Clarification of 3rd Christian Principle of Foru.ms: Satanism/ Satanic symbols

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Alilsa.
You sound like you are suffering.
Peace.

 

[Time2BCounted]

I would like to know why Erwin is allowing someone here to say that sonnets to satan can be beautiful... Are these part of the new changes? If so i would suggest that these changes are both evil and wrong. This is an attack against Christ, and this influence should not be allowed to sway the weak and unlearned imho

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

It's an opinion and was clearly stated as one. As such it does not constitute "promotion" of anything, and it certainly does not constitute an "attack" on anyone. Your post is ridiculous.

 

[Jebediah]

I would like to know why Erwin is allowing someone here to say that sonnets to satan can be beautiful... Are these part of the new changes? If so i would suggest that these changes are both evil and wrong. This is an attack against Christ, and this influence should not be allowed to sway the weak and unlearned imho

That's right...we are attacking through iambic pentameter! Won't someone please think of the CHILDREN!!!???

 

[GreenMunchkin]

It's an opinion and was clearly stated as one. As such it does not constitute "promotion" of anything, and it certainly does not constitute an "attack" on anyone. Your post is ridiculous.

That's right...we are attacking through iambic pentameter! Won't someone please think of the CHILDREN!!!???

Enough, please.

 

[alilsa]

I was asking about stuff that was bordering on occultic but also in someways can be christian. I just wanted to know if talking about that stuff is allowable on the forums. I wasn't trying to derail the subject, just go along with the conversation. I'm sorry, I came out of some stuff that was bordering satanic stuff. Would there be a better thread to ask about hidden dark practices in the church on another thread?

 

[GreenMunchkin]

I was asking about stuff that was bordering on occultic but also in someways can be christian. I just wanted to know if talking about that stuff is allowable on the forums. I wasn't trying to derail the subject, just go along with the conversation. I'm sorry, I came out of some stuff that was bordering satanic stuff. Would there be a better thread to ask about hidden dark practices in the church on another thread?

Plenty, sweetie. Sending you a pm, ok?

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Enough, please.

I did not post anything objectionable. I shared an opinion, clearly marked as one, and I answered someone else's invective with calmness and civility. I fail to see what occasions being addressed this way.

 

[Jebediah]

Enough, please.

*grumble grumble*

As you wish.

, Greenie.

 

[GreenMunchkin]

*grumble grumble*

As you wish.

, Greenie.

Thank you

I did not post anything objectionable. I shared an opinion, clearly marked as one, and I answered someone else's invective with calmness and civility. I fail to see what occasions being addressed this way.

Sigh. Moriah, do we really all need to resort to being as legalistic as possible? Someone simply asked how it's suitable to read here that sonnets to Satan can be beautiful, and said it's an attack on Christianity. You know many Christians feel Satanism is an attack on Christianity. However, it's allowed in certain parts of the forum - wiki discussion isn't it. You know that. We need to start as we're going to go on and searching for loop-holes isn't the most auspicious of starts, love.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Thank you

Sigh. Moriah, do we really all need to resort to being as legalistic as possible? Someone simply asked how it's suitable to read here that sonnets to Satan can be beautiful, and said it's an attack on Christianity. You know many Christians feel Satanism is an attack on Christianity. However, it's allowed in certain parts of the forum - wiki discussion isn't it. You know that. We need to start as we're going to go on and searching for loop-holes isn't the most auspicious of starts, love.

I am not the one being "legalistic" here. Refer to the post you cite above if you want an example on that. My post did not (a) refer to Satanism at all; (b) promote Satanism (or anything for that matter); (c) attack either Christ, Christianity or anyone else. It is not "legalistic" to either refuse to accept erroneous judgments or to answer politely to false charges, both of which I have done. No one has been flamed and nothing has been "promoted". I am not the one searching for "loop-holes" here because I have no need of them. However I am beginning to wonder if people are not searching for (what's the opposite of a loophole -- a kink or knot in the fabric?) to be able to stick pins in.

I am answering in civil tone and being entirely calm, and the charges thrown in my face were the only "reactionary", "attacking" and "inflaming" thing here. Prior to that, Drstevej and I were having a nice little talk about Harry Potter -- disagreeing but keeping it civil -- and Alilsa was asking about the meaning of incantation. Any third party, with no prior knowledge of myself or the other participants here, and no preexisting eisegetical agenda, but with an objective view of things and not prone to being reactionary, ought to be able to see that.

 

[alilsa]

I don't know who to pm this to since I got cited by a robot, so I post it. I don't know why I got reported. That site has people argueing satanic stuff by people that are christian satanic worshippers. I ask about stuff that I picked up in pentecostal churches that borders on hidden secret practices and I get cited. I was just asking about if stuff should be asked. I was told that in christian ritual abuse churches stuff that borders on incantations and mind control and cutting for atonement. Where was I suppose to talk about this? in the pentecostal threads? or self injury thread?
So now I leave before getting kicked off.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Alilsa, unfortunately there are some who just have a great deal of difficulty separating their personal perceptions, desires, and childish need to try to control and dominate everyone else's experience out from actual rules on this board. I'm sorry you got reported. It happens to me all the time. Usually the mod staff is fair, though, and tries to judge things objectively. By following the link provided in the ChrisBot PM you can track the report and add your own input if you like.

 

[Mickey1953]

So a christian does something like an incantation when they recite a formula prayer hoping for magical results or if cited just right God (god) will hear them but if said wrong, they didn't have enough faith. Like a prayer for healing or prosperity, quote 5 verses 5 times a day because they think that the laws of prosperity, God has to answer because they are little gods. But how about the christian practice of cutting to atone for your sins when grace isn't enough? Some say christians can be demon possesed I guess if there are christian satanic worshippers anything is possible. Most of the child molesters that abused me were christians (one was a preacher). And family members are christian drug dealers at times.

Dear Alilsa,
God heard me when I was not His. God heard.
My words were simple words.

Incantations - they are human words, no disrespect meant.
Faith as small as a mustard seed...and even when that was not present in my life- God still answered. Was it the people that were praying over me? Was it that God knew beyond the actions of sin and knew the anguish, the prisons we experience in life because of others selfish actions & choices?

That God is who He says He is? That He loved me before I first loved Him? I believe this with all of my life.

I am not the wisest concerning my Christian faith. But, I keep it simple...Whatever words I say I believe through the Holy Spirit - they are words that become the right words.
I read scripture and pray it over my children, friends, & persons who have been hurtful. I also fumble with scripture and words etc. but my God is bigger then all of that...

Christian people that hurt? There are no easy words, and I am sorry for the pain that you too have experienced....
Christian people will face God. And will tremble...

You are not alone in your suffering... and the why - I replaced it with name of Jesus, forgiveness, and compassion, as strange as that may sound. I had to get on with living life....

http://www.crossroads.ca/response/incest.htm

Incest &
Sexual Abuse

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]“He heals the brokenhearted and binds up their wounds” (Psalm 147:3)[/FONT]

“Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted. Bear one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ”(Galatians 6:1,2).

I have more I would like to share over demon possession, but it is something I need to ponder on...and speak as wisely as a Mickey can speak.... it is hard to do, but I feel it is becoming necessary with all the posts concerning this. And to share the hope within the turmoil...
Maybe another post...over the weekend...

 

[GreenMunchkin]

I am not the one being "legalistic" here. Refer to the post you cite above if you want an example on that. My post did not (a) refer to Satanism at all; (b) promote Satanism (or anything for that matter); (c) attack either Christ, Christianity or anyone else. It is not "legalistic" to either refuse to accept erroneous judgments or to answer politely to false charges, both of which I have done. No one has been flamed and nothing has been "promoted". I am not the one searching for "loop-holes" here because I have no need of them. However I am beginning to wonder if people are not searching for (what's the opposite of a loophole -- a kink or knot in the fabric?) to be able to stick pins in.

I am answering in civil tone and being entirely calm, and the charges thrown in my face were the only "reactionary", "attacking" and "inflaming" thing here. Prior to that, Drstevej and I were having a nice little talk about Harry Potter -- disagreeing but keeping it civil -- and Alilsa was asking about the meaning of incantation. Any third party, with no prior knowledge of myself or the other participants here, and no preexisting eisegetical agenda, but with an objective view of things and not prone to being reactionary, ought to be able to see that.

We're simply approaching it from different angles, which is fine. Time voiced his thoughts, and was told his post was ridiculous. It wasn't ridiculous and was, in fact, a valid question. It's a shame you feel I'm being reactionary, but there's very little can be done about that.

God bless you, duck.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Hey Mickey, there is a Spiritual Warfare section on the board as well as a Deliverance Ministry and Deliverance Theology section. Have you checked those out yet? It's generally where discussion about demon possession and stuff like that takes place.

It's a fiesty bunch that bickers a lot, but some good stuff happens there too.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Time voiced his thoughts, and was told his post was ridiculous. It wasn't ridiculous and was, in fact, a valid question.

I have been counseled repeatedly by Staff to "address the post, not the person" to avoid flaming -- and when I do so, you treat it as if I have done something wrong instead of something right. What am I to conclude? His charges were ridiculous and did not represent fact or reality. What am I to say to that? There are a zillion words I could have used -- false, erroneous, ludicrous -- would any of these ever be acceptable to someone who agrees with those false charges? Probably not. The initial question raised might have been valid but by attaching it to erroneous judgments he revealed it as stemming from them, hence invalidating it all on his own.

 

[GreenMunchkin]

I have been counseled repeatedly by Staff to "address the post, not the person" to avoid flaming -- and when I do so, you treat it as if I have done something wrong instead of something right. What am I to conclude? His charges were ridiculous and did not represent fact or reality. What am I to say to that? There are a zillion words I could have used -- false, erroneous, ludicrous -- would any of these ever be acceptable to someone who agrees with those false charges? Probably not. The initial question raised might have been valid but by attaching it to erroneous judgments he revealed it as stemming from them, hence invalidating it all on his own.

Sweetie, truly, did you not think people may take exception to what you said? Realistically.

 

[Mickey1953]

Hey Mickey, there is a Spiritual Warfare section on the board as well as a Deliverance Ministry and Deliverance Theology section. Have you checked those out yet? It's generally where discussion about demon possession and stuff like that takes place.

It's a fiesty bunch that bickers a lot, but some good stuff happens there too.

Thank you and I did not know.....I will check it out... I will be out in the woods camping where there is not any connections to the internet....so probably Monday....

& to you too!

 

[drstevej]

Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name...

But whats puzzling you
Is the nature of my game

Good thread title.