to have their own religious materials.

Here's the difference: you don't get to push your religious agenda onto other people's kids in a government funded school.

And equal access rights is not what this is about, the gideons were coming into classes and handing out bibles during school time. What other group gets to do that? And if there are other groups that do that, they should be banned as well (because kids should be learning during class time, not trying to decide between competing agendas of different groups).

But seriously, leave other people's kids alone.
 
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If a group were wanting to hand out Satanic Bibles in schools would the christians be ok with that? What about the Koran? I think we know the answer as we've seen this one before and it ends up with no one getting to distribute anything or even drop off anything because it's not about fairness, it's all about stuffing christian bibles and nothing else in kids faces.
 
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If a group were wanting to hand out Satanic Bibles in schools would the christians be ok with that? What about the Koran? I think we know the answer as we've seen this one before and it ends up with no one getting to distribute anything or even drop off anything because it's not about fairness, it's all about stuffing christian bibles and nothing else in kids faces.

The report says that other groups are allowed to hand out their stuff & only Christians can't :idea:

Thinks: does that make your post spam, troll or just plain politically biased flaming? :doh:

Lies even??? :confused:

(Just asking - in the interests of www.HonestReporting.com) :p

Ian :wave:
 
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The report says that other groups are allowed to hand out their stuff & only Christians can't :idea:


Doesnt say that anywhere in the entire article. Only thing close is when they try to make som half-a'sed argument that since other groups(wich arent religios) gets to leave free pamplets at the schools its okay to go around and push Bibles on people.
 
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Doesnt say that anywhere in the entire article. Only thing close is when they try to make som half-a'sed argument that since other groups(wich arent religios) gets to leave free pamplets at the schools its okay to go around and push Bibles on people.


Agreed. Would I be allowed to hand out the Gitas or Vedas at a public school, and not have Christians get in an uproar about it? Probably not.
 
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The report says that other groups are allowed to hand out their stuff & only Christians can't :idea:

Thinks: does that make your post spam, troll or just plain politically biased flaming? :doh:

Lies even??? :confused:

(Just asking - in the interests of www.HonestReporting.com) :p

Ian :wave:

Doesnt say that anywhere in the entire article. Only thing close is when they try to make som half-a'sed argument that since other groups(wich arent religios) gets to leave free pamplets at the schools its okay to go around and push Bibles on people.

Oh, aren't you the silly goose now? Not quite on da ball, eh?

As Museveni noticed, there is a huge difference between 'distributing' (which is what the article states the Gideons were doing) and 'left for students to read voluntarily' which is the status of the other mentioned materials.

Perhaps you should go re-read your own OP a little closer before bearing false witness against others? I shall expect your apology for accusing me of lies forthwith.
 
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I see nothing wrong with them leaving Bibles for the students to pick up and read whenever they want to. However, I would personally prefer that they get the complete Bible.
 
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Why do these people feel the need to pass out bibles in an elementry school?

So they can easily influence the minds of the children which look up to them (adults) for knowledge.

Personally, I don't think any religion should be able to distribute their materials at school when children are learning. Kids should be able to bring their own material to read for personal use if they are not causing a disruption or reading during class time, but adults should not be able to shove religion (regardless of type) at the kids of others. Although I believe this is how things already are for the most part, lol. Religion has no place in public schools.
 
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I see nothing wrong with them leaving Bibles for the students to pick up and read whenever they want to. However, I would personally prefer that they get the complete Bible.

Which one would that be? I see you've changed your religion again........so it'd be the Catholic Bible which includes the book of Sirach amirite?
 
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Just another reason why I send my children to a private Christian school.
Although I think it sucks that I have to pay taxes to support a public school system that I do not agree with and pay tuition for my childrens private education. Give me vouchers NOW!
 
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Just another reason why I send my children to a private Christian school.
Although I think it sucks that I have to pay taxes to support a public school system that I do not agree with and pay tuition for my childrens private education. Give me vouchers NOW!
That's silly. You pay taxes for school regardless of whether you have children attending that school, or any school. Senior citizens don't get relief - why should you?
 
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If other religions are allowed to pass out matrial, then so should Christians. But this would mean that Satanists would be allowed.

I fully support free hand outs of religous material, including Satanist's. A well educated person will base their ideas in fact, not just in what they hear.

I got a copy of the quaran of the internet sight that mailed it to me.

Actually, I think you can say if any none school related material is allowed, then Church material must be allowed. A school can not restrict religion any more then non-religious groups, nor show favortism.
All or none.

Disclaimor: when refering to Satanism, I refer to socially acceptable Satanists, rather then the living sacrifice religion comonly shown in movies.
 
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Just another reason why I send my children to a private Christian school.
Although I think it sucks that I have to pay taxes to support a public school system that I do not agree with and pay tuition for my childrens private education. Give me vouchers NOW!
So the taxpayers can pay for your kids' religious instruction?

I don't understand why it's such a big deal to have secular public schools. Why should people not instruct their children in their religion the way they feel it should be done? Why are people so eager for the government to be doing that job?
 
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I have no problem with people distributing religious materials outside of public schools as long as all religions are able to do so. I don't think, however, that Christians fully understand what this means. It means the door is open for all kinds of kooky and dangerous cults to hand out literature to kids- Scientologists, Hare Krishnas, Heaven's Gate...

Personally I'm not too bothered. I don't have kids, and if I did I like to think they'd be smart enough to either refuse such material or to read it critically.
 
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Love of who? Certainly not these children. If they loved them than they would respect them enough not to push their religion on them.
For many Christians, love != respect. Rather, "love" means treating everyone around you as though they're helpless and unable to think for themselves, and as if you need to micromanage their lives for them, rather than simply let them be.
 
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Just another reason why I send my children to a private Christian school.
Although I think it sucks that I have to pay taxes to support a public school system that I do not agree with and pay tuition for my childrens private education. Give me vouchers NOW!

Lets take it a step further, no vouchers, no funding for public school. Make all schools private schools.
 
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