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No More Excuses - You're Single for a Reason

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"I DO NOT want just any guy as one poster said. I precisely want the OPPOSITE! I want a special guy who is right for me. And so I need to be as varied and diverse in my approach as possbile.. I will not settle! My question to the viewers was not "am I doing to much or am I desparate"? I by no means am desparate...i have turned down many a man because we were not compatible.. My question is DO YOU HAVE ANY FRESH IDEAS on how to meet other people/men as to increase my chances of meeting the right man for me. " - Kiddo, 37.


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Kiddo, you're not understanding what people are saying. If you're already out there and doing all these activities and you're not meeting anybody then the only common denominator is you. If you're reasonably attractive and friendly and positive and confident then you should be having a heck of a lot more luck than you are. I can tell by the way you talk that you have some kind of ideal guy in mind. Here's the reality. You're 37, NOT 27. :idea:

Dating is going to be more difficult and, by our age, we have to learn to make some concessions. I don't care how you look or how much you work out or how beautiful & charming you think you are. You're 37. Which means you need to open up the door to more possibilities. You're holding out for some kind of uber-boyfriend and they just don't exist - at any age.:doh:

When I hear a woman say she "won't settle" I can sum up in two words why she's single - inordinate expectations. No self-awareness.

I see and talk to so many women in this city in their late 30's and mid-40's who use that exact same excuse. They won't settle. And, while they are at home or at a party or at the gym "not settling," another woman is out charming the pants off every man she meets because she's not expecting or looking for perfection. Or she's done the work necessary to alleviate the anxiety and craziness that many of us experience after too many bad dates or too much rejection.

Women need to get rid of this idea that there is a man out there that meets all of their needs and every single characteristic they have on their little laminated list. Bottom line, in every case, the women who hold out for these ideal men don't bring nearly as much to the table as they think they do.
Here's an early Christmas gift for you ladies. From me to you:
  • Stop with the "I'm 40 but look 30" schtick. Nobody cares and at the end of the day you're still 40. The younger guys who are taking you out, for the most part, are "dating you" to nail you. Now, if you're okay with that then go on with your bad self. But if you're goal is to get married and have children stop wasting your time.
  • Stop reading every single self-help book about finding Mr. Right. It makes you over-analyze ond over think every guy you meet.
  • Come to grips with your past and deal with your bagagge. If you're in your late 30's or older and never been married or come close, there is a reason and it is NOT that you're just picky. Take a look at your life and the people in your social circle. We attract who we are. Do a cost/benefit analysis of your behavior and see if you come up with a profit or a loss. Then come up with a new plan.
  • Stop resenting men for being men. They want someone younger because they want to have kids. Yes, they are a bit ignorant in assuming that all women in their late 30's and 40's will have trouble can get pregnant. Big surprise. Men don't fully understand the female body. My Dad is 82 years old with 5 daughters and he still get's uncomfortable when I talk about having cramps.
  • Stop swimming against the tide. You want to keep bashing your head into a wall because you think a certain type of man should love you and will if he just got to know you? Have at it. If he wanted to get to know you, he would.
  • Learn from your mistakes and grow from them.
  • Let go of the Brass Ring idea.
  • Don't be so quick to judge....give a guy a chance! How often do we say that we wish people would do that for us? Well, be a trendsetter.
  • Reevaluate your priorities and ask yourself if what you seek is truly what you need.
  • Stop thinking you're just so special because you look a certain way at a certain age or because you work out or because you're cultured and educated. Nobody cares. Men want someone that makes them feel good about themself. That can come in the form of an out of work actress or a chubby science geek. Many men are inherently lazy and don't want to work too hard too early.
  • Stop using the "he should love me for me" excuse. If you're overweight and not having success with men, then make a change. Either go for different kinds of men or lose weight. And STOP with the curvy/voluptuous thing. Curvy is a way for a woman to describe her body because she doesn't want to say she's overweight. I know, because I did it. If you have to dance around how you're shaped or built, it's because you know that the guy will likely consider you chubby or overweight. And...
  • Stop hating on men because they prefer slimmer/slender women. It's biology. If it's so aggravating to you then lose the weight. Men don't have to date an overweight woman because they have more options than we do (and this statistic is the same in many other major metropolitan cities.)
  • If you live in NJ/LI, date in NJ/LI. (Meaning if you live outside the major metropolitan area of your state date closer to home.) Go to events in your area. I'd say 8 out of 10 people want someone who lives close to them. If it takes longer than 45 minute to get to you, then you will likely be disqualified. I listen to so many women from Jersey saying that they want the financially stable, cute, charming guy so they throw their nets into Manhattan. Reality - there are plenty of women who live here. Men don't have to travel and if given the choice they won't.
  • Stop making excuses.
*(From an agony aunt)
 

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This sounds like something from When Harry Meet Sally... coverged with He's Just Not That Into You....
Haha, well, some people need to hear this. I'm not sure if these forums is really the ideal target audience though... a lot of the women here are looking for a Godly man who also meets their specific criteria and well, that can be hard to find since the Christian part alone disqualifies a lot of people.
 
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Although this is directed at Women mostly, I have been thinking this as well. I'm single for a reason. If God really wants me to eventually move to South Korea to go to school (in another 3 years) and then most likely move to North Korea when and if it opens or a ministry opportunity opens, then I am probably going to have some difficulty finding someone with the same focus at this time. I need to accept that and enjoy my single time and time with God (as always). There is a reason. I just lose sight of it in the context of my life now.

-Ted.
 
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I've got a better idea... I'm single for a reason... and that reason is Jesus Christ. If it was His plan that I'm married by now, then I would be. He has a big plan for my life that I dont fully understand and never will cos I'm not God and at the moment that plan involves being single. And it doesnt matter if I'm 19, 39, 69!!! Instead of always being sure there's something wrong with you, wont dont you turn to God and seek Him for why. Perhaps the answer is far bigger than you ever expected... if more people stopped complaining that they're lonely and "why aren't I married yet" and started looking to the Father the world would be a better place. Face the facts. Your life does not take on greater meaning by simply being married. Marriage should never be your goal in life. God should be!!!
 
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:scratch: I will be really really really silent about this topic now..

Well maybe it is because it isn't His timing..

Let's take for example dluvs2trvl, she is 40 and single. Personally, I do not know why she is single nor am I gonna place judgement on her because I do not know her that well. She may have been focusing on God and waiting for him to provide her for a husband. Maybe she tried the dating scene and has gotten hurt I dunno, I can't tell.

I will say that she is a precious gem to be pick up by a strong Man of God (young nor old) one day soon. Come on guys and rescue the princess from her awaiting tower!!!

If I was in my mid-30's, she will be watching out for me because less she may know I will swept her off her feet in no time flat!!!

All that I am saying is to all the ladies young nor old, is don't give up on yourself. Find your foundation on the Lord and the next time you see a nice gentlemen, please please I say at least take him out to Starbucks. You never know when prince charming will appear, he may not be perfect to the other ladies, but he will have a special place in your heart!!!

Many :hug: to dluvs hopefully I didn't make you :blush: Your a caring woman for the Lord. Your time will come my dear ^_^

Regards,
Drew
 
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(as written in brackets at the end of it)...BUT I agree with a lot of what the woman wrote. And the woman, who is in her late 30's or early 40's (I can't remember) was writing in DIRECT REPLY to one 37 year old woman who was going on about how she just can't seem to find Mr Right because all the men she met so far where not up to her 'STANDARDS'.

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I've got a better idea... I'm single for a reason... and that reason is Jesus Christ. If it was His plan that I'm married by now, then I would be. He has a big plan for my life that I dont fully understand and never will cos I'm not God and at the moment that plan involves being single. And it doesnt matter if I'm 19, 39, 69!!! Instead of always being sure there's something wrong with you, wont dont you turn to God and seek Him for why. Perhaps the answer is far bigger than you ever expected... if more people stopped complaining that they're lonely and "why aren't I married yet" and started looking to the Father the world would be a better place. Face the facts. Your life does not take on greater meaning by simply being married. Marriage should never be your goal in life. God should be!!!
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G101, There is a diplomacy gene that some people have. I have it but I don't like to use it. . . somehow I just don't think you have it LOL. :D :D

I agree a lot on a lot of stuff though.

1. For some women (Not a huge number) I've seen a very very clear evidence that they have some sort of non-existant ideal man that they will just never meet. Having "expectations" or something that you expect your partner to be is one thing but when just one of your expectations requires a 1 in a million man and then you have 5 of those .. . plus he has to be single of course. You just arn't going to find him. I totally agree far far too many women expect their man to be perfect in every way. I blame romance movies and chick flicks.

Also you are right, some women just don't want to give a guy a chance. They look at him decide he's not their perfect guy and tell him no.

2. Some women although not that many belive they have the right to just not take care of themselves and expect a man to "love them for them" as you said.

Listen here is the thing with me girls. I am not at all bothered by a girl that is overweight.

BUT here is the exception. I am very very very VERY bothered by a lazy girl.

My mom didn't take care of herself, found every excuse she could not to excersize. And she nearly died because of it. Fortunuly her near death experience convinced her to stop making excuses and actually lose weight. And she actually appoligized to us for making all those excuses. I do not want to go through this again. I love my mother but I don't want to marry her.

The weight doesn't bother me but the lack of excersize does.
 
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And here are some responses to the agony aunt quoted in the OP:
(each new comment is separated by this icon :pink:)


this is right on. so often we try to delude ourselves, claiming to not be settling while we really are questing after something unattainable. i am all for setting the bar high, but if you aren't realistic about your sights then you are only kidding yourself.
thanks for a fantastic post, and as always the brutal honesty that we all need. it's so refreshing.

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How much longer can we go on holding onto perfect people who don't exist? By no means should you settle for people who hurt you, have no morals etc.. but turning down someone because of some random thing which we set in our heads.


I have a friend who doesn't want to date men in their 40's, well she's in her mid 30's now and her options are slim. She's been complaining about being single for a decade and whatever she's doing isn't working. Guess she'll have to stay single for the rest of her life then.

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I have a fresh idea on how to find yourself with the right man. And the answer is not to go to more or different events. It's to get real.
Re-examine your "musts" in a guy and put a lot of them in the "nice to have but not essential" category. You have probably looked over quite a few good guys because of your refusal to "settle" or thought you were not compatible.:o
I am your age and know how hard it is to meet someone who's right for you. I explored many ways to meet people before finding my boyfriend. It would have been next to impossible if I had too narrowly defined what it means to settle. Here are some examples. I am not saying you do some or any of this exactly, but if the pattern is familiar, I would suggest you do some soul searching:
#1
Demanding you feel an intense attraction from the moment you meet = too narrow
Trying to make yourself attracted to someone you don't find remotely hot = settling
Giving a nice guy you have some chemistry with a chance = healthy




#2
Demanding the guy is your age, wealthy, and has no kids = too narrow
Dating a guy who doesn't want kids = settling
Giving a guy a chance who's a few years older than you, wants kids, has a steady job, and similar interests as yours = healthy

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I want to say some of the points goes for guys too. I am a guy. There are a lot of guys searching for that perfect woman who does not existso they are single. Unfortunately, for guys who are in good financial health, have interests outside of work and want to get marry and have kids, the Goodies; approachable, non judgemental, open minded and positive attitude are impossible to find while the Kiddos are a dime a dozen. I am going on a blind date with someone who I think has a great personality. Wish me luck.

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I prefer women in their mid-30's. The younger set are too immature and the older ones always seem to be hardbitten and bitter about something.
I do find that NYers like to analyze things over and over again. Why don't they get tired of this idiocy?
Do women really want a man? I have no idea.
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A woman "of a certain age" doesn't have as many options as a man "of a certain age." We can all pretend that the ticking biological time clock is a myth, but it's not. I'm sorry. Take a woman of 38 and a man of 38. Who has more options? Which is more likely to be chosen by someone their age or younger? That's right. The man. Why? Because they're less of a chance that they will not or can not have children. There was a great post on Craigslist recently that got some publicity. A woman of 30ish wrote a post saying that she was hot, sexy, great in bed blah blah and wanted a rich, wealthy guy and how come men only wanted women in their 20's? A guy (some sort of financial manager or i-banker) bluntly told her that, as a woman ages, she depreciates (his words, not mine) and that making an investment in a woman in her 30's, in business terms, would be a poor investment. Because, as he explained it, his (financial) worth will only increase as he gets older while her "worth" will decrease.



As harsh as that was, there was some truth to it in that that's how many, many men think. So women can try to change men OR they can change themselves. They can re-prioritize. The can re-evaluate. They can get an upgrade. Whatever it is...the only person a woman can change is herself. Not a man. To expect men to change and "get it" is a waste of time and energy.

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First. Looks DO matter to guys. Period. It is a large part of our sexual attraction machinery (but not all of it obviously). Dating someone a lot younger than you is dangerous for women (and to a lesser degree for men as well) because over time mother nature is going to make you look less attractive to him versus his alternatives.


And if you look younger than your age at 40: great. But you are still 40 and 10 years from now you will be 50 and perhaps you might look 50 by then. People show characteristics of age at different rates: it is not a linear scale that if you look young at 40 you WILL necessarily look young at 50 etc.



You are trying to find a mate for life, not a hookup for tonight (I assume that is the subject of this article) And yes, men usually want younger women if they have ANY interest in having kids. Mutations for children go up exponentially after the age of 35 for women. Sorry, but that is the truth to the science. By 45, regardless of whether you can get pregnant, your chance of a mutated child is very significant. We were meant to have kids at age 14 in the wild (when the chance for mutation is almost literally zero)

I realize this is a depressing post for some 40 something women out there but please don't shoot the messenger (me).

Posted by: Bill

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I'm 40 and I date women between the ages of 25 and 35. I date younger women because it's my preference, because I can, and because I want children but don't want to be pressured. I'm not a sperm bank. The relationship must come first.

For the record, I want to meet the right woman within the next year and settle down. I'm on several dating sites and have read hundreds if not thousands of profiles, and now if I sense a woman is too demanding I will cross her off my potential mate list. The most important ingredient in a long-lasting relationship is that both people make each other feel good about themselves. Put yourself in the guy's shoes and ask if you would like to be treated that way. We're a lot more alike than you might think. We all breathe oxygen and bleed and have emotions.

I don't want to be with some spoiled brat that thinks she's God's gift to the world. Someone who's sensitive and reasonable is a heck of a lot more attractive. Reciprocal attentiveness and love is what I imagine everyone ultimately wants, but you have to get past the rubbish to find it. Get to know the person before writing them off because they don't fit all your requisites. Be flexible (preferably in more ways than one ;-p).

PS: I would like to clarify that I'm dating younger women with the intent of finding a wife with whom I can have children. BTW, I'm as flexible as I want to be. I don't want to date older women because it wouldn't be fair to either of us and I wouldn't want to waste their time or mine when I know what I want. If the circumstances were reversed I would have wanted to marry earlier in life.


PPS: When it comes to a whether or not a man will marry a woman, all other things being equal, a woman's age is more important than how good she looks. In other words, a younger, less attractive woman has a better chance than an older, more attractive woman. That's the bottom line. The older, more attractive woman shouldn't be bitter about this. She had more advantages when she was younger.

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The older man younger woman always comes into play and no woman seems to have the ability to recognize a very simple equation:

Younger women have more dating options because they tend to date men their own age and older. It is statistically rare a woman will SERIOUSLY date any man 4 years younger than themselves. Young women have a great deal of options because of this.
As women age their dating pool slowly contracts because they STILL do not date men who are significantly younger then themselves and many of their age group have already paired off.
Young men have fewer dating option because they tend to have to date their own age and younger. (Young professional men still date college girls, 30 year old men date 24 year old women but the reverse rarely happens) Young men have more limited options than young women.:o:scratch::confused:
As men age their options slowly increase because of increased status and the age pool beneath us grows larger.
The reality is that if you compare the average dating options of a 23 year old woman and 23 year old man, the options will be greatly skewed in the woman's favor. If you compare the dating options of 35 year old man and 35 year old woman, the options will be greatly skewed in the man's favor.:thumbsup:
THIS IS REALITY. DEAL WITH IT.
If you're on the lesser end of one of the equations (an older woman, a young man), you're going to have to be better than average. You'll probably have to work harder (be MORE charming, flirtatious, fun and generally wonderful). But don't just complain about how its unfair. That's just wasted time and mental energy.



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Reading this entry pretty much confirms why I hate the "dating scene". The subject was "you're single for a reason", yet once again it all boils down to how older women should just give up because, hey they aren't 25 any more.
I'm going to be 35 next month and by the looks of things I may as well get used to being an old spinster! Knowing that a man only wants to marry for the purpose of procreation gives me closure on the topic of "why am I this age and not married yet?" I never wanted kids, therefore, why would anyone have married me? Now it all makes sense. Thank you! Oh well, I guess I just wasn't made for this world and its biological "realities".


It's funny how the men on this site can conveniently back up their argument that they are only turned on by attractive women and they prefer the younger ones because that's the way they are wired "biologically". The women on this site who bemoan their single status and the lack of good men are berated for being too "picky". We aren't any higher up on a high horse for feeling that way than the men, yet the double standard exists.



I don't buy into the romance section at the book store, but I think this lapse between the sexes is the reason for its existence. We have to have our needs met some place - even if it's just a fantasy.
BTW - If I am of no more use to a man than to incubate and rear his young, then I'm better off single.


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Question: I hate to date.I would love to find the man of my dreams and get married someday, but I have a few problems.The first problem is: 99% of the (available) men I come across in my daily life are not the least bit attractive or interesting to me. I am very hung up on looks and style, and frankly there isn't a lot of style to be had by the hetero male population here in the USA. And to make matters worse, now that I'm in my mid-thirties, the men in my dating pool are also starting to look old and it creeps me out. The second problem is: I am very self-conscious and when I do see that odd fellow who fits the look I like I shy away and I don't know what to do. Everyone I know tells me I'm very pretty and look young for my age, but since men never approach me I can't help but think there's something "wrong" with me. I also attribute my apparent unpopularity with the male sex to the fact that I live in Los Angeles and being "pretty" alone just doesn't cut it here - you also have to be very, very thin to be considered desirable. I'm not exactly fat, but there's a big difference between a "10" and a size 10 in this town. Am I a hypocrite for being so picky about a guy's looks when I myself am no supermodel? Or should I just move?

PS: The sad truth is that although I am 34, I have less of a clue about dating than a sixteen year old. When I was young (and apparently at my optimum 'hotness') I was clueless, self-conscious and rarely got any interest from the opposite sex, or so I thought. I came to your site hoping that there was some source of knowledge regarding dating, since it is a complete mystery to me. That I get chastised is only illustrative of my naivete in social situations.
Age:34

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Now, I don't know about you (quoted above) but when someone says that 99% of the men they meet do not interest them or are not by their definition attractive, then I consider that being too picky. What's funny, though, is that you freely admit that you are operating under a double standard.

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All Kiddo did was ask if anyone has fresh ideas on where to meet guys. Obviously not on here. Unless you are looking to meet a guy like Ed who gloats about how he can meet younger women (big deal) and bash the older ones like he is car shopping...like they aren't people with feelings and a right to hope for good things in life (and by the way....most women don't want an old, flabby, bitter MAN either Mr. "I am 40 and I date 25 year-olds because then they find out how old and mean I am thus why I am still single at 40"!) Newsflash....you are single at 40 for a reason...The 34-40+ ones wouldn't want a hater like you either dude! You don't have to date older women but why be so nasty about it?)

I think [agony aunt] is right about examining your motives and being less rigid in who you will even consider dating. But crikey lady....you are single too right? You certainly do sound angry at being close to 40. And instead of letting other women in the same boat empathize with you and encourage you....you contribute to the perpetrated shame by getting mad at women (yourself?) for trying to make a healthy choice in finding a partner. Just chill! You will find a boyfriend. You will get married. You will have children. And then probably get divorced, lol. Or just pull an Angelina and adopt overseas. :D

But stop encouraging women to feel ashamed of themselves. So men generally prefer younger women. So what? Date a few years older and you ARE younger no matter what your age. If you are secure, satisfied with your age (yes, even if its 40+) then you will draw in an equally compatible man. If all of this shame and doubt is in your mind taking up beach front property, there is no room for the hope of the right guy (yeah I said the right guy, sue me) to move in. Evict all this negativity. Guys want a woman who is positive and fun and friendly and HAPPY (no one on here sounds very happy, btw) with herself no matter what her weight, age or bra size is. It just works that way. The end.
Posted by: t-doc

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The reasons why man is keyed to look for a younger female equals to a healthier mate, even without the offspring issue can be observed in nature.
Put any male animal and confine him with a single any aged female; he will have sex with any age regardless.
But put him in with a younger, fertile prime female and an older less fertile female and he will do the young one first and then the older one next for his seed to take hold.
Then put a male in with a crowd of females, 50 young primes and 50 old "all horny", and he can do only 50 before he expired from the whole ordeal; guess what is your ratio of the young female vs the older female?
Then again it is natural that the older female also pine and want for the attention of that prime male (strong genes, good provider) just like the younger female in her prime. A want is not what everyone can get especially when going up against the natural order of things.


The fact is the older less to non-fertile females usually will get little to no interest from these prime males, especially the dominant male who wants the very best chance of survival for their offspring from what the best nature can offer (youth, health, physical attractiveness "prime"). Behind any mating dance is the main reason for procreation hence even when a woman uses the excuse of no offspring wanted still does not warrant an excuse that it is natural for woman to date a much younger male hoping he would stay as a family to her besides just a sexual fling.

It is unnatural and unfair for a female to expect interest from a younger male in his prime demanding his life to be dedicated to her when that female may not be able to carry his genes perfectly. For a woman, after a certain age there is a higher chance of reproductive problems plus that reproduction process will be more detrimental to their health. Man may have a problem of getting it up after a certain age, but again men are not the brewing vessels for those genes once the sperm takes hold.
It is how the best genes get passed down to the next generation when no material goods involved, genes is a man's next best investment.



Backed by nature and age old cultures. Just add all the old world culture and our modern world culture then do the math. What is that international score?
For the females it is unfair, but take it up to mother nature and not the men.















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G101, There is a diplomacy gene that some people have. I have it but I don't like to use it. . . somehow I just don't think you have it

Don't be silly. The OP was not written by me. And the next time you write such clap trap about me, I am going to give you a good character analysis and see how you like it.



I agree a lot on a lot of stuff though.

1. For some women (Not a huge number) I've seen a very very clear evidence that they have some sort of non-existant ideal man that they will just never meet. Having "expectations" or something that you expect your partner to be is one thing but when just one of your expectations requires a 1 in a million man and then you have 5 of those .. . plus he has to be single of course. You just arn't going to find him. I totally agree far far too many women expect their man to be perfect in every way. I blame romance movies and chick flicks.

Also you are right, some women just don't want to give a guy a chance. They look at him decide he's not their perfect guy and tell him no.

2. Some women although not that many belive they have the right to just not take care of themselves and expect a man to "love them for them" as you said.

Listen here is the thing with me girls. I am not at all bothered by a girl that is overweight.

BUT here is the exception. I am very very very VERY bothered by a lazy girl.

My mom didn't take care of herself, found every excuse she could not to excersize. And she nearly died because of it. Fortunuly her near death experience convinced her to stop making excuses and actually lose weight. And she actually appoligized to us for making all those excuses. I do not want to go through this again. I love my mother but I don't want to marry her.

The weight doesn't bother me but the lack of excersize does.
 
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