Yikes DNA proves what??

[UncleHermit]

Agreed

in the June 1 is­sue of The As­t­ro­phys­i­cal Jour­nal. This time re­search­ers us­ing NASA’s Hub­ble Space Tel­e­scope said they found a huge, ghostly “ring” of dark mat­ter in a gal­axy clus­ter called Cl 0024+17, five bil­lion light-years from Earth, again thanks to a col­li­sion. NASA billed the find­ing as some of “the strongest ev­i­dence yet” for dark mat­ter.

Yet prob­lems keep crop­ping up, Mc­Gaugh wrote. A study in the May 10 is­sue of Sci­ence found that the bi­zarre gravita­t­ional ef­fects at­trib­ut­ed to dark mat­ter were show­ing up even where they weren’t ex­pected to un­der dark mat­ter the­o­ry it­self. Mod­i­fied gra­vity the­o­ry—ac­cord­ing to which gra­vity is stronger on in­ter­ga­lac­tic scales than the stand­ard laws of gra­vity sug­gest—ex­plained the puz­zle neat­ly, he wrote.


Science has it sooo together...LOL

Find and replace to the rescue...

in the June 1 issue of The Astrophysical Journal. This time researchers using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope said they found a huge, ghostly "ring" of dark matter in a galaxy cluster called Cl 0024+17, five billion light-years from Earth, again thanks to a collision. NASA billed the finding as some of "the strongest evidence yet" for dark matter.

Yet problems keep cropping up, McGaugh wrote. A study in the May 10 issue of Science found that the bizarre gravitational effects attributed to dark matter were showing up even where they weren’t expected to under dark matter theory itself. Modified gravity theory—according to which gravity is stronger on intergalactic scales than the standard laws of gravity suggest—explained the puzzle neatly, he wrote.

 

[Carey]

That was incoherent. Can you clean it up and provide the source?

I dont know what happened.

In a nut shell science is proving science wrong yet again.

Proving what we think we know is not always right even though it has been belived to be fact for many years.

It will always be that wwy when it appears to contradict the Bible.

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070802_darkmatter.htm

 

[Chalnoth]

I dont know what happened.

In a nut shell science is proving science wrong yet again.

Proving what we think we know is not always right even though it has been belived to be fact for many years.

It will always be that wwy when it appears to contradict the Bible.

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070802_darkmatter.htm

I don't think you realize that this is how science progresses. We debate. We gather evidence. We find which explanation fits best. And when there is still debate, we gather more evidence until there is only one reasonable explanation.

The MOND people, by the way, are pretty much spouting nonsense at this point. The evidence is in: it's dark matter. Even if gravity is modified, we cannot get around the fact that dark matter exists.

 

[Carey]

I don't think you realize that this is how science progresses. We debate. We gather evidence. We find which explanation fits best. And when there is still debate, we gather more evidence until there is only one reasonable explanation.

The MOND people, by the way, are pretty much spouting nonsense at this point. The evidence is in: it's dark matter. Even if gravity is modified, we cannot get around the fact that dark matter exists.

Well as I pointed out there are scientists who disagree

 

[Loudmouth]

Well as I pointed out there are scientists who disagree

Of course there are. There will always be scientists who disagree with the scientific consensus. This is a good thing.

However, you need to understand the facts. There are areas where light is bent without being absorbed. Only one thing can do this, gravity. However, there is not visible matter in these areas to account for the bending of light. Matter (through gravity) bends light and this matter does not absorb nor emit light. Therefore, it is dark matter.

 

[Vene]

Well as I pointed out there are scientists who disagree

This surprises you? That's how science works. You get different people to examine the evidence and test their hypothesis until one that works is found. If there is an error in it, other scientists (or even the original scientist) work out something that works better.

 

[Carey]

Of course there are. There will always be scientists who disagree with the scientific consensus. This is a good thing.

However, you need to understand the facts. There are areas where light is bent without being absorbed. Only one thing can do this, gravity. However, there is not visible matter in these areas to account for the bending of light. Matter (through gravity) bends light and this matter does not absorb nor emit light. Therefore, it is dark matter.

Hmmm maybe Yahweh is made of dark matter???

 

[Carey]

This surprises you? That's how science works. You get different people to examine the evidence and test their hypothesis until one that works is found. If there is an error in it, other scientists (or even the original scientist) work out something that works better.

Yep and what works best is knowing the Bible is infalible and do what it says.

 

[Vene]

Yep and what works best is knowing the Bible is infalible and do what it says.

How do we know this?

Oh and if Yahweh is made of dark matter, then why worship it? That's like worshiping the sun because the Earth orbits it.

 

[Chalnoth]

Hmmm maybe Yahweh is made of dark matter???

Er, nope. Dark matter is largely non-interacting. No complex structures can form from dark matter, and therefore no intelligence.

 

[Carey]

How do we know this?

Oh and if Yahweh is made of dark matter, then why worship it? That's like worshiping the sun because the Earth orbits it.

I was being facetious.

Dark matter does not have to exist to bend Light when God can do that.

How do you think he extended the hours in a day for Joshua for a great battle in history??

 

[Vene]

I was being facetious.

Dark matter does not have to exist to bend Light when God can do that.

How do you think he extended the hours in a day for Joshua for a great battle in history??

I don't accept this happened. It's bad logic to use the Bible to prove the Bible true. Why should I accept that book as fact?

 

[peteos]

Dark matter does not have to exist to bend Light when God can do that.

I think that pretty much sums up everything that has ever been posted on this forum. We can all go home now.

 

[Loudmouth]

Hmmm maybe Yahweh is made of dark matter???

Hmmmm maybe Santa Claus is made of dark energy?????

 

[gamespotter10]

Hmmmm maybe Santa Claus is made of dark energy?????

maybe UFOs are dark energy


so that thing that happened to me at camp last summer had to have been dark energy

 

[Carey]

I don't accept this happened. It's bad logic to use the Bible to prove the Bible true. Why should I accept that book as fact?

Why should you not accept the Bible as fact??

Why should you accept dark matter as fact??

They can neither be proven absolutely right??

 

[Patashu]

Why should you not accept the Bible as fact??

Why should you accept dark matter as fact??

They can neither be proven absolutely right??

I've seen more evidence for dark matter than for the bible, myself.

 

[Vene]

I've seen more evidence for dark matter than for the bible, myself.

My thoughts exactly. Dark matter can actually be shown to influence objects. Plus, it requires less commitment on my part so I'm not as invested in it's existence as that of a god.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Why should you not accept the Bible as fact??

Why should you accept dark matter as fact??

They can neither be proven absolutely right??

Neither can be proven, no. But as I said elsewhere, it is when we consider the evidence that probabilities emerge: the Bible has no supporting evidence (I challenge you to present some if you disagree), whilst dark evidence does have evidence.

 

[FishFace]

I dont know what happened.

In a nut shell science is proving science wrong yet again.

That's how it works, Carey. New evidence comes along, we change accordingly - you can't expect us to anticipate evidence that we've never even heard of, can you.

Proving what we think we know is not always right even though it has been belived to be fact for many years.

Dark matter hasn't been around for that long, and theories of gravity are pretty hotly contested at the moment, from what I gather.

It will always be that wwy when it appears to contradict the Bible.

Evidence? Dark matter has nothing to do with the Bible, remember.
Are we going to go back to geocentrism, soon? Are we going to discover that hares really do chew the cud? Remember it was Christian Geologists who falsified flood geology!

All you have given us is reason to treat everything in science as provisional and tentative. That's nothing new - evolution theory is as tentative as atomic theory. Perhaps they're both wrong, but it's not likely.