Yikes DNA proves what??

[FishFace]

Why should you not accept the Bible as fact??

Same reason you don't accept the Qu'ran as fact.

Why should you accept dark matter as fact??

Evidence.

They can neither be proven absolutely right??

Not necessary - all that we want is evidence.

 

[Carey]

Same reason you don't accept the Qu'ran as fact.



Evidence.



Not necessary - all that we want is evidence.

The biggest in your face evidence is the State of Israel.

Even thoughthey are tiny and have many enemies surrounding them who would ike them to not exist yet they do.

Even though they have no oil they are wealthy.

Even thought the Israelites ( jews) have been a race many have tried to irradicate since recorded history not one empire has been able to do it.

Isaiah 60 : 4 "Lift up your eyes and look about you:
All assemble and come to you;
your sons come from afar,
and your daughters are carried on the arm.

(This started when Israel was fromed in 1948)

5 Then you will look and be radiant,
your heart will throb and swell with joy;
the wealth on the seas will be brought to you,
to you the riches of the nations will come.

( look at Israel prior to 1948 look at it today. )

8 "Who are these that fly along like clouds,
like doves to their nests? ( The IAF )

9 Surely the islands look to me;
in the lead are the ships of Tarshish, [a]
bringing your sons from afar,
with their silver and gold,
to the honor of the LORD your God,
the Holy One of Israel,
for he has endowed you with splendor.

(many have returned home bringing wealth since 1948 )

10 "Foreigners will rebuild your walls,
and their kings will serve you.
Though in anger I struck you,
in favor I will show you compassion

( the USA has helped them rebuild and does serve them)

12 For the nation or kingdom that will not serve you will perish;
it will be utterly ruined.
13 "The glory of Lebanon will come to you,
the pine, the fir and the cypress together,
to adorn the place of my sanctuary;
and I will glorify the place of my feet.

Palestine and Saddams regime ruined for starters, Iran ,lebanon and Syria soon )


14 The sons of your oppressors will come bowing before you;
all who despise you will bow down at your feet
and will call you the City of the LORD,
Zion of the Holy One of Israel

( Palestinians are the sons or descendents of the Israelites oppressers and there will be more bowing at Israels feet soon.)

Now the rest is yet to be fulfilled but this part has been fulfilled in recent years .

Now if that is not evidence enough for you . You are truly blind.

 

[MrGoodBytes]

A self fulfilling prophecy, great.

 

[AV1611VET]

The biggest in your face evidence is the State of Israel.

Reps to Carey ---

This country is so blessed because the Abrahamic Covenant is still in effect.

JERUSALEM !

 

[MrGoodBytes]

Reps to Carey ---

This country is so blessed because the Abrahamic Covenant is still in effect.

JERUSALEM !

This post of mine in an otherwise unrelated thread might be of interest to you.

 

[Carey]

A self fulfilling prophecy, great.

hahahahaha

I am starting to question your intelligence here

If prophecies could be self fulfilled the Muslims would have succeeded already.LOL

They out number and out gun Israel by rediculous numbers. And they all did not and still do not want little bity Israel to exist yet Israel still does.

G E O G R A P H Y
MAPS DON'T LIE
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Israel: The Most Disputed strip of Real Estate on Planet Earth!
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In a Nutshell... Animation Showing Israel in Relation to the Arab/Muslim Countries.

​

Unlike Islam's Koran, which commands Muslims to force the entire planet to submit to literal control by Islam, the Jewish Torah promises the children of Israel a modest and reasonable allotment of land. Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California, surrounded by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 times her size, 60 times her population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone believe them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of 22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world (almost 5 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion Muslims worldwide?

Israel is one of the tiniest nations on the face of the earth... only about 8,000 sq. miles, 2½ times the size of Rhode Island and only slightly larger than the Canary Islands!. It is only 260 miles at its longest, has a 112-mile coastline, 60 miles at its widest, and between 3 and 9 miles at its narrowest! A very high-powered rifle could launch a projectile right across the country! This is particularly frightening when one considers that 65% of Israel's population is within this 9-mile wide section (Tel Aviv area). Yet Arab propagandists call Israel "expansionist" and the "aggressor" against all Arab peoples. For those unfamiliar with the Arab interpretation of "aggressor," it means one who dares fight back against Arab aggression!! So even though Israel may have fought only defensive wars, the mere fact that she resisted total destruction is viewed as an "act of aggression." That's a case of wacky logic but, unfortunately, Israel doesn't have the luxury of picking her enemies
​

 

[AV1611VET]

This post of mine in an otherwise unrelated thread might be of interest to you.

William P. Brady, in his book How Satan Turned America Against God, points out that when the time came to fulfill that prophecy, God ingrained in each Jewish individual a sudden strong desire to "return home."

Even affluent Jews who were born and raised here in America suddenly wanted to "return home."

This "phenomenon" was reported by Jews all over the world.

 

[Carey]

Remember big ole powerful Israel self fulfilled the prophecy of their existence...

tiny tiny tiny tiny

Israel would fit INSIDE nearly every U.S. state! In fact, tiny Israel would fit into the United States (Alaska & Hawaii included) 768 times! Israel could fit into Florida SEVEN times! The United States is a country surrounded by two vast oceans and two friendly countries, Canada and Mexico. Israel is not so lucky. she is surrounded by 22 Arab countries and some very nasty Arab Islamic terrorist organizations.​

 

[Carey]

Reps to Carey ---

This country is so blessed because the Abrahamic Covenant is still in effect.

JERUSALEM !

Thanks but I want to keep the thread focused on the evidence of the Bible.

It would be absolutely retarded to not see that man could not have created Israel much less kept it in place since 1948 after looking at the maps.

Everyone knows who Israels enemies are. The maps are only refurtable by someone without common sense and I will not respond to stupidity.

I will simply love and pray for anyone who would try to refute something so obvious.

They asked for evidence...well Israel is massively stronger evidence of the Bible infaliblity than any scientific evidence opposing it.

 

[MrGoodBytes]

hahahahaha

I am starting to question your intelligence here

If prophecies could be self fulfilled the Muslims would have succeeded already.LOL

They out number and out gun Israel by rediculous numbers. And they all did not and still do not want little bity Israel to exist yet Israel still does.

With that amount of US money and technology, you could make Burkina Faso a minor superpower within a decade. Hardly a miracle.

 

[Carey]

With that amount of US money and technology, you could make Burkina Faso a minor superpower within a decade. Hardly a miracle.

In 1948 the USA was not a superpower nor nearly as wealthy either.

God blesses nation that bless Israel the USA strength and wealth today is just more evidence of scriptures validity.

 

[gamespotter10]

In 1948 the USA was not a superpower nor nearly as wealthy either.

God blesses nation that bless Israel the USA strength and wealth today is just more evidence of scriptures validity.

actually, in 1948, the USA was MOST DEFINITELY a superpower. after the defeat of the nazis in world war 2, the USA and the USSR were left as the worlds only 2 superpowers

 

[MrGoodBytes]

In 1948 the USA was not a superpower nor nearly as wealthy either.

Which planet's history are we talking about?

In 1948, there were exactly two superpowers - the USA and the SSSR.

God blesses nation that bless Israel the USA strength and wealth today is just more evidence of scriptures validity.

Yes, that's why Iraq and Afghanistan are the glorious beacons of US dominance we see today.

 

[FishFace]

The biggest in your face evidence is the State of Israel.

Even thoughthey are tiny and have many enemies surrounding them who would ike them to not exist yet they do.

Even though they have no oil they are wealthy.

Even thought the Israelites ( jews) have been a race many have tried to irradicate since recorded history not one empire has been able to do it.

Nor has anyone eradicated other major religions - so? Israel as a state didn't exist until the 1940s, so I'm not sure where you're going with this.

Isaiah 60 : 4 "Lift up your eyes and look about you:
All assemble and come to you;
your sons come from afar,
and your daughters are carried on the arm.

(This started when Israel was fromed in 1948)

5 Then you will look and be radiant,
your heart will throb and swell with joy;
the wealth on the seas will be brought to you,
to you the riches of the nations will come.

( look at Israel prior to 1948 look at it today. )

8 "Who are these that fly along like clouds,
like doves to their nests? ( The IAF )

9 Surely the islands look to me;
in the lead are the ships of Tarshish, [a]
bringing your sons from afar,
with their silver and gold,
to the honor of the LORD your God,
the Holy One of Israel,
for he has endowed you with splendor.

(many have returned home bringing wealth since 1948 )

10 "Foreigners will rebuild your walls,
and their kings will serve you.
Though in anger I struck you,
in favor I will show you compassion

( the USA has helped them rebuild and does serve them)

12 For the nation or kingdom that will not serve you will perish;
it will be utterly ruined.
13 "The glory of Lebanon will come to you,
the pine, the fir and the cypress together,
to adorn the place of my sanctuary;
and I will glorify the place of my feet.

Palestine and Saddams regime ruined for starters, Iran ,lebanon and Syria soon )


14 The sons of your oppressors will come bowing before you;
all who despise you will bow down at your feet
and will call you the City of the LORD,
Zion of the Holy One of Israel

( Palestinians are the sons or descendents of the Israelites oppressers and there will be more bowing at Israels feet soon.)[/quote]

I don't see many Nazis (or sons thereof) bowing at Israel's feet.

Now the rest is yet to be fulfilled but this part has been fulfilled in recent years .

Now if that is not evidence enough for you . You are truly blind.

No, it's not enough evidence. It's a case of you seeing what you want to see in a rather vague "prophecy" that may have been convincing if it had been fulfilled a long time ago but, even then, not very.
It only covers Judaism, not Christianity, and you've still got that old problem of prayer not making any noticeable difference.

 

[Carey]

Which planet's history are we talking about?

In 1948, there were exactly two superpowers - the USA and the SSSR.

Correct now there is one. I meant to say the US was the a sole superpower.


Yes, that's why Iraq and Afghanistan are the glorious beacons of US dominance we see today.

Correct they are proof we unilaterally can go in and do as we please if we have to.

 

[Carey]

Nor has anyone eradicated other major religions - so? Israel as a state didn't exist until the 1940s, so I'm not sure where you're going with this.

What was Palestine called just before Rome conquered and renamed it Palestine and who ruled it??

Isaiah 60 : 4 "Lift up your eyes and look about you:
All assemble and come to you;
your sons come from afar,
and your daughters are carried on the arm.

(This started when Israel was fromed in 1948)

5 Then you will look and be radiant,
your heart will throb and swell with joy;
the wealth on the seas will be brought to you,
to you the riches of the nations will come.

( look at Israel prior to 1948 look at it today. )

8 "Who are these that fly along like clouds,
like doves to their nests? ( The IAF )

9 Surely the islands look to me;
in the lead are the ships of Tarshish, [a]
bringing your sons from afar,
with their silver and gold,
to the honor of the LORD your God,
the Holy One of Israel,
for he has endowed you with splendor.

(many have returned home bringing wealth since 1948 )

10 "Foreigners will rebuild your walls,
and their kings will serve you.
Though in anger I struck you,
in favor I will show you compassion

( the USA has helped them rebuild and does serve them)

12 For the nation or kingdom that will not serve you will perish;
it will be utterly ruined.
13 "The glory of Lebanon will come to you,
the pine, the fir and the cypress together,
to adorn the place of my sanctuary;
and I will glorify the place of my feet.

Palestine and Saddams regime ruined for starters, Iran ,lebanon and Syria soon )


14 The sons of your oppressors will come bowing before you;
all who despise you will bow down at your feet
and will call you the City of the LORD,
Zion of the Holy One of Israel

( Palestinians are the sons or descendents of the Israelites oppressers and there will be more bowing at Israels feet soon.)

I don't see many Nazis (or sons thereof) bowing at Israel's feet.


Israel asks Germany to fund Holocaust survivors' stipends .....
Israel has asked the German government to fund an annual NIS 150 million in ... Merkel has decided to concede to the Israeli government on this matter ...
www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/904088.html - 111k


No, it's not enough evidence. It's a case of you seeing what you want to see in a rather vague "prophecy" that may have been convincing if it had been fulfilled a long time ago but, even then, not very.
It only covers Judaism, not Christianity, and you've still got that old problem of prayer not making any noticeable difference.[/quote]

It is only part of the Bible and prophecy it is way more evidence than anything I have seen to disprove the Bible.

 

[Carey]

Of course there are. There will always be scientists who disagree with the scientific consensus. This is a good thing.

However, you need to understand the facts. There are areas where light is bent without being absorbed. Only one thing can do this, gravity. However, there is not visible matter in these areas to account for the bending of light. Matter (through gravity) bends light and this matter does not absorb nor emit light. Therefore, it is dark matter.

PLease prove to me it is not God supernaturally bending the light and not feeling heas a reason to tell us instead of it being dark matter.

For that matter prove to me it is not some other source of gravity science does not have knowlege of yet thatis bending the light.

Or prove to me that beyond all reasonable dought gravity can actually bend light.

 

[FishFace]

Israel asks Germanyto fund Holocaust survivors' stipends .....
Israel has asked the German government to fund an annual NIS 150 million in ... Merkel has decided to concede to the Israeli government on this matter ...
www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/904088.html - 111k

Are you calling Merkel a Nazi?

It is only part of the Bible and prophecy it is way more evidence than anything I have seen to disprove the Bible.

Prayer doesn't work. There are written records that span a time in which there was a supposed global flood. The earth was not created in 6 days - there were millions of years between water appearing and there being life.

Need I continue?

 

[FishFace]

PLease prove to me it is not God supernaturally bending the light and not feeling heas a reason to tell us instead of it being dark matter.

Please prove that it is not invisible magic pixies?

Or prove to me that beyond all reasonable dought gravity can actually bend light.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_lensing

Gravitational lensing is a prediction of general relativity. If it didn't happen, general relativity must be wrong, but we know that it is almost certainly correct due to other evidence.

That article describes various bits of evidence.

 

[Chalnoth]

That article describes various bits of evidence.

The best evidence for gravitational lensing stems from within our own solar system. Basically, by observing the bending of light around the Sun or around other massive objects in the solar system like Jupiter, we can directly observe the deflection of light. It matches with GR.